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Old 03-09-2012, 01:26 PM   #1
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430 vs. 730 Nav Radio (or nada)

My JKU Sport is on order with U-Connect and I have arranged with the dealer to install the 430. I was just reading the problems with the 730 threads and am curious for your opinions.

Should I get the 430, the 730 or scap 'em both and install something after market. To be honest, I am very happy navigating with Google Maps on my Droid 3 in a car dock stuck to the windshield.

I currently use Ford Sync and freaking love it to make calls, stream via bluetooth (audio books downloaded free from the local library), and play music off my thumb drive.

Anyway, appreciate your comments and recommendations.

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Hey, good thread for me! How much is the dealer charging for a 430? And I wonder how much a 730 would be. I've looked at aftermarkets, JVC has a nice one, but not sure. Have 4 or 5 more weeks to figure this out!

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my wife has a 430 in her 2011 liberty. i have the 730 in my rubi. its apples and oranges. i like some of the features on my radio, but i like the garmon set up. the 730 lacks a lot of the features of the garmin such as speed limits posting in the lower right hand corner and trip times and other handy stuff....but you can learn to live with it. if you've used or had a nuvi and liked it, the 430 is probably your best bet.

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730 is going to be the best way for me but i guess it's all about what you like. If you go with the 730N you can talk to the nav and do a couple other things you will not be able to do with the others.
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I'm getting a Sport S, has UConnect, wonder if I can just ask (and pay!) the dealer to put a 730 in...
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I just ordered a '12 JKU and went with neither. My Nuvi does better than any indash nav I have ever had, and it has lifetime updates. I think the factory installed navs are a rip.
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I can't find the paperwork, but you can definitely have the dealer install the 430 if you ordered with the u-connect. I think I read over on the Chrysler forums that for a dealer install for the 730 -- not so easy, but can be done. I am really thinking about bailing on both ideas since I ordered with half doors and plan on keeping the windows off, perhaps even the door most of the time and don't want to worry about someone trying to rip it out. I also heard that the sound quality of the 130 is far superior to the other two, and I do like my music.
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I just ordered a '12 JKU and went with neither. My Nuvi does better than any indash nav I have ever had, and it has lifetime updates. I think the factory installed navs are a rip.
+1 I use a TomTom tho. Factory nav is the biggest rip off, followed closely by the chrome and black appearance groups IMHO.
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my wife has a 430 in her 2011 liberty. i have the 730 in my rubi. its apples and oranges. i like some of the features on my radio, but i like the garmon set up. the 730 lacks a lot of the features of the garmin such as speed limits posting in the lower right hand corner and trip times and other handy stuff....but you can learn to live with it. if you've used or had a nuvi and liked it, the 430 is probably your best bet.

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730 navigation is less user friendly, but far superior to the 430's navigation in terms of accuracy and flexibility. Once you figure out the 730, the 430's Nav is lacking.

For long road trips, Sirius Traffic does an excellent job of working with the 730 to automatically route you around accidents, traffic, and construction. Also, where the 430 and dashboard nav units fail in tunnels, dense forest, and concrete jungles where you lose the satellite signal the 730's onboard gyroscope takes over to maintain accurate tracking.

If you're just an occasional user of GPS, or are a little technophobic, the 430 or a dash unit is fine, but for off road or professional use, the 730 is the way to go.

For what it's worth, I have one vehicle with the 430, and two with the 730. I've been using in vehicle GPS since 1999, when it was a laptop in the passanger seat and a sensor on the dash
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Then it's the 730 for me! What do I do, just ask the dealer? Is it a big deal for them to do, or "just a thing," I wonder... Heh, and how much will it all cost with parts and labor?
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Then it's the 730 for me! What do I do, just ask the dealer? Is it a big deal for them to do, or "just a thing," I wonder... Heh, and how much will it all cost with parts and labor?
The best way is to have the factory put it in. Has yours started being built yet? Mopar says it's $2170 installed after the fact (retail).

I know there are excellent aftermarket options in that price range, but especially in a Wrangler, I like that the factory unit is covered under my Chrysler lifetime warranty (or whatever warranty you have), rather than the standard 90 day parts and labor coverage for consumer electronics.
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The best way is to have the factory put it in.
If you want half doors and can't afford the JKUR, like me, haha -- then the 130 with connection group was the only option and anything else has to be a dealer install.

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I just ordered a '12 JKU and went with neither. My Nuvi does better than any indash nav I have ever had, and it has lifetime updates. I think the factory installed navs are a rip.
Factory navs are a rip. People have smart phones, and you can get a far superior after market nav for cheap.
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I decked out my rubicon, 730n+infinity system and so far that is my only regret with the Jeep. If I knew what I know now, I'd of spent the money and gone full out aftermarket.
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My JKU Sport is on order with U-Connect and I have arranged with the dealer to install the 430. I was just reading the problems with the 730 threads and am curious for your opinions.

Should I get the 430, the 730 or scap 'em both and install something after market. To be honest, I am very happy navigating with Google Maps on my Droid 3 in a car dock stuck to the windshield.

I currently use Ford Sync and freaking love it to make calls, stream via bluetooth (audio books downloaded free from the local library), and play music off my thumb drive.

Anyway, appreciate your comments and recommendations.

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We tried both and went with the 430. It is easier to use and easier to sync with phones. It also does voice recognition pretty damn well.

I just need to find a way to hook up a backup camera.
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If your scared of theft with the windows out or doors then go aftermarket. They have units where the face will come off.
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As mentioned dealer wants ~$2200 after the fact.. that said aftermarket is the way to go if it didn't come from the factory. Kenwood top of the line is 1300 and fast as heck...you can get an aftermarket that equal to or better than the 730n for about 800... That includes keeping the steering wheel controls
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As mentioned dealer wants ~$2200 after the fact.. that said aftermarket is the way to go if it didn't come from the factory. Kenwood top of the line is 1300 and fast as heck...you can get an aftermarket that equal to or better than the 730n for about 800... That includes keeping the steering wheel controls
I'd sure like to see that price sheet. Just the adapters alone for steering wheel and the gps and satellite antennas are an easy $3-400. What can you get for $800 that even approaches a 730n including all adapters, antennas, etc? Listing the parts and product numbers would be great! Thanks.
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I'd sure like to see that price sheet. Just the adapters alone for steering wheel and the gps and satellite antennas are an easy $3-400. What can you get for $800 that even approaches a 730n including all adapters, antennas, etc? Listing the parts and product numbers would be great! Thanks.
I know someone and got cost on a kenwood 6990HD for $799... 699 after $100 rebate... The steering wheel adaptor was ~50..pardon me so $750 gets a better unit than the 730 which I had in my WK2... it has issues... mine were lousy gps, lose radio presets etc,,, google for more issues on 730N

If you do not have a connection you can still order kenwood units online, or at major retailers (2011 models - still better than 730 N) at retailers such as best buy, frys etc... Most are under 700... even at quadratec, they include the nav antenna... your jeep should have one for am/fm...
Kenwood DNX6180 6.1quot; Wide Double-din Navigation/DVD Receiver

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Amazon.com: Pac Swi-jack Factory Steering Wheel Control Interface Kit for Alpine, Kenwood, Jvc, or Clarion: Car Electronics

Toss in a $100 for dash kit and wire harness (crutchfield giive them free) and your done

My kid bought a generic in dash nav (cant remember the name) for $300 bucks and it works fine. Prob not as good as the 730, but still good.
The 730 is good if you get at the factory.. it does have issues but you learn to over look them as you would in a wife. For me, mine did not come with Nav, $2100 was to much to swap for factory, so after market was my best choice...again for me
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Sorry but you need a gps antenna, satellite antenna, radio harness adapter, steering wheel button adapter, microphone adapter, misc wires, etc and most of the time these things don't come with the HU. $750 doesn't even BEGIN to get you close to a unit with the same functionality as a 730n. $1200 maybe. Maybe. And that's if you do all the work yourself. And I recommend staying FAR away from that kenwood unit. There's a reason why it's so cheap. The decent Pioneer units are $999 and up plus adapters.
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when I ordered mine, the 430 n was the only thing that wasn't in the Jeep. I got pissed off at the dealership and the owner of the dealership was stump that it wasn't in there like I asked. He apologized and said he would give me the 730 n instead
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Sorry but you need a gps antenna its in the box..included,

satellite antenna got me.. if you want sirus/xm, add $67...it also comes with the antenna
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radio harness adapter Crutchfield gives it to you free... if you want to buy it ...here $13 bucks 2007-2011 Jeep Wrangler (JK) Car Stereo Installation Kit - Best - JCWhitney

, steering wheel button adapter Was in my last post... read it Amazon.com: Pac Swi-jack Factory Steering Wheel Control Interface Kit for Alpine, Kenwood, Jvc, or Clarion: Car Electronics 37 bucks,

microphone adapter comes in the box
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misc wires, etc and most of the time these things don't come with the HU all HU come with a plugin harness to wire up to a new system, or plug into the 13 buck adaptor listed above

$750 doesn't even BEGIN to get you close to a unit with the same functionality as a 730n. $1200 maybe. Maybe. And that's if you do all the work yourself. And I recommend staying FAR away from that kenwood unit. There's a reason why it's so cheap. The decent Pioneer units are $999 pioneer equal of the kenwood mentioned in my last post Pioneer AVIC X930BT - Navigation system with DVD player, LCD monitor, digital player and radio - in-dash $522 bucks... and up plus adapters.
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when I ordered mine, the 430 n was the only thing that wasn't in the Jeep. I got pissed off at the dealership and the owner of the dealership was stump that it wasn't in there like I asked. He apologized and said he would give me the 730 n instead
I like that dealer... thats great!
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I have the media center 730n in the durango and lockpick installed. Love it with the ipod functionality. I maybe considering an upgrade down the line and retrofitting a 730n to my wrangler sport. I like the fit and finish of a stock platform. I have had done GPS upgrades to my other cars. They all work the same but the fit and finish doesnt compare to stock.
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I have the 730 and I have been pretty happy with it so far.

Pros (for me)
The GPS works pretty well
I like the live traffic view
Syncs with my phone bluetooth easily
Adds phone mute button to the screen when on a call (extremely important for me)
Displays the radio station on the odometer below the compass

Cons
As yet, there does not seem to be a way to add a rear view camera on the 2012 with manual tranny.
Cannot enter addresses while moving.
Voice command functionality is meh.
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I saw your post jeep but telling people for $750 they can get an equivalent system to the 730n is disingenuous. I'm sorry but no. And that $522 price is for gray market fly by night Seamus O' Reilly type companies which will have no warranty on your radio. Amazon sells it for $719 which is a more realistic price if you want Pioneer to support you. Many of those cheap adapters also won't work well or at all and most of the ones that do are pricey. Minimum $1200 to get a system that even comes somewhat close to the 730n in functionality. We can go at this all day but in the end there is no way to not spend at least $1200 for a less equivalent system than the 730n and that's doing all the work yourself which is not an easy job for a novice.
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I hae three Chrysler products, two with the 730 and one with the 430. I am buying a 730 for the third so anyone that wants a perfect condition 430 out of a 2011 ruby wrangler let me know.

73 hands down, went cross country with it, 430 is retarted they made the garmin adapt to the buttons on the radio that existed. User friendly between the two no comparison, 430 belongs in the trash can.

430 you get the little speed limit sign that tells you what the speed limit is on the road you are on. that is a great feature especially if you long journey in podunk towns. the 730 has traffic option which I will take over the speed limit feature any day.

nav tv is the real product, lock pick is nice but nav tv is the real deal. heard some scuttle that they are in a lawsuit over patent or some crap. when nav tv is done turning lock pick upside down and shaking all the money out of their pockets in the lawsuit you will have a product with no support.

730 with nav tv to over ride the nav and dvd on the fly and reverse cam ask for bob in sales tell him steve with silver hemi referred you and he will take care of you.

if you live anywhere near Boca FL drop off your Jeep and nav tv will be happy to help you get hooked up. They make infrared night vision for the military, they know their shit.

if you go with the pos 430 the lock pick will let you toggle between the speed limit feature and the nav on thy fly. Nav tv saw no point in adding the feature as no one cared about the speed limit option. Great also for a new young driver as the speedo turns red to tell them when they are speeding.
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Here's the Jeep website with the details of the 730:

Uconnect® | Systems | 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 730N/RHR

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