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Old 03-13-2012, 05:40 PM   #1
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A crying shame..

My neighbors 08 JKUR was involved in a head on collision with a dodge 3500 late last night and the damage is unbelievable. The jeep is completely unrecognizable and looks like a steam roller ran the whole front end over. The driver of the truck was ejected( no belt) and airlifted to the hospital and is in stable condition thank god neighbor and wife nothing but a few scratches!... Anyways it gets worse my neighbor had a few drinks and was NOT ok to drive so he let his sober wife drive... She happens to be unlicensed... Insurance is calling it drivers neglect and denied his claim and will not pay a cent for his 25,000$ rubi ( btw it was the trucks fault trying to pass on solid yellow and didn't make it). I can't help but feel for the guy because it was just an accident wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong driver.

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:42 PM   #2
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Dang that sucks.....any salvageable parts?

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Old 03-13-2012, 05:48 PM   #3
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Yes, he needs money for another vehicle. That's pretty much why he knocked on the door this morning. Im gonna try and get his rear lockers if possible ( fronts destroyed). Nav screen if it still works but cracked on impact. Rear pavement end bumper maybe. And really anything that I could use and help him out with some cash
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Will a 08 nav screen work in a 07 with infinity? Will it just plug into the same port or am I gonna need to buy adapters etc?
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Will a 08 nav screen work in a 07 with infinity? Will it just plug into the same port or am I gonna need to buy adapters etc?
I'm not really sure. When I asked the dealer they said that the vin numbers were burned into those machines and they wouldn't always work... Then again this is just what the dealer told me so it could very well be false
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He should sell his soft top/hard top. Is his engine/tranny salvageable? He could always part that out too.

Is there ANY way that it can be fixed with another parts JK? Or is the frame twisted beyond belief?
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Was the other driver ticketed? If so he should file claim thru the other guys insurance. There is something else going on that your friends insurance company will not pay. Technically, though
His wife is not licensed, she would still be considered a household member thus able to drive the vehicle. Legally the insurance company can deny his claim because she was unlicensed. If I were you'd neighbor I would follow thru with the other company.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #9
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Your friend should seek out the advice of an attorney.
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Your friend should seek out the advice of an attorney.
Yeap.

Especially since he's going to be sued big time because of the other drivers serious injuries and his proportional liability due to his negligence in letting an unlicensed driver drive his vehicle.

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Your friend should seek out the advice of an attorney.
^^ This... Dont take anything apart until you get some legal advise
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-as if the voice of a single Jeep cried out in terror...and was suddenly silenced?

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Old 03-13-2012, 07:27 PM   #13
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It's always sad when they meet an early demise.
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dang. let us know what hes selling and if we can help him out
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( btw it was the trucks fault trying to pass on solid yellow and didn't make it)
Definitely follow an attorney's advice, but that bit I just quoted above should be enough to put the other driver totally at fault, or enough that THEIR insurance has to pay, not your friend's. Solid yellow or not, passing like that on a two lane road I thought it was supposed to be totally on the person passing to do it safely and not cause an accident. Passing a solid at all is totally illegal though and should definitely make them at fault and responsible, IMO at least.
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^^^ by OP's description, truck passed unsafely and illegally. But, the Jeep owner will probably be found to have some proportional liability because allowing and unlicensed driver to drive his Jeep in also negligent and illegal. It sounds like a typical case of shared negligence. So, it's likely the Jeep driver will be paying a proportion of the truck drivers damages, and the truck driver will be paying some portion of the Jeep owners losses. I'm guessing that the Jeep drivers portion of the truck driver's medical expenses is going to be much larger than the truck drivers share of the Jeep owners loss.

Jeep driver has a real problem and had better retain an attorney!
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Passing a solid at all is totally illegal though and should definitely make them at fault and responsible, IMO at least.
Unfortunately in this case they would have to see who is more at fault. Being drunk and being unlicensed trumps passing in a double yellow. I know she wasn't drinking but if she has her learners permit or something, he still has to be sober.

Needless to say with 25k at stake it's absolutely worth talking to a lawyer
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Unfortunately in this case they would have to see who is more at fault. Being drunk and being unlicensed trumps passing in a double yellow. I know she wasn't drinking but if she has her learners permit or something, he still has to be sober.

Needless to say with 25k at stake it's absolutely worth talking to a lawyer
Adding in the med bills, it will be more than 25k at stake.
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Guess it may vary state to state, but I believe insurance follows the vehicle ......not who is driving it. Consult a lawyer.
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If the front axle is bad, I assume the front diso/swaybar isn't good either?
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Saying she is unlicensed has no weight. A good attorney will get him a new Rubi and more.
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If will all come down to the police report. If there are no citations then you are looking at 50/50 or no fault. In that case being unlicensed will trump and they will be denied.
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Saying she is unlicensed has no weight. A good attorney will get him a new Rubi and more.
Unfortunately It does with my policy. My insurance will cover any licensed member of my family. It also says under things that void it: no/suspended license, DUI and other things

For this guys sake tho I hope his policy is different
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Old 03-13-2012, 10:14 PM   #25
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Yeah this situation is very unfortunate. I just thoroughly went over the jeep at the impound lot. Engine is not salvageable, front disco and all front end components are trashed. Tops good tranny maybe. Frames looks like king long twisted it which makes me doubt the rear lockers being salvaged just because the impact of the 75mph hit. I did tell him to seek legal advice but he's still pretty level headed I think he needs a few days to think. I'm just baffled how buddy isn't in the hospital I actually felt a weird sense of pride in jeeps seeing it and how it was able to protect them it truly did its justice because in alot of other vehicles people would of died.
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I actually felt a weird sense of pride in jeeps seeing it and how it was able to protect them it truly did its justice because in alot of other vehicles people would of died.
A lot of times the wranglers have significantly less damage too. It was just unfortunate he hit such a huge truck
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Yeah I seen the 3500 his was pretty was as well upon buddy's ejection of sometime
In between the truck spun into the ditch and and the rear was banged up. My girlfriend and I girlfriend both agreed she would give up her patriot until he could get a rental car or an alternate solution to get to work because hey that's what good neighbors/ fellow Jeepers do for each other. He only has 1 condition.. No unlicensed wife!
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If it is obvious (police report, witnesses, accident scene photos) that the truck was in your neighbor's lane when the head-on happened, it's hard to imagine how his allowing an unlicensed driver to drive contributed much to this "accident." I'd guess he'll come out OK, if he has a good attorney. Still going to be an expensive lesson though.
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Passing a solid at all is totally illegal
Not always the case, depends on the state.


The other driver's insurance will likely step up and cover everything but unless he's got some level of comfort or experience in these types of things (based on this thread, I doubt it). He should get a lawyer, there is more at stake here than just a Jeep.

You don't want to sign away all your future rights for a $25k check only to slam into $50k worth of related medical bills six months from now.

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