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Old 09-17-2010, 02:04 PM   #181
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Well, you may be right about the LR, never had one, but


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I am gonna have to disagree bro. I have owned a land rover discovery, and that transmission was not weak by any means. Land rovers are crap now because they have lost their way in terms of what the vehicle was designed for, and rich british smucks wanting more comfort than off road prowess. The full time 4wd system has many benefits, including the fact that you can spend more time navigating terrain, and less time worrying about when to shift between 4hi and 2wd.
I'm afraid the only person who would "Worry about 4hi/4lo" would have to be a librarian, who's never had a 4x4 !!

When I'm off-road, I worry about "Whacking" my CB antenna-never about the T-CASE !!

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Old 09-17-2010, 02:59 PM   #182
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My disco II had 170,000 miles on it and still shifted like it was brand new. You could hammer the gas and still couldn't feel any rough shifts. The secondary components on land rovers are what is junk. Like the abs module that is shared with h2's, complete crap. The 4.0 engine, transfer case, and transmission are far from garbage.
I couldn't agree more. I had a 2001 Discovery and the drive train in that truck was bullet proof. I put a shifter from a D1 in it to enable the CDL and it turned into a billy goat. Only time I managed to damage it was when I let my ego and my right foot get away from me on a rocky hill climb and detonated that CV joint. That was driver error - not the truck.

Of course it had some electrical problems that nobody could figure out ... I didn't have the time or interest to keep it running anymore so I sold it. It's in the hands of an enthusiast now ... he can spend his weekends bonding with his son while they track down the gremlin in the wires ...

I'm going to spend my weekend cruising in my new JK with the doors and the top off and the sun on my face .

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Old 09-17-2010, 03:31 PM   #183
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I would really appreciate if someone posted good pointers (URLs or phone numbers) for companies that sell and/or install full-time replacements for my 241OR. Honestly the shifting on mine is horrendous even without anxiety of the plastic bushing breaking. I drove a 1975 GAZ-69 that shifted better than that. And I just know that a visit to the official service center will elicit "they all are like that". Might as well replace that unit with something decent, if it exists.
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:48 PM   #184
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This discussion got me searching ... we've got variations on the NP231 transfer case in our JK's (the 241OR is a NP231 with different gears). I've found some discussions about putting a NP242 transfer case in a Wrangler, but nobody who's actually done it.

Although the two look similar in pictures, I'm betting there's a lot of electrical / computer issues to deal with. Plus, the output flanges might be different.

I've also read that the 242 is weaker ... I would assume this is because it's basically a 231 shell with more moving parts crammed inside (like the open differential for example). However, they've used 242's in Dodge trucks behind big diesel engines so it can't be that weak can it?
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The JK Rubi NV241 )OR Rock-Trac 4/1 gear ratio-has a different cable engagement linkage-setup--

Still uses the "famous" nylon bushing, but in a different engagement plane-I don't have any problems !!

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My main problem, if I ever get into N by accident, it's a hell on a stick to engage either 4L or 4H. In such cases, most of the time I had to engage halfway and hold it there by right hand, so that the jeep can be backed to a more level surface where I can rock it and get normal engagement.
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Especially on long downhills, when everyone in front of you is just crawling, dropping to low and 1st gear means you aren't replacing your brakes every year. And no one I know yet has done any damage to anything (axles, bearings, drivetrain) by driving this way...
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Replacing your brakes every year is much cheaper than replacing your transmission every few years!

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