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Old 02-15-2014, 03:06 PM   #1
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Question $3000, a lift, and 35's? Possible?

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Today i come to you, to ask that if you had a 2013 jk sport (manual), all stock, and 3000 dollars, is it possible to lift it and run 35's all within budget? If so, how would you go about it, what do I need to keep in mind? I have been looking at lift kits, rims, and wheels for so long that i feel like my head is going to explode.It will primarily be a daily driver with a few weekend trips, here and there. Love the looks of 35's but from what I understand its practically impossible without regearing and that knocks me out of budget. All your input would be greatly appreciated, thank you again!

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It would be hard to do. Rims and tires will cost you the most. But if you have patients you could prolly get used rims and tires or use the factory rims with spacers. And a budget lift kit. As for driving with a manual and that size tires it can be done 6 gear is useless. I have 4dr teraflex 2.5 lift on my 2012 2dr with 35's / manual tranny with the stock 3.21 gears. While it's not ideal I can deal with it I was going to regear but now I have a willys unlimited on order so no regear.

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If you've got 3.21's (Stock JK Sport - if you didn't upgrade when you bought it I'm assuming that's what you've got) you'll probably not enjoy it.

More info in this thread

I've got 3.21's because I didn't know any better. I'm going to get 33s and call it a day.
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If you're planning on doing all the work yourself, then I'd say $3000 is a realistic number on the low end. Otherwise you're going to have to add $500-800 just for the lift install and that's going to be tough especially with 35s...

I'm assuming you want 5 tires/wheels. If that's the case are you considering the extra weight added to the tailgate? The OEM mount isn't designed for that much weight. Now you're talking about a rear bumper and that's going to push you out of budget.

I got a 34 in tire which was a little cheaper, little lighter, and I can't tell the difference. I also got the Terraflex hinge (i think it was $500) which replaces hinges on the tailgate and reinforces the door in order to support the weight. That's cheaper than a rear bumper and spare tire mount.

I have a manual and and unlimited and I did not re gear...It's still quick.
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It would be hard to do. Rims and tires will cost you the most. But if you have patients you could prolly get used rims and tires or use the factory rims with spacers. And a budget lift kit. As for driving with a manual and that size tires it can be done 6 gear is useless. I have 4dr teraflex 2.5 lift on my 2012 2dr with 35's / manual tranny with the stock 3.21 gears. While it's not ideal I can deal with it I was going to regear but now I have a willys unlimited on order so no regear.
Thanks for the reply I've definitely been looking everywhere for a good deal on wheels and lift, no dice so far. Hopefully a deal will pop up soon.
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If you've got 3.21's (Stock JK Sport - if you didn't upgrade when you bought it I'm assuming that's what you've got) you'll probably not enjoy it.

More info in this thread

I've got 3.21's because I didn't know any better. I'm going to get 33s and call it a day.
Thanks for the advice, just checked out that thread lots of great info, 33's are definitely a option.
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If you're planning on doing all the work yourself, then I'd say $3000 is a realistic number on the low end. Otherwise you're going to have to add $500-800 just for the lift install and that's going to be tough especially with 35s...
Thats good news to hear, I do plan on doing most the work myself, I have access shop and all the neccessary tools, as well as a good buddy who is a mechanic. He said he would help me with the build I just have to get the material for the project. Ive heard of the tailgate hinge i was looking into those yesterday. Is you jeep geared in 3.21 as well?
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I just got some 33 Dura tires a month ago and that cost me $1300 just 4 . It will b tight to get all you want and keep under 3 grand.
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I just got some 33 Dura tires a month ago and that cost me $1300 just 4 . It will b tight to get all you want and keep under 3 grand.
Yeah I'm starting to see a trend with the responses. I may have to keep saving money for awhile it seems...
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4 x steel rims with tpms sensors and 35's will set ya back around $2200-2400
I suppose you could just get a cheap spacer lift and do the work yourself but a proper lift will put you over budget

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Discout tire direct will be your best friend. You can get 5 17" wheels (xd or black rhino) and 5 35" fierce tires shipped for a little over $1900. That gives you a grand left to get a lift and a week of shipping to read up on how to install yourself.

edit: The total from dtd would be $2070 shipped. Thats if you remove all the extras they add except the install kit. Still leaving you with $900 for a decent lift!
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The way you do it is run $400 worth of spacers and have 35's mounted to your stock rims. Could even go with Duratracs in 315/70-17 for around $300 a tire and now you are at $1900-1950. Now go with Rancho 3" sport lift RS66106B for $560. Lets see..... we are at $2510, right. $490 left for 4 shocks. Rancho shocks are $70-$100 a shock depending on model. Rancho RS9000XL RS999329 and RS999330 which puts you right at $350.

You have $150 to have the tires mounted to the stock rims.

Now you can save up for regear down the road but would not stop you from upgrading wheels and tires early.

By the way the price quotes were simply what you can find on Discount tire direct and Amazon. All free shipping.

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Just remember this adage: cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap. A good set of wheels and 35s are going to be 2000-2500 (for 5.) A simple rubicon lift is around $750. Tailgate tire holder.... $125. Then the little things will get you....tpms, possibly different lugnuts. Do you want to upgrade your steering stabilizer? In my humblest of humble opinions....to do it right....with quality pieces....doing the work yourself..... $4000.
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The way you do it is run $400 worth of spacers and have 35's mounted to your stock rims. Could even go with Duratracs in 315/70-17 for around $300 a tire and now you are at $1900-1950. Now go with Rancho 3" sport lift RS66106B for $560. Lets see..... we are at $2510, right. $490 left for 4 shocks. Rancho shocks are $70-$100 a shock depending on model. Rancho RS9000XL RS999329 and RS999330 which puts you right at $350.

You have $150 to have the tires mounted to the stock rims.

Now you can save up for regear down the road but would not stop you from upgrading wheels and tires early.

By the way the price quotes were simply what you can find on Discount tire direct and Amazon. All free shipping.

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Nice! You have given me a ray of hope, this seems like a pretty viable option. Awesome suggestion, I'm going to do a little research into a that Rancho lift right now.
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Just remember this adage: cheap ain't good and good ain't cheap. A good set of wheels and 35s are going to be 2000-2500 (for 5.) A simple rubicon lift is around $750. Tailgate tire holder.... $125. Then the little things will get you....tpms, possibly different lugnuts. Do you want to upgrade your steering stabilizer? In my humblest of humble opinions....to do it right....with quality pieces....doing the work yourself..... $4000.

I was reading about steering stabilizers 3 days ago, i was unsure of wether they were a necessity when upgrading to 35's. The plan is to install top grade parts only once, I guess Im just getting a little impatient and I need to accumulate a bit more currency before I decide to dive into the 35s. Thank you for your time.
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Pretty sure I came in just under $3000. List of what I installed: RK 2.5SM, Bilstein 5100's, RK bump stops, Synergy 1.75" spacers, MBRP tailgate reinforcement kit, ?? Third brake light extension, ?? Spare tire extension, and 35" Toyo MT's.
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I was reading about steering stabilizers 3 days ago, i was unsure of wether they were a necessity when upgrading to 35's. The plan is to install top grade parts only once, I guess Im just getting a little impatient and I need to accumulate a bit more currency before I decide to dive into the 35s. Thank you for your time.
Besides that is not taking into account any discounts you can find, that was basic "listed on the internet pricing." You should be able to do a little better then that by calling an supporting vendor.

Granted you should probably pay attention to the tailgate but with duratracs being on the lighter smaller side for a "35" and you don't plan on going crazy you should be fine until funds replenish. You could save even more by going with 4 tires now and in 5-6000 miles when it's time to rotate spring for the 5th tire mounted so you can roll that into a 5 tire rotation. Who cares if you run 3 months without a spare. Discount tire hazard protection which you should buy with the money you save by calling a vendor and getting a small break on price from other items. It's a gamble but you'll save $350 in the short run.

it's not about doing it "on the cheap" as no part I quoted is junk. Rancho sport lift is very respectable and you can add the geometry correction brackets down the road. Spidertrax spacers are $99 a pair and are pretty much the standard by which other spacers are judged. RS9000XL are a superb set of shocks with adjustability for driving preference and terrain. Duratracs have about the largest following as any other "mixed format" upsized tire in the whole Jeep world.

Had I said... go get some retreads, mount em yourself with lighter fluid and a match, buy the cheapest spacers you can find, get a spacer lift, and get an eBay special bumper/tire carrier that will rust in 6 months.... that would be doing it on the cheap however that would work with money to spare.
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I was reading about steering stabilizers 3 days ago, i was unsure of wether they were a necessity when upgrading to 35's. The plan is to install top grade parts only once, I guess Im just getting a little impatient and I need to accumulate a bit more currency before I decide to dive into the 35s. Thank you for your time.
steering stabilizer is 100% unnecessary
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I just did a 2" BB lift and 285/75/R16 Goodyear Duratracs and MB Chaos 5 wheels for right at $2000. I went 33's and even though my 07 JKU came with 4.10's, I still notice a difference. At least on hills. I personally wouldn't go 35's unless I was regearing. But that's just my personal preference. I also have the 3.8L so I'm sure that makes a difference too. Here's a link to my lift thread.

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I installed AEV2.5 dual sport with geo correction bracket ($1100) and five 315/70r17 Duratrac's ($1500) total of $2600. If you can find a rim set for under $500, then you are golden. Looks possible.
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I just did a 2" BB lift and 285/75/R16 Goodyear Duratracs and MB Chaos 5 wheels for right at $2000. I went 33's and even though my 07 JKU came with 4.10's, I still notice a difference. At least on hills. I personally wouldn't go 35's unless I was regearing. But that's just my personal preference. I also have the 3.8L so I'm sure that makes a difference too. Here's a link to my lift thread.

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BIG difference with the 3.8L. Smaller lighter JK with the 3.6, while it won't be a rocket off the line, it will do just fine until and if the OP wants to regear. $3000 to upgrade wheels/tires/2.5-3" lift is completely attainable. Now if your plans are to make a show piece/monster and don't want to upgrade in steps then you can barely get beadlocks for the $2500-$3000. A top of the line build it won't be but for a DD will be just right.
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Doctor, JoeRaj, Shawn, and X50 thank you for your input! This is great stuff!
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Take a look at these parts. 4 Pro Comp 7031 17x9 (Quadratec) - 150 ea - $600. Rusty Off Road 3.25 Advance Lift $1500. 4 Nitto Terra Grapplers LT295 17R (not sure they equal to 35s, just an example - Discount Tire) - 250 ea - $1000. Total $3100.

I know lot of people on here will bash Rustys kits, but I ran mine for over a year and about 15,000 miles with no issues. I then traded the Jeep in. It was the most complete kit I could find. All bolt in. Check them out and make your decision.

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Doctor, JoeRaj, Shawn, and X50 thank you for your input! This is great stuff!
Any time, the only other thing I installed was rear brake line drop brackets. I made them myself instead of buying some. Good Luck
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Discount tire, 5 15x8 Cragar soft 8, 5 35x12.5x15 = $1455
Spidertrax wheel spacers 200, so $1755 leaving you 1250 for a lift.knock off $250 for only 4 wheels/tires
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You could go cheaper on the tires and plan on replacing them in a couple years. You could keep and powder coat, plastidip or paint your factory wheels.
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Right at $2600 total. I did all the labor except mounting the tires.

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steering stabilizer is 100% unnecessary

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Every shop I got quotes to do my lift install didnt recommend buying one, they could of easily tried to sell me, but they all flat out said no.

I smashed my stock one and have a rancho 5000 now and I couldnt tell any difference between the two.
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$1600-$1700 for 5 Goodyear or Nitto 35" tires
$200- Spidertrax wheel spacers
$500- rough country 3.5" lift
$30- Exhaust spacer
$109- Rough Country adjustable track bar (personal preference but this will keep you from having to instal the drop pitman arm and track bar bracket from the lift kit.
$130- Smittybilt oversized tire carrier

That totals just under $2700

By the way this is the budget option, not the best lift money can buy. I have everything mentioned and wheel the crap out of it with no issues for over a year.
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Thank you everyone, this is more than I could ask for. I felt like all was lost, but with all this great intel I will surely be able to achieve my goal of 35's. You guys are awesome, much thanks again.

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