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Old 04-30-2013, 02:43 PM   #1
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35's and stock tire carrier??

Im getting 35 duratracs and am wondering if they fit on the stock jk carrier or can warp the gate because iv heard they can. Is there something cheap i can get to fix this or do i have to spend the money for an aftermarket tire carrier?
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:46 PM   #2
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Maybe u can get away with a 1 1/2 wheel spacer to bring it out. I have a 33" on the factory rack but it was tuff getting it on there

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I have a 35" spare on the stock location for a month now. I have a spacer to push it out further. Haven't been on any big trails yet. This is only temporary until I get some cash.
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You can make it a bit but thou need something stronger.
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You'll warp your tailgate, possible cause it to sag and pop the welds. Ask me how I know. And I used a Shittaybuilt HD Oversized Tire Carrier.

Get a decent mount like the hinged Teraflex or a bumper mounted carrier.
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Im getting 35 duratracs and am wondering if they fit on the stock jk carrier or can warp the gate because iv heard they can. Is there something cheap i can get to fix this or do i have to spend the money for an aftermarket tire carrier?
You should be fine temporarily. Some people say it will damage your tailgate, others have ran with a full size spare for years and have had no problems.

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You should be fine temporarily. Some people say it will damage your tailgate, others have ran with a full size spare for years and have had no problems.

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This looks good, is it fairly easy to mount? Do I need spacers or anything to fit it on? How does it fair wheeling? Will it cause the tire to jiggle and warp it? Do you have it?
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Here's What it Looks Like When Done

I have the Smiltybilt and I had Jeep do it while they were doing other things to it. It was just under $200 installed. I wouldn't wait if your putting on a heavier tire and wheel.
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I installed the MBRP Tailgate reinforcement kit. I also take my spare off and put it in the back while offroading. Hopefully, this will get me by until I can get the TF tire carrier.
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Im getting 35 duratracs and am wondering if they fit on the stock jk carrier or can warp the gate because iv heard they can. Is there something cheap i can get to fix this or do i have to spend the money for an aftermarket tire carrier?
I now have a permanent in-jeep setup for my spare, but I ran a 35 on the stock carrier around town with daystar bump stops, and took it off while offroading. Didn't have any issues but I would highly recommend NOT running a 35 on the stock carrier... ESPECIALLY offroad.
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How do you have an injeep setup for your spare?
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Im getting 35 duratracs and am wondering if they fit on the stock jk carrier or can warp the gate because iv heard they can. Is there something cheap i can get to fix this or do i have to spend the money for an aftermarket tire carrier?
I've been using the stock carrier with 35" spare for a year now with no issues. Everything is still tight and holding firm. I have BFG KM2 tires. I believe your duratracs are lighter...?

I wheel once or twice a month, fairly hard trails at Corral Canyon, Ocotillo Wells, Superstition Mountain, and a few other areas in SoCa. FYI, I have heard that the 2012 and newer JKs tire carriers are stronger than older years. So far I'm inclined to believe it. YMMV and I'm not sure if that is a true statement or not.

I put 13000 miles on my Rubicon over the last year. several offroad runs, rock crawling or dune blasting and the stock carrier is fine so far. I am keeping an eye on it however.

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This looks good, is it fairly easy to mount? Do I need spacers or anything to fit it on? How does it fair wheeling? Will it cause the tire to jiggle and warp it? Do you have it?
Depending on the back spacing of the wheel and depth of the lug holes some modification of this mount might be necessary. As was the case for me with Level8 Trackers. I had to grind some of the metal off the round tube the wheel sits on, grind the bracket that presses in to the lug holes and space the vertical bars out a bit so they made contact with the tire. Even after a nice snug fit it still caused my tailgate to sag and pull on the welds near the hinges.
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How do you have an injeep setup for your spare?
I literally just removed the stock carrier and strap my spare down flat.



Works great to keep the CG low and centered, which is important when wheeling. AND I didn't have to spend an arm and a leg on a tire carrier.

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Lots of people are fine with 35's on the stock spare tire carrier for a long time, and lots have had problems. There are many factors involved, and it's certainly taking a risk that could end up costing you more money in the end. Personally I wouldn't and didn't take the chance. I bought my aftermarket tire carrier before getting my 35's.
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Sorry to sort of threadjack but I just ordered new wheels and tires and they're 35X12.5X15 on 15X8's and I believe the new set up will only be 15 more pounds at the most more than the stock rubicon set up. Do you think that would cause any problems? My Jeep is used for weekend wheeling nothing too crazy yet and DD'ing
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is there really a difference in the 2012+ tire carriers from the previous years?
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is there really a difference in the 2012+ tire carriers from the previous years?
same tihs, different year
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I literally just removed the stock carrier and strap my spare down flat.



Works great to keep the CG low and centered, which is important when wheeling. AND I didn't have to spend an arm and a leg on a tire carrier.

Where did your back seats go?
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Haha nice.
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You'll warp your tailgate, possible cause it to sag and pop the welds. Ask me how I know. And I used a Shittaybuilt HD Oversized Tire Carrier.

Get a decent mount like the hinged Teraflex or a bumper mounted carrier.
Do you mean that it warped and sagged before you used the smittybuilt or with it your tailgate warped and sagged?
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Do you mean that it warped and sagged before you used the smittybuilt or with it your tailgate warped and sagged?
I installed the Smittybuilt with the 35. So I've never had anything but that combo on my tailgate.
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I installed the Smittybuilt with the 35. So I've never had anything but that combo on my tailgate.
So you would not recommend the smittybuilt with a 35? You pretty much got the same damage and end result on your tailgate as if you stock mounted it?
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Does the Smittybilt tire extension/carrier allow for a 3rd brake light? I've recently bought a new LED 3rd brake light and want to figure out a way to still utilize it.
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So you would not recommend the smittybuilt with a 35? You pretty much got the same damage and end result on your tailgate as if you stock mounted it?
No it's not the carrier itself that is the weakest point. It's the hinges and the spot welds. Nothing sucks more than a permanently warped tailgate. My buddy has one and its horrible
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So you would not recommend the smittybuilt with a 35? You pretty much got the same damage and end result on your tailgate as if you stock mounted it?
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No it's not the carrier itself that is the weakest point. It's the hinges and the spot welds. Nothing sucks more than a permanently warped tailgate. My buddy has one and its horrible
Exactly. The Smitty and stock carrier both mount the same way to the tailgate. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. What the Smitty does do is allows you to tailor the fit of the wheel/tire and gives a little more rigidity. But the stress still lies on the hinges and welds. Larger, wider tires, even if they only weigh 15-20lbs more than stock, still will stick out further. The further extension and added weight puts a LOT more leverage on the tailgate.
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I am running the Smittybuilt to save weight
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I have a Smittybilt Oversize carrier for sale. Used about 4 months.
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Does the Smittybilt tire extension/carrier allow for a 3rd brake light? I've recently bought a new LED 3rd brake light and want to figure out a way to still utilize it.
Yes. You have to use your factory harness but, it comes with a brake light extension to push it up above a 37" tire. For what it's worth, I run the Smittybilt and have had zero problems. I'd recommend it. However, I'd pick up a few extra 8x70 mm bolts just in case you snap a head off of the bolts with tightening. Ask how I know.

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