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Old 05-06-2010, 05:22 PM   #301
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Have you heard any more USAntigoon? I am waiting now for the second set of parts to come in for the TSB rev2. It has been a week so far waiting...

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Old 05-06-2010, 05:53 PM   #302
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Have you heard any more USAntigoon? I am waiting now for the second set of parts to come in for the TSB rev2. It has been a week so far waiting...
Nope... I am still waiting for an answer from Chrysler V.P For Quality.. Might never see an answer though..We"ll see...

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Old 05-10-2010, 09:38 AM   #303
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I am still waiting. Has anyone had luck with the rev 2 TSB working?
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:12 PM   #304
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I just found this thread here but had been following on another forum.

In summary, my Jeep has been doing this since mile 101 when I purchased it in December 2009.

I've taken it to the dealership several times. Duplicated the problem. They've seen it occur several times. We removed the shifter boot and it still happened.

The dealer ordered parts when the original TSB came out.

Then ordered parts when the updated TSB came out.


The parts arrived last week and I took it in for service this week only to find out that they refused to install them.

They'd said that the root problem was the "lower shifter boot interfering" -- they might mean the inner boot.

Additionally, parts to address this are not available and not even fabricated yet but it was apparently a $6 part -- not sure how they could know that.


I've since picked up my Jeep. It had been sitting where I'd dropped it off in lot for almost two days and they did nothing (nor did they call me -- which is very irritating since I called them twice and wasn't told they weren't fixing it).

So does anybody know what's really going on here?

They had the parts to address the updated TSB (21-001-10 REV A).

Is the dealership merely delaying?
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:49 PM   #305
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What other forum were you following on? I am getting the run around on the new TSB parts as well. I have filed a saftey complaint with department of transportation as well as filed for the canadian version of a buyback called CAMVAP. from what I was told by both I have a very good case against Chrysler. A real shame because I have always enjoyed driving a Jeep. For Chrysler to be treating customers like this just amazes me to no end...
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Old 05-13-2010, 09:56 AM   #306
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Had the TSBr2 parts installed from the dealer. Not had a JOG since. They did manage to break a bolt doing the work and had to order a replacement, so that added another day to the fix. Then found the tranny leaking two day after they finished, so back to the dealership. Got that taken care of two days ago but haven't crawled under to check on it yet. The TSBr2 parts do seem to make a difference...I hope I didn't just jinx myself on this fix.
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Old 05-13-2010, 10:15 AM   #307
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USAntigoon,

I'm very interested in your opinion as to why this affects some, but not all of the manual transmissions? Why do you think some of the failures are out of the box and some seem to develop over time?

I'm guessing the numbers are what is keeping this from being an official recall. If I didn't have the LTPW I'd be very concerned since from whathas been reported in the forums, this could surface at anytime.
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Old 05-14-2010, 08:30 PM   #308
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Have been dealing with this issue for at least a year and a half. The last "fix" was a couple months ago. The dealership replaced the transmission and shifter assembly, removed the inner boot permanently. Although the number of JOG times has gone down, it still happens roughly twice a week. After the last go 'round with the dealer (it wasn't pretty) I decided to just call it quits and live with JOG demon. After seeing the TSB released dated 20 April I am unsure whether or not to see if the dealer will do that fix. My husband says to forget it as it's too aggravating and I'll end up with an ulcer. He isn't the one driving. I want this issue resolved, not something that haunts me on a daily basis. Having had the entire transmission replaced in January is it worth trying this latest fix? Thanks!
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:56 AM   #309
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Yes, it is worth the fix! My JOG issues have ceased to exist since having the TSB work done. Just be sure they do the TSB work from the revision version of the TSB. That one replaces the 1st gear. But, whatever you do, don't give up!
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:38 PM   #310
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I am still waiting for parts and have filed for a buyback. They tell me my case is a good one. I have reported the issue to US and Canada DOT safety people so I have done my job, I would ask others to report their issues as well. Some of us have children who drive in the Jeeps as well so report it for their sakes. It is really funny as I used to tell everyone I drove a Jeep because it was fun and safe... lately it has been neither.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:17 PM   #311
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1st gear

My 09' wrangler was doing it all the time. I took it to the garage multiple times and they say they couldn't reproduce it. I then left the dealership and it did it right away. There is something obviously wrong with it. If you bitch enough they will replace the tranny. I had it in the garage multiple times for that and complained. They then said there are some problems with that tranny and I had a new one put in with in two days. If you are under warranty, just keep taking it back and trying to get them to ride with you.
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:03 PM   #312
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Chrysler ha finally agreed to put in a new transmission. They are claiming that they are waiting for the "new" model of transmission so obviously it is different (If you can believe them however I do not see the logic in lying about it) from Mopar and then they will schedule to install. I cannot help but believe that since I was approved to begin the buyback process (CAMVAP in Canada) that they changed their minds about screwing me around further since I have been going through this for close to 18 months now... I will continue the buyback option and get a new transmission installed once it is available. I will be sure to let everyone know if it works... fingers crossed.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:28 AM   #313
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I have an '09 Wrangler 6 speed sport and it pops out of gear from a dead stop at least once a day and my hand is NOT on the gear shift. It does it on it's own... maybe sometimes when there's more vibration. I don't know what causes it. It's agrivating and potentially dangerous.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:01 AM   #314
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I have an '09 Wrangler 6 speed sport and it pops out of gear from a dead stop at least once a day and my hand is NOT on the gear shift. It does it on it's own... maybe sometimes when there's more vibration. I don't know what causes it. It's agrivating and potentially dangerous.
Welcome to the forum...As to the reason why you have JOG, read this entire thread... It is all explained..Get it to your dealer for the fix...
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:34 AM   #315
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Nope... I am still waiting for an answer from Chrysler V.P For Quality.. Might never see an answer though..We"ll see...
After several kindly reminders, still no responses from Chrysler Management..I will try to find someone within the Detroit News or Detroit Free Press organization to give this issue some more visibility.. I just cannot understand how "blind" the Chrysler "system" is with regards to "the voice of the customer" (particularly, their bread and butter customer base)
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:53 AM   #316
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Hello all!

I have a JK rubicon unlimited CRD with the same problem. Unfortunately according the local dealer (Milan, Italy) seems that the material described in the TSB is not yet available (they asked also to Germany) and there is no plan about the availability...

The workaround they suggested me while waiting the spare parts is to down shift to the first gear so it willl be well engaged for the next acceleration... seems that works!!

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Old 05-20-2010, 09:26 PM   #317
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Hey all!!

I have a 2007 jeep jk 4dr took in in for a noise and bam they replaced my transmission. I was like cool a new trans right before my warranty went!! Not i have just inherited this wonderful problem. My question is the dealer is going to do the TSB for me what else should i have them do while the trans is out replace clutch through out barring realse barring shifter fork? Any help would be nice. I have 38000 miles on it. HAs anyone had the TSB done and dose it fix the JOG issue?

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Old 05-21-2010, 02:54 AM   #318
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Check the rubber boot on the shifter to see if it is causing a tight spot. if it is loosen the screws that hold the console and slide forward just a hair, it dont take much. If it has a lift, that will cause it to hit, It happened to mine only moved console bout 1/4 inch to solve the problem
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Check the rubber boot on the shifter to see if it is causing a tight spot. if it is loosen the screws that hold the console and slide forward just a hair, it dont take much. If it has a lift, that will cause it to hit, It happened to mine only moved console bout 1/4 inch to solve the problem
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:45 PM   #320
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Chrysler is pulling a fast one and have had my buyback denied due to a recall which I have not had done. Kinda funny as I bought a tow hitch over a year after purchasing the Jeep and now they have a recall on them apparently (the tow hitch). I am not sure what it has to do with my transmission JOG but good try at the loophole I guess (CAMVAP has a clause where they they will not procedd with a recall in effect). Chysler has just stooped to a new low. I am 4 weeks waiting for parts / new transmission as well... Love what Jeep used to stand for and hate what Chrysler is doing to the brand...
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Old 05-30-2010, 07:30 AM   #321
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New transmission is finally in... I hope it works so I can get back to enjoying my ride again... I have heard that even with new transmissions some have had the issue recur but the new ones are supposed to be redesigned so fingers are crossed.

USAntigoon any news on your reply?
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Old 05-30-2010, 01:20 PM   #322
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New transmission is finally in... I hope it works so I can get back to enjoying my ride again... I have heard that even with new transmissions some have had the issue recur but the new ones are supposed to be redesigned so fingers are crossed.

USAntigoon any news on your reply?
No... I am afraid they will never answer.. Chrysler is NOT a "customer driven" Company.. I explained in much details how important it is to stay in touch with the Wrangler Jeepers community.. They are their bread and butter..
I also used a very constructive and technical (facts driven) tone in my e-mails..(I do have the e-mail address of the VP for Quality)..
I even introduced myself in reference to my pre-retirement function with one of the other car companies....
Alas, to no avail Anyway, I have given it my best shot..

I believe the FIAT doctrine will become their downfall. They have been getting away with this attitude in Europe for years on end.. But this is the USA.....(my humble opinion...)
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:46 PM   #323
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2010 with about 4,000 miles has happened in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear...going to the dealer monday
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:56 AM   #324
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Still waiting on mine. Turns out the crank seal was out of it as well so it will be another week while the part comes in and they get it back together. So far I have had issues with the transmission popping out of gear. The front doors require excessive force to shut and it is bending the front panel ahead of the doors when they are closed. The motor now has a loud ticking noise coming from it. The back door latch needs adjustment on the passenger side as there is a thumping coming out of it when I hit bumps. the drivetrain has excessive backlash so it could be in the tranny or the drivetrain universals... they are checking. The front defroster opening is too small and it will not keep the windshield clear during certain winter driving conditions. The clutch throwout bearing has a constant noise when the clutch is disengaged (they are replacing this and the clutch and pressure plate with the new tranny). Now the back crank seal is leaking. All of this with a little over 16K miles on it... I will say again this particular 2008 is junk compared to my 2003 TJ... I cant say if they all are or I just got a lemon...
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:51 AM   #325
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I have a brand new 09 Unlimited X 4 door with 2700 miles. This past weekend the transmission popped out of first gear and into neutral when starting from a dead stop - have to immediately shift to second gear. This has happened 3 more times since. It has only happened when starting from a dead stop in first gear and depending on the RPM the popping out can be quite violent - enough to hurt your hand. First time it happened I thought someone had rear ended me. I have it scheduled at the dealer. Searching the web I have found that this seems to be a fairly common problem but I havent found the cure yet. Anyone have any insights?
I had the same problem with my brand new 09 2 door!! I went to two diffrent dealers and couldn't get them to duplicate the problem. So I decided to record the problem my self while driving. It tookk me 2 minutes in an empty prking lot to pop out of first gear 5 times. I put the recording on a DVD and gave it to the service manager of the Dealer and he saw it and called the Jeep service Rep. It took the 5 minutes to order a new Trans that was "built after Sep. 2009" in the Wrangler. Some Trans. built before Sep. 09 had shorter shift gates and promted a violent pop out. If you can do the same thing as I did otherwise you will be visiting alots of dealers!!! Good Luck
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Old 06-06-2010, 05:57 PM   #326
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I was told all transmissions made before May could be faulty due to quality issues and only the "new" new transmission is a workable fix for the issue. I got my info from Chrysler CS so use you own judgement and do your own research as they have been less than forthcoming on the issue thus far.
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:23 AM   #327
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I finally got the Jeep back this morning with the new transmission, clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing. It is absolutely incredible how much smoother it is, no more whining, no more mechanical looseness, and no JOG so far. For anyone having any issues with their transmissions, push for a new one because the improvement is beyond belief. I did not realize how bad the old one actually was until I got this one in. I am happy now
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So....they dealer just called and said they can't recreate the problem so until they do that they can't fix it! I told them about the TSB and they said they still had to recreate the problem to fix it. It has happened 4 times in 4800 miles - who knows when it will happen next. What do you guys suggest - leave it there untill they fix it?

Also, I have to replace the bumber b/c someone hit me in a parking lot they want $572 plus tax - seems high should I take it somewhere besides the dealer?
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Also, I have to replace the bumber b/c someone hit me in a parking lot they want $572 plus tax - seems high should I take it somewhere besides the dealer?
I believe I'd look seriously at replacing it with a BETTER aftermarket bumper for about that cost or less.
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:10 PM   #330
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I believe I'd look seriously at replacing it with a BETTER aftermarket bumper for about that cost or less.
^ this

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