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Old 10-23-2011, 12:59 PM   #1
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33" vs 35" on a 2012 JKU Rubicon???

first off, thank you ladies and gents for all the help from this forum. i have been regulary following this forum for well over a year now, and it has been great!

i am planning on ordering my first jeep in the coming weeks (2012 JKU Rubicon). can't wait! currently, we have two rovers, an '03 Disco and '05 LR3. both are lifted with 32" tires and some other fun bits, and they are both used 1-2 times a month to go wheeling.

now with the jeep, i am wanting to get a few ducks in a row before i get it. here are the questions i have thus far. any help would be much appreciated!

1. i'll likely put on a 2.5" teraflex lift right away. is it worth it to get the new teraflex springs and shocks or are the rubicon's decent enough that i should just get a budget boost?

2. i can't decide on 33" or 35" tires. i don't plan on regearing anytime soon and don't want to mess with drive shafts for a while. is the extra HP and 4.10 gears in the 2012 Rubicon enough to somewhat offset the negatives of the 35" tires? i really don't want to get 33s and regret not getting 35s. the jeep will be a daily driver and a go to off roader for moderate trails.

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You will be perfecto with 35's and 4.10's

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The 4.10 gears are perfect for 35 inch tires, I turn 3,500 rpms at 70mph in fifth gear with the auto trans. I have a 2.5" budget boost that I installed while trying to decide what lift kit to use. I'm so happy with the stock shocks and 2.5 inch spacers that I can't talk myself into changing. I have had it to Moab once and Colorado twice, there is absolutely no rubbing with 35" KM2s mounted on AEV Pintlers. The AEV wheels have the perfect amount of back space which helps alot.
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exactly what i wanted to hear! thanks fellas! 35"s it is.

yeah, i figured i would start with a cheap lift at this point and then see if i wanted to work my way up to a more expensive setup dpwm the road.

coming from the "rover world" there are so many limitations, especially with the LR3 and its independent air suspension. i really can't wait for the jeep!

here's a recent pic of the LR3 in moab.

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If your going with 35" check out the BF Goodrich Allterrain LT 325 65R18, that is what I have on my 2011 4dr wrangler, I had to add a 3" lift. be warry about the rear wheel well, you will see in front of the tire, an edge from the body, I am going to cut mine off (a ok from the service dept) Also I have been concerned about these larger tires, I have 3.73 gears now, I think I will go with 4,10 also, seems if I am driving up a slight grade with cruise control on, the jeep will down shift, I think with 4.10, this will not be a problem anymore

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Old 10-23-2011, 01:23 PM   #7
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you might like this one a bit better! this was when i got the jeep fever.

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If you're driving a 2011 JKU/35"tires/auto--


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If your going with 35" check out the BF Goodrich Allterrain LT 325 65R18, that is what I have on my 2011 4dr wrangler, I had to add a 3" lift. be warry about the rear wheel well, you will see in front of the tire, an edge from the body, I am going to cut mine off (a ok from the service dept) Also I have been concerned about these larger tires, I have 3.73 gears now, I think I will go with 4,10 also, seems if I am driving up a slight grade with cruise control on, the jeep will down shift, I think with 4.10, this will not be a problem anymore

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Don't waste money putting 4.10 gears init--they're OK with the 3.6L, but not with the 3.8L-

You' need AT LEAST, 4.88 and probably 5.13 gears--YUKON !

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Thumbs up thought I post a pic of my wrangler with 35's

here's a link to my wrangler with 35's

http://www.baizefamily.com/jeeppg02.htm
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don't ask why the link says "Painting Interior .........."
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looks great! really like the truck. btw...what kind of rear bumper do you have? does the tailgate and the rear swing away work together like the AEV or does it take two "efforts"?
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I'm torn, but probably 90% getting Duratrac 285/70/17 @33", I'm worried about big 35" tire envy, but 33"er have lots of advantages, very few downsides
Come on 35" folks defend your choice, something besides looks
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If your going with 35" check out the BF Goodrich Allterrain LT 325 65R18, that is what I have on my 2011 4dr wrangler, I had to add a 3" lift. be warry about the rear wheel well, you will see in front of the tire, an edge from the body, I am going to cut mine off (a ok from the service dept) Also I have been concerned about these larger tires, I have 3.73 gears now, I think I will go with 4,10 also, seems if I am driving up a slight grade with cruise control on, the jeep will down shift, I think with 4.10, this will not be a problem anymore

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I'll agree, with the 2011 model you want 4.88s with the auto trans and 35 inch tires. The old trans is a completely different animal from the new 5 speed auto.
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looks great! really like the truck. btw...what kind of rear bumper do you have? does the tailgate and the rear swing away work together like the AEV or does it take two "efforts"?

My bumpers are Rugged Ridge, it does take 2 efforts to open, back, but thats Ok with me

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I'm torn, but probably 90% getting Duratrac 285/70/17 @33", I'm worried about big 35" tire envy, but 33"er have lots of advantages, very few downsides
Come on 35" folks defend your choice, something besides looks

Looks , sure, looks great, but in reality, just looking for more clearance and a wider tire for traction.

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If you're driving a 2011 jku/35"tires/auto--

don't waste money putting 4.10 gears init--they're ok with the 3.6l, but not with the 3.8l-

you' need at least, 4.88 and probably 5.13 gears--yukon !

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Funny, just looking for wheels, I see that most folks who change wheels go for 35"ers, so I'm thinking why go from 32"ers to 33"ers and still have big tire envy, got to say that 33"ers looks a little small on even a modestly lifted rig, still thinking
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Funny, just looking for wheels, I see that most folks who change wheels go for 35"ers, so I'm thinking why go from 32"ers to 33"ers and still have big tire envy, got to say that 33"ers looks a little small on even a modestly lifted rig, still thinking
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do you have any pics of your rig? i think i'll be getting the same bright
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Funny, just looking for wheels, I see that most folks who change wheels go for 35"ers, so I'm thinking why go from 32"ers to 33"ers and still have big tire envy, got to say that 33"ers looks a little small on even a modestly lifted rig, still thinking
If you think that these 33" tires look too small--then you NEED 35s and all whatever is gained by them-



It's your jeep, so if you're ready for the 35" tires go forit--

I have no reason for them, I've found a "sweet" combo and I'm sticking withit-

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do you have any pics of your rig? i think i'll be getting the same bright
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If you think that these 33" tires look too small--then you NEED 35s and all whatever is gained by them-



It's your jeep, so if you're ready for the 35" tires go forit--

I have no reason for them, I've found a "sweet" combo and I'm sticking withit-

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two great looking trucks. i am a big fan of white. this is my wife's disco.

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Thanx, we have different vehicles--


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"Need" doesn't really figure in, love the way your rig looks, by the way
More than the color, yours has the 3.6L v6 and you can "manage" 35" tires with your 4.10 gears, now I'm not sure that that is totally acceptable, but some guys think so--

It would take some driving in the mountains West of you to see if the 4.10s were OK with 35s, I honestly don't have a clue, as to the power of the 3.6l/5spd auto--

Besides that--the 35's have different clearance problems/axle problems/brake problems and certain lift/bumpstop requirements--

It's never simple, my friend--

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first off, thank you ladies and gents for all the help from this forum. i have been regulary following this forum for well over a year now, and it has been great!

i am planning on ordering my first jeep in the coming weeks (2012 JKU Rubicon). can't wait! currently, we have two rovers, an '03 Disco and '05 LR3. both are lifted with 32" tires and some other fun bits, and they are both used 1-2 times a month to go wheeling.

now with the jeep, i am wanting to get a few ducks in a row before i get it. here are the questions i have thus far. any help would be much appreciated!

1. i'll likely put on a 2.5" teraflex lift right away. is it worth it to get the new teraflex springs and shocks or are the rubicon's decent enough that i should just get a budget boost?

2. i can't decide on 33" or 35" tires. i don't plan on regearing anytime soon and don't want to mess with drive shafts for a while. is the extra HP and 4.10 gears in the 2012 Rubicon enough to somewhat offset the negatives of the 35" tires? i really don't want to get 33s and regret not getting 35s. the jeep will be a daily driver and a go to off roader for moderate trails.

thanks in advance!!!

If you are going do to a lift do it right the first time. Don't do a BB just to replace it all later on. If you don't have the money up front just save up and do it right. It will be cheaper and ride better in the long run.

With that being said look at a Currie lift with there springs, control arms with jj's, steering, and track bars. A currie JJ will allow better flex that a stock control arm with rubber bushings. The rubber bushings will bind slightly as they move. The stock Rubbi shocks are good for a small lift to where they won't limit your travel but I'm not a 100 percent sure how many inches that is.
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If you are going do to a lift do it right the first time. Don't do a BB just to replace it all later on. If you don't have the money up front just save up and do it right. It will be cheaper and ride better in the long run.

With that being said look at a Currie lift with there springs, control arms with jj's, steering, and track bars. A currie JJ will allow better flex that a stock control arm with rubber bushings. The rubber bushings will bind slightly as they move. The stock Rubbi shocks are good for a small lift to where they won't limit your travel but I'm not a 100 percent sure how many inches that is.

i really would like to do it right the first time, and i am not opposed to dropping more cash up front. i am just not sure how much i should reasonably spend on a 2.5"-3" lift for mild-moderate wheeling/overlanding. that's why i thought i'd start with a budget boost and see how it goes from there.

also, i know i want to go up to a 33" or 35" tire, so i figured i'd put lift/new tires on it when i purchase the jeep that way i can sell the factory tires right away.
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Question A concern about 35's and the JK wrangler

A concern I have about 35's is how close the body edge comes to the tire in the rear wheel well. here's the link, its the second pic

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Thumbs up Ha my solution for no longer needed factory tires

also, i know i want to go up to a 33" or 35" tire, so i figured i'd put lift/new tires on it when i purchase the jeep that way i can sell the factory tires right away.[/QUOTE]


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also, i know i want to go up to a 33" or 35" tire, so i figured i'd put lift/new tires on it when i purchase the jeep that way i can sell the factory tires right away.
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i really would like to do it right the first time, and i am not opposed to dropping more cash up front. i am just not sure how much i should reasonably spend on a 2.5"-3" lift for mild-moderate wheeling/overlanding. that's why i thought i'd start with a budget boost and see how it goes from there.

also, i know i want to go up to a 33" or 35" tire, so i figured i'd put lift/new tires on it when i purchase the jeep that way i can sell the factory tires right away.
When it comes to suspension lifts that saying of what you pay for is what you get is true. The big names like Currie, Fox, King, and so are are expensive but that is because of the quality of part that you are getting. It will out preform others without doubt .

Go with 35's but do it right. Overbuilt and over prepared will never hurt you on overland trips. When you are out there you don't won't a failure.

Don't foget about recovery gear. Go synthetic over steel winch cables.

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