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Old 03-22-2014, 12:21 PM   #1
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4 tire vs 5 tire rotation

Hello everyone! I'm interested in ppls opinions regarding 4 vs 5 tire rotation - does one have an added benefit over the other? My thoughts are to rotate the 5 - longer use of the tires, even wear on all 5. Hubby thinks I should just do 4, therefore keeping spare new and only have to buy 4 new tires vs 5 when the time comes. My jeep is new, thus new set of tires, and I should mention that the spare is covered.

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Old 03-22-2014, 12:37 PM   #2
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I do all five. That way the spare wears evenly with remaining tires. Otherwise when you need spare, it could be a significantly different diameter than your worn out tires.

This logic may make more sense on oversized MT tires, maybe for stockers your Hubby's logic is sound.

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Old 03-22-2014, 12:40 PM   #3
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I do 4 tire rotation only. The marginal benefits of including the spare are not worth the additional effort to me. If I drove 20k miles a year I might reconsider.
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There is a problem with his buying only theory. Tires have an age life as well as a wear life. If you rotate all 5 and get 20% extra tread life, you actually realize more of a savings than buying 4 sooner and have to replace the spare at some point anyway because of dry rot.

Two other factors to consider. Most Jeep owners go to a larger tire size when they replace tires and tire manufacturers change tread patterns and discontinue tires from time to time.
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I do 4 tire rotation only. The marginal benefits of including the spare are not worth the additional effort to me. If I drove 20k miles a year I might reconsider.
Unless you have a professional lift where all 4 wheels are off the ground, it is easier to do a 5 tire rotation on a Wrangler over a 4 tire rotation.

Even if you have lift, the difference in effort would be minimal.

I drive 6000-7000 miles a year, so I basically have an annual rotation.
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My $.12

5 tire myself. That said, 1 will always be a smidge bigger. as opposed to leaving it set. If doing a 4 tire, who's to say that on the next purchase, you buy a different brand or style. then you will have the odd ball hanging out there. Drives me nuts to see it.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:49 PM   #7
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I always do 5 on a vehicle with a full sized matching spare.

To me, it's easier because all you need is a floor jack - no jack stands required because you only have one wheel off the ground at a time.

Also, tires have a shelf life. Whether on your spare carrier or bolted to the hub, they will age. I plan on getting my money's worth before I throw them in the trash.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:58 PM   #8
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My thoughts. I rotate 5. I am only driving about 6k a year. When I do need new tires I want all 5 to match. What if the tires I am using now are discontinued or I find some I like better? Then I feel I have wasted that 5th tire.
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I do all five for reasons previously mentioned
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:28 PM   #10
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I also agree with the 5 tire rotation. Ease of ony having one tire in the air, 20% more wear, tires age even if not being used and of course more then likely replacing with a different tread down the road.
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:48 PM   #11
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5 tire for me, every 3k miles
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Old 03-22-2014, 03:55 PM   #12
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5 here as well, for the above mentioned reasons.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:18 PM   #13
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I've been doing 4 only. I should of done 5 but didn't think about it, oh well. Tire life span is 10 years from production date. But of course, you'll have to judge the dry rot & other factors as well.
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Piling on....

Every 4-5K miles. All 5 like this:

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5 because it is easier to do in the driveway, although now Discount Tire gets the duty.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:30 PM   #16
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I do a 5-tire rotation. My owner's manual says to rotate the tires at every oil change (pg. 615 in the 2013 owner's manual). Since we have our oil changed around every 2,000 miles (ask me why if you're curious) I just wait and rotate them every 5,000 miles.
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Ok. Why?
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:09 PM   #18
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5 tire rotate for me every 5K.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:36 PM   #19
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5 tire for me also. Every 6000 miles (every other oil change).
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Piling on....

Every 4-5K miles. All 5 like this:
This doesn't work for me whats the Best way to do all five with directional tires without a shop.
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Old 03-22-2014, 08:09 PM   #21
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If you've got directional tread, how did you decide which direction to mount the 5th tire?
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Question... If you did a 4 rotation at 5k miles, is it too late to add the spare into the rotation at 10k miles?
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Question... If you did a 4 rotation at 5k miles, is it too late to add the spare into the rotation at 10k miles?
No. It won't make a difference.
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Question... If you did a 4 rotation at 5k miles, is it too late to add the spare into the rotation at 10k miles?
Don't wait. I would switch it in now with the right rear. Then do your 5 tire rotation on schedule, this way it while catch up somewhat on wear.
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5 always. I don't want a spare to be an odd size when needed and I want the most from my tires. If you are only doing 4 you are wasting a tire.
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I bought my Jeep used, and measuring the tread depth today it looked like the tires have about half their life remaining (the spare is unused, so I was able to compare easily). So I'm going to do a 4 tire rotation until these are done, and then I'll replace all and start a 5.
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I flipped a coin
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Old 03-22-2014, 10:58 PM   #28
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I've done both. On my last jeep I only rotated 4. After ripping a side wall at 25,000+ miles I realized I wasted a tire by having it only hang off the back. After buying a new tire I essentially had 2 full threaded tires and 3 1/2 treaded. I put the new ones on the back and it ran ok but they wore out unevenly for the rest of their life. Now I rotate 5 every 3000 (and look out for scrap metal when wheeling around old mines).

With some nice rock sliders and a hi-lift it only takes lifting the jeep 2X: first the right side then the left. (2door). Hardest part however is hanging the new spare back up...
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5 for me as well...
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I bought my Jeep used, and measuring the tread depth today it looked like the tires have about half their life remaining (the spare is unused, so I was able to compare easily). So I'm going to do a 4 tire rotation until these are done, and then I'll replace all and start a 5.
I'm in the same boat, and it is driving me crazy that there is an unusable tire hanging off the back if the jeep. I'm looking forward to upgrading when these suckers wear out.

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