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A european take on Tyres (or now for something completely different)

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I hope that I am going to post some pics (with the wife's help) of the Winter Tyres that I have just fitted prematurely. They replace a set of Bridgestone Dueler HTs in size 245/75R X 16 They are Goodyear G90 Radial Light Truck in 7.50R X 16 I am expecting comment, but before you do, my situation and circumstances require a tyre like this......I travel mostly 2 types of trail, sharp small stones and mud (clinging clay like mud when wet) I have had great service from G90s in this size on a Pinzgauer 710K and also on a Series 2 Landrover which had a Turbo diesel and would cruise happily at 80 MPH. I had good off road Grip and good road manners....plus on the Pinz although not a daily driver, I have never had a puncture in 7 years.
 

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Looks kinda like a modern version of the original military tires that came on MBs and such. They're narrow, but at least they're short! Those should really claw through the mud and snow, though.
 
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My wife is currently running tires with a very similar pattern (hers are just ever so slightly more AT-ish than MT-ish, though) but in a 175/80/16 (which I think is about a 27" X 7") on her Niva. I do want her to go a bit taller when it is time to replace these, but that is a long way off.
I don't think that there are too many here on this forum who fully understand the good reasoning behind such a choice - big fat 35s look a lot tougher. But these really dig down and do the job in muddy conditions and deliver good handling on dirt, gravel, moss, or asphalt.

*glad to see that you are enjoying the 'new' Wrangler; though I secretly wouldn't have minded seeing some action pics of a new Hunter.
 
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I run tall/skinny too (255/80-17) and I'd run those if they came in a 33".
Skinnies rule the mud.
 
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Yep, a good way to get through mud is with a tire that digs down to find firmer ground. The problem arises, as in this area, when there isn't any firmer ground underneath! Especially after we've had record rain last month. Same thing with snow. Flotation works until you stop, then it's nice to have skinnies to dig down again.
 
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Bottomless mud is a hassle...
 
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I tried the "Big and WIde" on the TJ (33"s x 12.5" on 15"s) Duratracs, and while they "worked", I also questioned what I "lost" in MPG and street use.

I did like the Duratrac tread pattern and they did well as I said. When I went to build the JK I went Duratracs in the "stock size". No regear needed, no new wheels, no needing to flashcal or new TPS. Saved a lot of money, and so far so good. Next few years will tell me if I made the right choice.
 
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Tall and skinny is also good for fuel mileage. Anyone ever see some of the old film clips of Model T's bouncing and fighting through the mud that passed for streets back in the day. Very tall and very skinny tires with little if any tread, yet they made it and without four wheel drive or ever limited slip. Just plain good old one wheel drive.
 
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Gentlemen and Scholars all, I thank you for your indugence....this was not a Norwegian Blue!!! and yes a Monty Python Fan for as long as I can remember....even before that there was actually a TV programme called 'And now for something completely different'. But seriously, these G90s are the tyres for this place....they do dig and they do bite, they make it so much easier for my Wrangler to shine. In my area (county/state) there is only one other Jeep Wrangler and the guy bought it as a fashion statement, it has not touched dirt in the 5 years I have lived here!!! I wheel!!I am an old time Landrover driver, ex British Army...been driving Landrovers since I was 11 years old...circa late 60,s....and this is my first Jeep! (I did get to drive one of those Hotchkiss things once (French copy)) circa 1975 at 'Camp Caylus' in France...but I doubt that counts? I have owned 5 Landrovers before this Jeep and this is sheer luxury......Yes one of you knows that it was almost a UAZ Hunter.....I was looking for an UAZ Hunter, but the dealers were being silly....Damn I would like to be affluent enough to own Both and invite some of you here to sample the differences. I may still add a New UAZ Hunter Diesel to my stable....but maybe in a couple of years when the Ukraine situation calms down. I am sure that this Jeep will be replaced with another and it will be a diesel, maybe a 4 door. Back to these tyres.....they are great on rocks for those of you that do rock crawling.....(People will say damn how does he do it on those skinny things?) To sing it,s praises, the G90 is made in South Africa, and if you think the roads in your state are bad...try just about anywhere in South Africa!!! the HT Duelers I took off were 2 Ply sidewalls and tread...so maybe 4 ply...the G90 is 10 Ply!!! I will report on how they are on the Wrangler over the next 6 months, which will include a Polish winter (can be -30c for weeks) The British Army Use the G90 on the heavier versions of the Landrover and the Polish Army use the G90 on it,s Tarpan Honker. (ps...sound system is great on the Wrangler and I listen to Tom Petty and Creedence Clearwater Revival..they seem to fit the Jeep.
 
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