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Old 10-18-2010, 04:32 PM   #1
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Question 5 tire rotation

I know a lot of people use 5 tire rotation. My question is does that mess anything up by having uneven tread on one of your tires like that on your jeep?

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Old 10-18-2010, 04:37 PM   #2
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If you rotate all 5 regularly then you would have no issues, assuming all 5 tires are the same size/brand/type.

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Old 10-18-2010, 04:38 PM   #3
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I know a lot of people use 5 tire rotation. My question is does that mess anything up by having uneven tread on one of your tires like that on your jeep?
While my Jeep was new , I rotated the tires at 2,500 miles, and got the spare rolling into play. So , In my situation, it worked out good for the start. I do my 5 tire rotation at every 5,000 miles.


Why, the 2,500 mile rotation soo soon ?? ,,lol Powdered coated the rims...
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5k Miles comes out to about 1/8" or so... 5-10PSI maybe (as just a blind guess)?

I've always rotated all the tires, and on about half my vehicles that meant a 5 tire. No issues with it ever.
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I rotate every 2,500 miles as well. I do it myself, so cost is not an issue. I do it to try and eke a few hundred more miles out of my tires.
Rotating in the spare KEEPS you from irregularities. Having zero wear on the spare and 4 half-run tires means your spare will be bigger (diameter-wise) than the other 4, which is not good for your diff, or the traction control.

I do NOT agree with folks who keep the spare out of rotation. And don't even get me started on the fools with 4 35's or 37's, and one OEM 31" tire! Mark W.
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:47 PM   #6
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So what's the preferred rotation pattern when rotating all five?
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:26 AM   #7
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spare to rr, rr to fr, fr to rl, rl to fl, fl to spare
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Yep. Check Tire Rack - Your performance experts for tires and wheels for the 5-tire rotation. I forget the name- reverse something-or-other. Been doing it on all my 4WD rigs for years, and I get killer life out of my tires for how I drive- Mark W.
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:48 AM   #9
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I have about 6500 km (4K miles) and haven't rotated the tires yet...

Is it bad ?

Now I am buying new winter tires, I presume I have to get a spare one as well ?
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I rotate mine every 6000 miles or so. I haven't even considered rotating the spare. Guess in a few years when it's time to get a new set, I'll get the same brand/size/etc and include the spare in the rotation cycle.
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^Repo, I'd get it done this week. Not going to kill anyone, but it does drastically effect your tire wear.

As for winter tires, I ALWAYS recommend a matching spare. Grab a set of cheap steel wheels (I have a set of Mopar steels I'll sell you!), and slap your winter tires on there, to avoid damaging your tires in repeated mount/dismounts (giggity! )

Jrose- no worries- a LOT of folks forget about the spare in their rotations. Most dealerships assume NOT to rotate it in (which does cost a couple bucks extra). Yet another reason I only let my own hands touch our JK's Mark W.
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I rotate mine every 6000 miles or so. I haven't even considered rotating the spare. Guess in a few years when it's time to get a new set, I'll get the same brand/size/etc and include the spare in the rotation cycle.
That's not good for several reasons. Rubber compounds break down over the years.
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What spec should you torque your lugs to?
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Old 10-19-2010, 11:36 AM   #14
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I have seen the range from 95 to 110. I torque mine to 100.
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just spoke to my dealer, told me I don't have to rotate the spare, said that if I get a flat I can put the "unevenly worn" spare and buy a new tire to replace it.

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Rotate your dang spare.

Next time you buy tires, the brand you had might not be available or you might want to try something else.

I do a 5-tire at 5K mile intervals.
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Your service rep is a moron, who is obviously used to dealing with morons. As hilldweller said, what if the tire is unavailable, backordered, or the compound has changed? #5 is now dead weight. Bummer. Rotate it in, and you should extend your tire life for all 5 by 10-15%. Giggity Mark W.
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I have a question for those smarter than me.

I bought my JKU with 13,000 and it now has 15,000. It looks like the spare has never been off its carrier.

Will it be an issue to do the five tire rotation now that there is a 15,000 mile difference in wear?

Any thoughts are appreciated. I've been learning so much in the three months since the Jeep became part of the family.

Thanks.
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I have a question for those smarter than me.

I bought my JKU with 13,000 and it now has 15,000. It looks like the spare has never been off its carrier.

Will it be an issue to do the five tire rotation now that there is a 15,000 mile difference in wear?

Any thoughts are appreciated. I've been learning so much in the three months since the Jeep became part of the family.

Thanks.

If you rotate it now and follow the rotation pattern mentioned earlier in this thread then the current spare will hit all four corners before it goes back on the carrier.
I say get it into the rotation ASAP.
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if you rotate it now and follow the rotation pattern mentioned earlier in this thread then the current spare will hit all four corners before it goes back on the carrier.
I say get it into the rotation asap.
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spare to rr, rr to fr, fr to rl, rl to fl, fl to spare
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:34 AM   #22
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About crossing tires in rotation...I thought that when radial tires were introduced long ago that it was determined that crossing tires in rotation was a bad idea. Is that not the case now? What's changed in the time since radials were introduced to make it not be an issue now? Thanks...

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Only goes to directional tires. You can flop them inline with themselves but not cross. Actually Baja Claws work better in the reverse tread (which is wrong to most but to the guys who have tried it).
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Thanks for the quick reply JD! Now to the next logical question...how do you determine what is a directional tire? Is it marked on the tire somewhere? I have a set of Wrangler tires that came with the jeep I bought. Would this apply to them? Thanks...

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Directional tires are usually high performance speed tires. You won't find those on your Jeep. Of the pictures posted above, use the pattern on the right.

Mgola27, I was in a similar situation with a set I bought from a guy with 9k on the tires. I rotate every 6k and was due in 3k when I put them on. I put the former spare on the right rear. I did my rotation on schedule at 3k, but skipped the former spare. This put it in the highest wear position for 9k. I then rotated as normal. They seem to all be wearing normally and evenly.
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Thanks Tom. Now to stretch this topic just a little bit more...what about car tires? Would they be considered "high performance"? I've spoken with several repair shops locally and they all seem to agree that it's not a good idea to cross rotate ANY radial-type tires (that's what I've heard since...forever) but it makes sense about the ones usually found on jeeps (mostly low-speed, low-performance). I'd like to start doing cross-rotation with my car as well if it makes sense. Now - one other issue; I bought this 2005 jeep 1 week ago with 22000 miles on it. Don't know if the tires have been changed since new and the spare looks unused; assuming the tires are original, what would the ramifications be if I started doing the 5-tire cross rotation now? Or should I just do a 4-tire rotation and wait for new tires to start including the spare? Would cross-rotation be advised this far into the useful life of the tires? Sorry for all the questions about this; I've just never thought much about cross rotation since radials were introduced so long ago and am now trying to catch up! Thanks for your help. Rich
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I had never even thought to rotate in the spare, but after a bit of reading on the forum decided it was a good idea. So even though I had 25k miles on my four and no miles on the spare I swapped it in. I figured if it drove uneven or if I could tell it was there I would just swap it back out. Even with a 25k mile difference it was fine.
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I had never even thought to rotate in the spare, but after a bit of reading on the forum decided it was a good idea. So even though I had 25k miles on my four and no miles on the spare I swapped it in. I figured if it drove uneven or if I could tell it was there I would just swap it back out. Even with a 25k mile difference it was fine.
which tires do you have ? Seems to me that after 25K miles, the rubicon tires (BF MT 32inches) 's thread would not be the same size as the brand new spare , wouldn't it cause problems ?
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Directional tires are always clearly marked. Read the sidewall. Since it has to do with taking of braking and side loads with slip, I do not expect A/T tire to be directional, ever. BTW my wife's car has them, but since the rear and front stock sizes are diffrent for her, she never needs to rotate. Don't even know why they bothered to put the warnings on the tires.
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^ Because the tires aren't made JUST for that vehicle- they're universal! Mark W.

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