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Old 02-17-2012, 03:03 PM   #1
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33X12.50 Duratracs on 15X8 Level 8 Trackers - Finally Installed

Well, after getting the polished silver wheels by mistake last week, Discount Tire finally hooked me up with the black ones I had been looking for.

This is the stock suspension. DT just removed my stock 17" alloys and tires and replaced them with these. There is no lift, leveling kit, or spacers installed.

I believe the specs on the wheels are: 3.32" backspacing/-30 offset. They definitely peek out from the fenders! It is exactly the look I wanted.

The stock lugs and the wheel locks from my dealer would not work on these wheels, so DT put on new lugs and new locks for me. Also, I went ahead and bought the replacement Daystar bump stops for the tailgate before I went to DT. They installed them for me no problem.

I did have them move my TPMS sensors over to these wheels, but I had them air the tires down to 30PSI, so I'm getting the TPMS warning on the dash. I haven't decided if I'm getting the AEV Procal to disable it, so I will live with it for now.

Many thanks to all of you on the forum, because I went to school on you guys. I would like to single out ESP - whose thread on his tires and wheels started me down this path. Thanks again!
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Looking really good, I love the look of the black wheel with the black tires, no white lettering to look funny.

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I really like the look of that set up, I was planing on going with the same rims but with 32's I like the fit of the 33's. That is a stock suspension correct? no leveling kit are anything?
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I almost went with these wheels myself, and have been waiting to see them in a 15" size with these tires on them. Looks good!
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Some more pics for you guys. I took pics from directly above the fenders with the stock wheels on - and with the Level 8's installed. I've also included a pic of the Daystar bump stops.
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I really like the look of that set up, I was planing on going with the same rims but with 32's I like the fit of the 33's. That is a stock suspension correct? no leveling kit are anything?
Yes. The suspension is stock in these pics - not even a leveling kit.
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By the way, I just measured front and back tires with a tape measure. The tires protrude from all fenders by the same amount - 2.75". Sorry for the constant posts, but I keep thinking of things I forgot.
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Dang that looks really good, good work.
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Hot damn those look hot. Okay, I hope it's not rude to ask, but what did this set up cost you? It is damn close to what I am deciding on. I had MT/R s on my mind, but wow the duratracs are right there...... Thanks.
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Many thanks to all of you on the forum, because I went to school on you guys. I would like to single out ESP - whose thread on his tires and wheels started me down this path. Thanks again!


Time to lift that bad boy!
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Can you please provide the actual tire size, like 295/70/15 or whatever? Also, what MB is that, because I see a million different options on the website for that wheel (15.8X a lot of random numbers!) LOL

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Can you please provide the actual tire size, like 295/70/15 or whatever? Also, what MB is that, because I see a million different options on the website for that wheel (15.8X a lot of random numbers!) LOL

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33x12.5R15 is the tire size. He does not have them mounted on MB wheels.
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33/12.5/15 is an actual tire size, just float size or standard size, in metric it works out to something weird like 318/72/15
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I thought those were the MB 72 also but I just noticed they look pretty close. The 72's cost just $99 each
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33/12.5/15 is an actual tire size, just float size or standard size, in metric it works out to something weird like 318/72/15

I did not know this. This explains why I can't find them anywhere! LOL
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Hey! Love this thread, I'm considering the exact wheel setup and been waiting to pull the trigger. Shacklyn, How is your stocker tailgate holding up to that wheel/tire combo? I've heard that it's to heavy and won't fit. Also, how does the weight match up to the stock 17"??

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Hot damn those look hot. Okay, I hope it's not rude to ask, but what did this set up cost you? It is damn close to what I am deciding on. I had MT/R s on my mind, but wow the duratracs are right there...... Thanks.
Guys on here will probably shriek when I say what I paid. I have read other threads where folks paid a lot less. With no discounts of any kind - and paying to have the TPMS sensors moved over, I paid $1,899.

Five 15 X 8 Level 8 Trackers - $495
New lugs - $45
Five 33x12.50R15C2 - $955
TPMS valve kit - $50

I was also charged a total of $233 for lifetime spin balancing and something called "5 certificates for free replacement". I never asked for either of those, but I was in a tire daze at the time.
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Hey! Love this thread, I'm considering the exact wheel setup and been waiting to pull the trigger. Shacklyn, How is your stocker tailgate holding up to that wheel/tire combo? I've heard that it's to heavy and won't fit. Also, how does the weight match up to the stock 17"??

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Well, after less than 12 hours with the new spare on the tailgate, I am working from quite a small same size... As you can see from the pic, just as the tires stick further out from the fenders, the spare also sticks out further from the tailgate.

The tailgate feels the same opening and closing, and with the Daystar bump stops, it feels real solid back there.

Unfortunately, when I asked my DT guy to weigh one wheel from each set, he told me they didn't have a scale. I don't know for sure, but from some of the other threads I have read on here, this setup is almost the same weight as the stock setup I had.
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By the way, I just measured front and back tires with a tape measure. The tires protrude from all fenders by the same amount - 2.75". Sorry for the constant posts, but I keep thinking of things I forgot.

Thanks for the PM & posting the pics. Nice looking rig. Those tires look big on those 15's. Partially due to the 2.75" sticking out. I wish they made a level 8 with 4.5 BS tho.

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Jeep looks good. The 33X12.50X15 Duratracs weigh 49 pounds each. With your new rims, the tire/wheel weight should be less than your stockers.
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Jeep looks good. The 33X12.50X15 Duratracs weigh 49 pounds each. With your new rims, the tire/wheel weight should be less than your stockers.
Yep. My recollection is that the 15" Trackers have a shipping weight of 21 lbs--six pounds less than the stock wheel I believe. Those Duratracs are within what, a pound or so ? , of the stock BFG. So you should be lighter than you were.
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Looks good shacklyn. Glad you finally got them on and very happy to hear you are pleased with them. As you know, this is the setup I was going to go with, but canceled the order. After seeing the pics, I'm glad I did. They just stick out a bit too far for me. Not taking anything away from the setup though. It is a great looking wheel and hard to beat the Duratrac.

Also, those certificates you mentioned are for replacement of damaged tires. For example, you are riding down the road and hit something that completely gashes a tire. You take that tire into any DT and they will give you a new tire. You then have the option of purchasing the certificate for that new tire. Seems like the certificates for the 33x12.5x15 DTs is around $24 or something like that.

And, yes, I definitely shrieked when I saw that price you listed! Ouch!!!
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Looks good shacklyn. Glad you finally got them on and very happy to hear you are pleased with them. As you know, this is the setup I was going to go with, but canceled the order. After seeing the pics, I'm glad I did. They just stick out a bit too far for me. Not taking anything away from the setup though. It is a great looking wheel and hard to beat the Duratrac.

Also, those certificates you mentioned are for replacement of damaged tires. For example, you are riding down the road and hit something that completely gashes a tire. You take that tire into any DT and they will give you a new tire. You then have the option of purchasing the certificate for that new tire. Seems like the certificates for the 33x12.5x15 DTs is around $24 or something like that.

And, yes, I definitely shrieked when I saw that price you listed! Ouch!!!
Be sure to post up lots of pics of your new setup. I want to see what wheel set you went with.

By the way, I went through a couple of mud puddles in a local cemetery today - on a gravel road at about 15 mph.

The Jeep didn't even flinch, but when I got home, I noticed a big side effect of the tires sticking 2.75" outside the fenders...
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Be sure to post up lots of pics of your new setup. I want to see what wheel set you went with.

By the way, I went through a couple of mud puddles in a local cemetery today - on a gravel road at about 15 mph.

The Jeep didn't even flinch, but when I got home, I noticed a big side effect of the tires sticking 2.75" outside the fenders...
I posted up a thread of the new wheels a couple days ago. Went with 16x8.5 Level 8 Strike 5s wrapped in 33" Falken Rocky Mountains. Nothing but craptastic cell phone pics right now. Gonna try to get some better shots before too long.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/fin...up-139922.html

And, the pic you posted is one of the reasons I didn't stick with that combo. Lol.
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Looks wicked good. I want to do 33x12.5x15 BFG's on a 15x10 rock crawler w/ 3.75" backspacing and 1.25" spacers on my '08 Sahara. The only thing I was concerned about was whether or not the rotors/calipers would be a problem going from an 18" wheel to a 15".
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Looks wicked good. I want to do 33x12.5x15 BFG's on a 15x10 rock crawler w/ 3.75" backspacing and 1.25" spacers on my '08 Sahara. The only thing I was concerned about was whether or not the rotors/calipers would be a problem going from an 18" wheel to a 15".
Whoa now! You want to put spacers on a wheel that already has 3.75" of backspacing? A 10" wide wheel at that? You would be taking that backspacing down to 2.5"! Your wheels and tires will stick out like 5" from your fender. No way I would recommend that setup. A 10" wide wheel with 3.75" backspacing is already going to stick out quite a good ways.

All that said, I believe the rock crawler wheels are steel, correct? So you may end up having to grind your caliper a bit for them to fit. Steel wheels are notoriously finicky with the JKs.
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Well, I have put about 100 miles on the new setup this weekend. 25 miles of that was on rural two-lane roads. The other 75 were highway miles - speed limit 60.

There is a definite difference in the way the JK drives and handles. The Duratracs are way more knobby than the stock tires. I notice a slight increase in road noise, but I suspect it will be slightly more noticeable when the soft top goes back on in a couple of months.

As for handling, I notice a bit more understeer with the 12.5 wide Duratracs. On the highway at 60 - with cruise control on - there is much more "wander" going on. It's nothing severe, trust me. But, if you tend to be lazy on long highway drives and sometimes use the "knee" or "one finger" steering for short periods, you won't be able to do it quite so easily with these tires.

Today was a very windy day in Central Indiana. Wind gusts on the highway required a bit more steering wheel interaction than usual. It's not like I'm fighting the wheel or anything. It's just that I felt I was making way more tiny steering wheel adjustments than I used to at highway speeds.

I was told going from stock to these Duratracs would be a noticeable difference. It is. But lest you think I'm complaining, I should tell you I love them so far, and I regret nothing.

Later this week, I'm taking a 600 mile road trip on them - mostly interstate. I will get a better feel for any MPG impact when I return. My 75 miles of highway driving today yielded 18MPG - but, as I said, the wind was howling, so that's not a good benchmark.
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any rubbing issues? been thinking about taking this plunge before the lift but have some concerns.....especially the tabs coming off the body in the rear wheel well that look life knifes put there to slash larger tires
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any rubbing issues? been thinking about taking this plunge before the lift but have some concerns.....especially the tabs coming off the body in the rear wheel well that look life knifes put there to slash larger tires
You shouldn't have any problems with 33s with the stock pinch seam. There are MANY folks running 33s on stock suspension with no problem.

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