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Old 07-30-2014, 02:50 PM   #1
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35's versus Willys Wheeler wheels

I'm in a bit of a dilemma.

I don't want to lift the Jeep using aftermarket lift kits because it will void my warranty. In fact, I don't know if I ever will; I'm thinking about buying the extended warranty at some point. I want to have this Jeep until the day I die.

I know some of you think lift kits won't void the warranty, and that's your right, but having worked as a tech at three dealerships, I know how the mind of service managers and advisors work. I'm trying to avoid the hassle.

So, I'm about to install 10A springs/ shocks on my 2-door. Do you think having 35's with that configuration is plausible? If not, I was just going to buy some Willys Wheeler wheels and call it day. Every time I venture into the wheel forum and see the Level 8 Tracker Pro wheels (which will supposedly be available sometime in September), I want to go with 35's. I am actually planning on taking the Rubi on trails starting next year --- making a trip to Arkansas, and then in the following years, to Colorado, California, and Utah.

Thoughts?

Edit: Another thing I've read is a dealer voiding the warranty (at least on suspension) for even going off-road. Is that a common occurrence?

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you'll need wheel spacers, need to add some sort of tire carrier because the wheel will not fit w/ a 35/12.5/17 on the stock location.

trim/remove/get flat fenders.

front bumper may need some trimming too.

35's can be done on stock suspension.

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If I follow your line of thinking won't 35" tires void you're warranty, at some point you are going to have to man up and except that you might break something and the dealership might not take care of it.
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you'll need wheel spacers, need to add some sort of tire carrier because the wheel will not fit w/ a 35/12.5/17 on the stock location.

trim/remove/get flat fenders.

front bumper may need some trimming too.

35's can be done on stock suspension.
I don't know if I'd call it stock suspension. The 10A configuration from a JKU would give me close to 2" of lift if I recall correctly. My Jeep is just a 2-door Rubicon (not 10A Rubicon).

I have some Spidertrax wheel spacers, so that's good. I could get some Bushwacker flares. I think I read that the 35's would rub on the air dam (I think that's what it's called), so I could trim that.

With all that, do you think the 35's would rub anything with suspension at full flex? And, secondly, do you think it would look crappy (because I think everyone wants their Jeep to look good, too)?
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If I follow your line of thinking won't 35" tires void you're warranty, at some point you are going to have to man up and except that you might break something and the dealership might not take care of it.
Yeah, I think you're right.
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It's not that we "think" it won't, we KNOW it won't. Read your warranty and you will see the only things that can VOID your warranty. Any aftermarket part that causes damage can be grounds for DENIAL of a warranty claim. Denial does not equal void.

You can play semantics all you want but by adding 10A springs you are in fact putting a lift on your Jeep. Adding 35's will do far more to cause denial of warranty claims than a lift ever will. You are adding greater strain on all driveline components as well as the powertrain.

Do you plan on using a Procal to re-program your speedometer/odometer? If not, I will suggest that you are knowingly tampering with your odometer which in fact IS grounds for voiding your warranty.

Do you still want to discuss what we THINK vs. what you KNOW?
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Are 35" tires going to fit 'safely' on your 17"x7.5" wheels? Better check the tire specs at tirerack.com first. If not, you can get new wheels with the appropriate backspacing/offset and sell your spacers. I 'think' that the coil swap would allow for the 35's but depends on if you off-road or flex. I have the 18/60's and pretty sure I could have 35's but mine is mainly a DD and I rarely take it off road.
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Thanks daggo. I appreciate your thoughts.

(And yes, I have a Procal if I choose to go with 35s.)
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The key is to find a mod friendly dealer. I have 2 heavily modded Wranglers that have their full warranties completely intact.
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Are 35" tires going to fit 'safely' on your 17"x7.5" wheels? Better check the tire specs at tirerack.com first. If not, you can get new wheels with the appropriate backspacing/offset and sell your spacers. I 'think' that the coil swap would allow for the 35's but depends on if you off-road or flex. I have the 18/60's and pretty sure I could have 35's but mine is mainly a DD and I rarely take it off road.
lol, I guess I should have worded the original post better. I didn't mean 35's on Willys Wheelers.

I meant one or the other, as in, should I go with 35's (and face denial of warranty claims) or just stick with Willys Wheelers and stock Rubicon tires (and know that there will be no denial of warranty claims)?

P.S. Every time I see your Jeep's pic, I just want to say f*** 35's! It looks damn good. LOL
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Don't buy willys edition wheels if you have a Rubicon. The tires are the same ones your rubicon came with.
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Fit on my stock wheels just fine
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Thanks daggo. I appreciate your thoughts.

(And yes, I have a Procal if I choose to go with 35s.)
If you already have the Procal, you know you're going with 35's. Just do it!
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Don't buy willys edition wheels if you have a Rubicon. The tires are the same ones your rubicon came with.
Isn't that a good reason to buy those wheels? I wouldn't have to buy new tires. I wasn't planning on putting the Willys Wheeler wheels on 35's. It was either go with 35's and Level 8 Tracker Pros or Willys Wheeler wheels on stock Rubicon tires.
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lol, I guess I should have worded the original post better. I didn't mean 35's on Willys Wheelers.

I meant one or the other, as in, should I go with 35's (and face denial of warranty claims) or just stick with Willys Wheelers and stock Rubicon tires (and know that there will be no denial of warranty claims)?

P.S. Every time I see your Jeep's pic, I just want to say f*** 35's! It looks damn good. LOL
Thanks, the only reason I'm not going with 35's is $$$. If I get new tires, I'll probably get the S/T Maxx 255/80/17.

35's on the Level 8 Trackers will still be nice.
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You'd be surprised at how little the cost if you go down to 16" wheels. dicounttiredirect.com
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If you already have the Procal, you know you're going with 35's. Just do it!
If I do 35's, then this happens...



By the way, if I go with 35's, it wasn't going to be with the Willys Wheeler wheels. It was one "versus" the other. If I go 35's, it will probably be on 15 or 16-inch Level 8 Tracker Pros.

Just not sold on 35's yet. Going to look at Digger's Jeep again.
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Just not sold on 35's yet. Going to look at Digger's Jeep again.
Lol. Here ya go.
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Looks good digger. I like that new shade of red.
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Looks good digger. I like that new shade of red.
Thanks, but that's Flame Red. The new red is Firecracker Red.
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My link got messed up somehow. They give a forum discount. Home - Discount Tire Direct
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I'm not sure 35's are going to work with just a spring swap and more back spacing from new wheels. I am now running 33.5" tires with 18/59 springs (gave me 1.5" lift) and 1.5" wheel spacers on stock willys rims.nthere is currently no rubbing but I know I am very limited on flex right now, so with 35s I think you would have some rubbing with even minimal flexing. I would imagine you need at least a total of 2.5" lift. What springs do you have now? Going to 19/60 springs is going to help, but might not be enough.
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Looks good man! What is the size of those tires?

They are 10A springs...I think they offer the most lift of any JK spring combo. I have Spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers, too.
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I can speak from experience get 35's or you will rue the day you got smaller. You will need flat fenders and bump stops with the 10A coils. You will ride worse tho so skip those and get some RK1.5" triple rate coils instead. 95% of the dealers will not even bat an eye as you wont be all jacked up like a 3-4" lift. I have a 14 rubicon and have 34's with the RK 1.5" and wished I would have went with 35's. Not sure why you want willys wheels as they are the same as yours only black. just paint yours.
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Looks good man! What is the size of those tires? They are 10A springs...I think they offer the most lift of any JK spring combo. I have Spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers, too.
295/75-17 (33.5 x 11.6)

I really thought about 35s but I am very happy with these, and no mods to the drivetrain...
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I can speak from experience get 35's or you will rue the day you got smaller. You will need flat fenders and bump stops with the 10A coils. You will ride worse tho so skip those and get some RK1.5" triple rate coils instead. 95% of the dealers will not even bat an eye as you wont be all jacked up like a 3-4" lift. I have a 14 rubicon and have 34's with the RK 1.5" and wished I would have went with 35's. Not sure why you want willys wheels as they are the same as yours only black. just paint yours.
Hmm...I'll scour Craiglist and see if I can find some Rubi takeoff wheels. I don't really have enough time to take the wheels off the Rubi and paint them; it'll be my daily driver in a few days after I sell my car.

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