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Old 03-23-2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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4" Suspension System by TeraFlex - 1251400???

I have a 2008 JK Unlimited.

I have a quote on two different lifts and what i have read on here that neither is recommended. Seem like everything i read here you guys say TeraFlex is good. here are the specs for this. Is this a good lift? What else would i be needing with it. I will be running 35x12.5x17 Nitto Trail Grapplers.

Fits 2007 to 2012 JK Wrangler, Rubicon and Unlimited
2 and 4-door models
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4" Extended length coils
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All of the necessary hardware
Max Tire Size: 37x12.50

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Old 03-23-2012, 02:42 PM   #2
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Stay away from the Nittos like the plague. Way to heavy to even be considered a tire.

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Old 03-23-2012, 03:20 PM   #3
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Just curious...why 4"?

You can clear 35's with a 2.5" lift, for far less $$ and hassle.

With a 4" lift, you'll need to buy a new front driveshaft. Also, if they don't come w/the kit, adjustable f/r trackbars and adjustable control arms.

For the 35" tires, you'll need to regear your Jeep, which is +/– $1500. You'll wanna get a new rear bumper/tire carrier, or at the very least a standalone tire carrier such as the OR-FAB. If you plan on wheeling it with any regularity, you're also gonna need a sleeve & gusset job on your front axle, especially if you're gonna run the Nittos, which – as ESP pointed out – weigh about as much as Volkswagens.
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Just curious...why 4"?

You can clear 35's with a 2.5" lift, for far less $$ and hassle.

With a 4" lift, you'll need to buy a new front driveshaft. Also, if they don't come w/the kit, adjustable f/r trackbars and adjustable control arms.

For the 35" tires, you'll need to regear your Jeep, which is +/– $1500. You'll wanna get a new rear bumper/tire carrier, or at the very least a standalone tire carrier such as the OR-FAB. If you plan on wheeling it with any regularity, you're also gonna need a sleeve & gusset job on your front axle, especially if you're gonna run the Nittos, which – as ESP pointed out – weigh about as much as Volkswagens.
no real reason with the 4" just for looks. I am open to suggestions here. I originally was going with a 33" tire and 3.25" rustys and headr bad reviews.
couple questions.
Are you saying with 33" tires you will not need to regear?
with 35" tires i cannot mount on back but a 33" i can?
what would be a good lighter tire? i got a quote on MT Baja?
what lift would look good with the 33"

i want to do this right but my tires are bad and i need replacing very soon. Thanks for the info
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Like KB stated a 2.5" lift will fit up to a 35" tire, but will also look very good with a 33". You will cut the cost of the lift significantly and you will not need to regear with the 08 jeep and the 33's. As well if you run a smaller wheel. Let's say a 15" mb72 and 33" Goodyear Duratracs your weight will be significantly less than your original plan and total price is much less that the larger tire/wheel combos.
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Like KB stated a 2.5" lift will fit up to a 35" tire, but will also look very good with a 33". You will cut the cost of the lift significantly and you will not need to regear with the 08 jeep and the 33's. As well if you run a smaller wheel. Let's say a 15" mb72 and 33" Goodyear Duratracs your weight will be significantly less than your original plan and total price is much less that the larger tire/wheel combos.
^^^ Good advice there.

Shouldn't have to regear w/33's...especially if you've got 3.73 gears. And your stock tire carrier will handle a 33" spare, as long as you don't go with something really heavy. The combo that clvnmcd mentioned is about as light as it gets.

The MT's you looked at are essentially boutique tires...if you can get em cheap, great. If not, I'd move on to something that'll last a bit longer, like the DuraTrac. BFG, Hankook and Falken all make good tires, as well. A lot of it depends on how you intend to use em.

Personally, I think any lift between a TF leveling kit (2" front, 1" rear) and a full-on 2.5" coil lift with shocks looks great on a JK with 33" tires. You should choose the lift based on what you're gonna do with your Jeep. If you off-road infrequently, the leveling kit will fix your Jeep's rake, but still maintain your factory ride. And if you decide later to go to a larger lift, you can sell it for about 75% of the original $130 price.

A good 2-2.5" lift will cost you more, obviously. Rock Krawler, TeraFlex and Full Traction all make good ones. Last thing you wanna do is go cheap on the lift (cheap as in crappy), since you're changing the suspension and handling characteristics of a cinderblock on wheels.

The smaller lift and tires will also save you a bit on gas mileage, though with a Jeep that's kinda like saying you only stabbed your neighbor a little bit.

If you plan on going off-road regularly, you might wanna look at something like the TF 2.5" lift with Bilstein 5100's, which you can buy from Northridge 4x4 for $775 (gotta call Dave and order...kit's not listed on their site).

However, in some instances with the 2.5" lifts, you'll need to buy an adjustable trackbar to center your axle, and sometimes adjustable front lower control arms to set your Jeep to its proper caster. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.

Lots to consider, I know. But you'll be a lot happier with your Jeep if you get it right from the jump, rather than having to scramble to fix shit later on.

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no real reason with the 4" just for looks. I am open to suggestions here. I originally was going with a 33" tire and 3.25" rustys and headr bad reviews.
couple questions.
Are you saying with 33" tires you will not need to regear?
with 35" tires i cannot mount on back but a 33" i can?
what would be a good lighter tire? i got a quote on MT Baja?
what lift would look good with the 33"

i want to do this right but my tires are bad and i need replacing very soon. Thanks for the info
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^^^ Good advice there.

Shouldn't have to regear w/33's...especially if you've got 3.73 gears. And your stock tire carrier will handle a 33" spare, as long as you don't go with something really heavy. The combo that clvnmcd mentioned is about as light as it gets.

The MT's you looked at are essentially boutique tires...if you can get em cheap, great. If not, I'd move on to something that'll last a bit longer, like the DuraTrac. BFG, Hankook and Falken all make good tires, as well. A lot of it depends on how you intend to use em.

Personally, I think any lift between a TF leveling kit (2" front, 1" rear) and a full-on 2.5" coil lift with shocks looks great on a JK with 33" tires. You should choose the lift based on what you're gonna do with your Jeep. If you off-road infrequently, the leveling kit will fix your Jeep's rake, but still maintain your factory ride. And if you decide later to go to a larger lift, you can sell it for about 75% of the original $130 price.

A good 2-2.5" lift will cost you more, obviously. Rock Krawler, TeraFlex and Full Traction all make good ones. Last thing you wanna do is go cheap on the lift (cheap as in crappy), since you're changing the suspension and handling characteristics of a cinderblock on wheels.

The smaller lift and tires will also save you a bit on gas mileage, though with a Jeep that's kinda like saying you only stabbed your neighbor a little bit.

If you plan on going off-road regularly, you might wanna look at something like the TF 2.5" lift with Bilstein 5100's, which you can buy from Northridge 4x4 for $775 (gotta call Dave and order...kit's not listed on their site).

However, in some instances with the 2.5" lifts, you'll need to buy an adjustable trackbar to center your axle, and sometimes adjustable front lower control arms to set your Jeep to its proper caster. Doesn't happen often, but it happens.

Lots to consider, I know. But you'll be a lot happier with your Jeep if you get it right from the jump, rather than having to scramble to fix shit later on.
I definitely want to get it right. So the bfg dura trac seems like the way to go. I priced some 17" rims but maybe will switch to 15".?? What is bilstein 5100 are they shocks? I will look into the tf lift. I definitely want suspension. I saw a bunch of 3" but I will look. Dang this is too much info to take in at once lol.
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I definitely want to get it right. So the bfg dura trac seems like the way to go. I priced some 17" rims but maybe will switch to 15".?? What is bilstein 5100 are they shocks? I will look into the tf lift. I definitely want suspension. I saw a bunch of 3" but I will look. Dang this is too much info to take in at once lol.
DuraTrac is Goodyear. If you like the 17" rims, then by all means, stick with em.

But you can buy 15" rims AND tires for the same amount of $$ (and often less) than what you'd pay for 17" tires alone. They'll be lighter and will give you a bigger contact patch, as well as save you $$ again when it comes time to buy new tires.

Be aware that not all 15" wheels will fit the over the Wrangler's brake calipers. Steel rims in that size usually will NOT; but most alloy 15" wheels will.

The Bilstein 5100's are shocks. If you're interested in that lift I mentioned in my earlier post (the TF 2.5" lift w/Bilsteins), you can order that thru Northridge 4x4 by calling Dave (or whoever answers the phone). Like I said, it's not listed on their site. Last I heard it was $775 shipped.

BTW...You'd be wise to check w/the guys from Discount Tires Direct (forum vendor) on the tires/wheels. They'll tell you what fits, what works with what, they'll price match, and their cost is shipped to your door. PM em or call em with questions.

Here's a link to the Northridge site:

Northridge4x4 Jeep Parts Online Store

All this sudden info may seem a little overwhelming at the moment, but if you break it down it's really not so bad. Decide on the lift you want. Then choose a tire/wheel combo.
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