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Old 05-02-2012, 07:43 PM   #1
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33's on stock carrier

I am putting 33's on my JK. I don't have to do anything to my spare tire carrier, right? Everything I have read is if I go up to 35's

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I am putting 33's on my JK. I don't have to do anything to my spare tire carrier, right? Everything I have read is if I go up to 35's
Just put 33's on mine today. Fits perfectly on the stock carrier. The only thing that worries me is the weight!

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Old 05-02-2012, 08:48 PM   #3
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Since the stock rubber bump stops will no longer reach, you should get some Daystar bump stop replacements. Probably the least expensive mod you will ever get!

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I am about to put my 33's on and I also bought the Daystar bump stops. Other than that, everything should be cool. Has anyone experienced an issue with weight?
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I am pretty sure I have seen on a couple of threads that the 32 stock rubicon tires weigh just about the same, or maybe more, than a 33 inch tire on 15x8. As long as you have the bumpstops installed correctly so that the tire cannot move, you should be good. the tire will put extra stress on the carrier if it is bouncing and all unsecured.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:36 AM   #7
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Just put 33's on mine today. Fits perfectly on the stock carrier. The only thing that worries me is the weight!

How much more weight? My 33"s weigh 6.5 lbs more than the stock rubi tire/wheel combo. Stops work so I figure there has to be some margin of allowance engineered in.
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How much more weight? My 33"s weigh 6.5 lbs more than the stock rubi tire/wheel combo. Stops work so I figure there has to be some margin of allowance engineered in.
The JK tail gate can handle more weight than earlier models.

it's not so much the weight. It's the bouncing around if not supported extended Bumpstops.

The spot welds will eventually pop if enough stress is put on them.

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My new wheel / tire combo is about 6lbs heavier and with the daystar stops seems very solid no issues
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:35 PM   #10
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Since the stock rubber bump stops will no longer reach, you should get some Daystar bump stop replacements. Probably the least expensive mod you will ever get!

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Can u explain to me what this is for? My 33's don't reach the original bump stop. Does it matter if there is a gap???
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Can u explain to me what this is for? My 33's don't reach the original bump stop. Does it matter if there is a gap???
They are for exactly that -- so there is no gap. The purpose of them is to make sure they fit snugly with the spare to stop vibration and/or movement. If there is nothing holding the spare in place, then they could eventually break the factory tire carrier from bouncing on or off road.

You should definitely buy a pair. I have seen some that make their own from hockey pucks, but being that these are so inexpensive, why bother.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:52 PM   #12
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I got the Daystar bump stops. How do you get them to stay in the hole while putting tire on? I put mine on and the whole in the tailgate is larger then the plug on the stops. They are all the way in but when I lift the tire and if I hit them just a little the fall out. I got them on after 3 tries.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:55 PM   #13
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I got the Daystar bump stops. How do you get them to stay in the hole while putting tire on? I put mine on and the whole in the tailgate is larger then the plug on the stops. They are all the way in but when I lift the tire and if I hit them just a little the fall out. I got them on after 3 tries.
I had to put the spare on and lightly tighten the lugs. Once on, then put the bump stops on and then tighten down the lugs.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:59 PM   #14
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I guess the new jeeps have bigger holes in the tailgate-



Mine took pressure to "POP" them in and they are "solid"-

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^^^I guess so because the bump stops screw/plug is much smalled than the hole. Once installed, they don't move.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:22 PM   #16
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NOPE on mine, the hole in the tailgate is 1/2" and the rubber "Bumperstop" tapered plug is a 3/4" dia plug-on 1/2" dia shaft-pressure fit-


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Bump stop adjustment for 33s... That's it.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #19
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They are for exactly that -- so there is no gap. The purpose of them is to make sure they fit snugly with the spare to stop vibration and/or movement. If there is nothing holding the spare in place, then they could eventually break the factory tire carrier from bouncing on or off road.

You should definitely buy a pair. I have seen some that make their own from hockey pucks, but being that these are so inexpensive, why bother.
OK, thanks for the explanation. I will pick one up. I didn't consider the vibration issue.
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:33 AM   #20
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I don't think it's wise to approach the issue as "33s will be fine, 35s won't."

That might be a good rule of thumb, but it ignores the factors that actually affect the tailgate and tire carrier. How much does the stock set up weigh? How much does my new set up weigh? How much farther out does my new set up sit? Have I at least replaced the bumpstops to prevent any additional vibration?

To me, those questions seem more relevant than "What's the diameter of the tire?"

If you were to search the panoply of tires and wheels available, I'd expect you could find some heavy 33s that sit farther out on a heavier wheel that would do more harm to the stock tailgate set up than lightweight 35s on alloy wheels with relatively low backspacing.

You should figure out what the weight difference is with your new set up and be cognizant of how much farther out it sits. That should go a long way toward assessing--realistically and as a matter of common sense--just how much extra stress you're putting on your tailgate.

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usually aftermarket tires are wider than stock so the bumpstops should be even tighter, i put 285/75/16s on my and it all fit perfectly on the stock carrier, just barely cleared top, and 1/4" space on bottom, 35's would need new carrier for sure!

duractracs on mb tkos 16x8.5

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usually aftermarket tires are wider than stock so the bumpstops should be even tighter, i put 285/75/16s on my and it all fit perfectly on the stock carrier, just barely cleared top, and 1/4" space on bottom, 35's would need new carrier for sure!

duractracs on mb tkos 16x8.5

That's true with the stock wheels. With aftermarket wheels, the backspacing is generally much lower and even a wider tire will sit significantly farther out.
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Can u explain to me what this is for? My 33's don't reach the original bump stop. Does it matter if there is a gap???
Get the bumpstops....they make a world of difference. Just trim them to size, and your good to go. $15 it's a no brainer.
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Lagzalot, what kind of tires and what size?
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Im running thirty fives on mine with the spacer and support brackets no problems weight wise for me. Got the support brackets from quadratec part #222.1001. Do recommend the daystar bumpstops tho.
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part number dont work

part number dont work tryed it give me a link as to what you did for 35" s dude
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Right if you ate worried about the extra weight it will work for your 33 of it worked for my 35s
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Mine fits fine. Bumpstops too.



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Lagzalot, what kind of tires and what size?
285/75/16 duratracs rim is 4.5 back spacing Mb
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I am putting 33's on my JK. I don't have to do anything to my spare tire carrier, right? Everything I have read is if I go up to 35's
Well after getting my new Duratracs & wheels and lifting the spare a few times, I realized that from an Enginering standpoint, "I" would be better off gettting a new r-bumper w/tire swing

I did, got one made in the US and am very happy with the cost & purchase.

In the Mtn's my tail-gate would have taken a real beating with all that weight on it, especially at the hinges

Folks in this regard it's pay me now or pay me later!

A number of other Engineers have agreed with me: with tires over 32", and using the Jeep off-road the ONLY safe way to handle the weight of wheel/tire, is to go with a bumper w/tire swing

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