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Old 01-08-2011, 11:13 AM   #1
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4-Hi Donuts and Traction Control

Hello all, just thought I'd share my little learning moment. I was out playing in the snow a bit, came upon a large empty parking lot and figured it's high time I do some 4wd donuts. I put it in 4-hi, turned off (well, turned off as much as they let you in 4-hi) the ESC and had a little fun. The ESC was (I figure) desperately engaging to avoid me rolling over and/or fishtailing. It seems that after a 5-10 seconds of trying to help it just 'gave up'. The ESC active dummy light remained lit on the dash permanently. I went back and forth from 2-hi and 4-hi a couple times while also hitting the disengage ESC button a few times and nothing seemed to turn off the dummy light.

It seems that during an extreme enough event, the system decides that stabilty control isn't useful or desired so it turns itself off. I figured, OK...turned the Jeep off, waiting a couple seconds, turned it back on....

Nope, dummy light still on, stability control still off. Scratched my head a little, engaged 4-lo then put it back in 2-hi and viola, dummy light off and ESC fully enabled again. Figured I'd share that for my fellow JK'ers who may not have seen this happen or figured it out yet.

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Old 01-08-2011, 11:30 AM   #2
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if you wanted to do donuts why did you even put it in 4 hi.

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Old 01-08-2011, 11:34 AM   #3
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Cool, I guess you can reset everything while playing in the snow.

Select 4 Hi
Turn Steering 180 Left- Floor It
Turn Steering 180 Right-Floor It

Repeat 3 Times with Vigor

Result:
Compass - Reset
Oil Change Due - Reset
Operating Time - Reset
ESC - Thoroughly Confused
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:28 PM   #4
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Because you can spin it in the same spot like tank
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Old 01-08-2011, 12:57 PM   #5
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I found an empty parking lot a few weeks ago after a big snowstorm and had lots of fun too. I had it in 4 Hi. The snow was about two feet deep.

Do donuts cause any damage to the Jeep? Also, wouldn't hydrolocking be a potential issue if snow gets into the airbox?
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:02 PM   #6
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I think donuts, so long as you aren't over-revving the crap out of it and are on a completely slippery surface, are pretty harmless fun. The chances of hydrolocking from snow getting to the airbox and melting is probably a very remote chance. In any case, I was just on some hardpacked stuff not flinging snow around.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:04 PM   #7
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Cool, I guess you can reset everything while playing in the snow.

Select 4 Hi
Turn Steering 180 Left- Floor It
Turn Steering 180 Right-Floor It

Repeat 3 Times with Vigor

Result:
Compass - Reset
Oil Change Due - Reset
Operating Time - Reset
ESC - Thoroughly Confused
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:00 PM   #8
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I must say the esp or whatever it is works well. I drove in 2 inches of snowpack in 2wd all day today and didnt even think of having to go into 4wd and at no time did I feel out of control even when trying to slide alittle. The traction control definitely keeps you in control and safe on slippery roads.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:24 PM   #9
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you can spin it like a tank in 2wd too, you just have to go in reverse

also, I think the hydrolocking is generally a result of water going over the airbox and forcing its way in, it's being driven up much higher, I'd say it's VERY unlikely snow could do that.

any kind of aggressive driving will cause faster wear then babying it. who cares?
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As long as you are watching how high you rev it you won't hurt it. If there was traction you would damage your tires. Donuts will do less wear than off roading anything other than dirt roads
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Old 01-09-2011, 01:04 AM   #11
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I also did some donuts in an empty parking lot today (fellow Eastern PA'r)! The ESC kept clicking on, obviously, which impeded my donuting ability :P I turned that sucker off and we had more fun. I tried both 2wd and 4hi, never saw any problems w/ ESC on or off. But maybe I wasn't "pushing it" as much as the OP.
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:04 PM   #12
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IMHO the best way to do donuts is to disable esp, lock the rear in 2-high & let her rip!!! Works like a charm!

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