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Old 10-20-2013, 05:29 PM   #1
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Question A tire for 90% of the time

My Unlimited Rubicon came with BFG Mud-Terrain tires. The MTs are fine for serious off-road, but that’s only 10% of my driving. Mostly it lives in the SF Bay Area; commuting, running easy trails, pulling trailers and frequent ski trips into the Sierra Nevada Mountains. The problem is that the MT is not a very good tire for most of these activities. I need a primary tire to address most of my needs; the MTs can hang out in the garage until needed. Anyone have experience with Goodyear Wrangler SilentArmor?

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Old 10-20-2013, 07:47 PM   #2
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No experience with the Goodyear but if BFG All Terrain T/A KO is available in your size they are a good all around tire, good in snow. They are not good in mud but thats why they make the Mud Terrain.

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GY duratrac. Great in the snow and good for most everything. The only real downside for the total package is the sidewalls are a little light so for a lot of rock crawling they are not the best.
The BFG's mentioned above the AT's are great also but I think for snow the GY's are a little better.
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Old 10-20-2013, 07:58 PM   #4
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I have goodyear SR-A tires and those are good. The reviews on the Silent Armor are good too. Thinking about getting those
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:04 PM   #5
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I have a set of Silent Armors on my 08 JKU. It's a great tire all around tire, does well in wet and slippery conditions.

It is the only tire I don't change out for winter months. Good choice for a DD.
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Depends on how much snow you may encounter.. The GY Duratracs are winter rated yet can still be driven year round.
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Old 10-20-2013, 08:26 PM   #7
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Some good choices are listed above. If you want great road performance and very good traction on trails the KOs last forever. The Duratracs are also great but equivalent to your MTs

Silent Armors get very good road reviews but may be marginal on trails.
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:14 PM   #8
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Firestone Destination AT are excellent on highway, silent, comfortable, durable, good rain and light snow traction, and rugged enough for occasional off-road use. Check them on tirerack.com. They are among top rated on-road/off-road tires. And they won't break your bank like many other premium brands.
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The Duratracs are also great but equivalent to your MTs
What do you mean by "equivalent"?

Duratracs are nothing like MTs...
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:03 AM   #10
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IMHO, the Goodyear Duratrac and Toyo Open Country AT II are both excellent tires that work well for a daily driver, but you can also take them out and play weekend warrior. I currently have the Duratracs and they are nothing like the BFG KMs. The BFG KMs do not perform well in rain or on icy roads and quite frankly they are not a comfortable ride and the tread life leaves something to be desired. My overall performance improved considerably when I went to the Duratracs. My weekend buddy rolls with the Toyos and loves them and they are more reasonably priced than the Duratracs. They also come with a 50k to 60k warranty depending on the size you select.
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:13 AM   #11
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I got the ATII's based on reviews, price, and 50K warranty. I do less then 10K a year and I'm perfectly happy spending 1200 bucks for 5 years of tire use. So far no off road on the ATII's so that will have to wait until I make it to Rausch Creek sometime soon but so far on road they are quieter and more comfortable. No rain or snow experience in the ATII's yet but as soon as it rains I can't wait to see if there is a significant difference compared to my Jeeps stock KM2's which required some very careful throttle manipulation.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:47 AM   #13
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Mickey Thompson Baja. Costly but a great all round tire.
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What do you mean by "equivalent"?

Duratracs are nothing like MTs...
You are right, I like the Duratrac's a lot but they do not provide the off road traction of the MTs .

They wear well but the noise/traction ratio is relatively high. I personally like their road feel.
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:46 AM   #15
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Go look at TreadWrights.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:51 AM   #16
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I ran the 315 Duratracs for a year... awesome tire on and off road! Easily my favorite AT tire.

I'm now running BIG AT T/A KO's in 37", They have a slightly stiffer ride, but they are quiet and have fantastic traction for an AT on and off road, as well.

I've also heard great things about both the Falcon Wildpeaks and Toyos.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:00 AM   #17
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Firestone Destination AT are excellent on highway, silent, comfortable, durable, good rain and light snow traction, and rugged enough for occasional off-road use. Check them on tirerack.com. They are among top rated on-road/off-road tires. And they won't break your bank like many other premium brands.
These are great tires. I have them on our Blazer and they are very good in snow.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:01 AM   #18
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Yokohama Geolander AT's. Great tire and quiet on paved roads.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:04 AM   #19
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I'm new to Wrangler...and looking to put a good all year round tire with more rubber on my existing 16" rims. I have the standard 225R75 16's. It seems like the most liked is the Duratracs and Toyo. Any comments on General or Coopers? Any suggestions?
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:47 AM   #20
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KarneyB,

Consider a set of takeoffs from another new wrangler. You can get a nice set (wheels and tires) for $400 - $500 and you'll have nicer allow wheels.

The TPMS frequency did change in 2013 so get the correct year.

You'll save a few hundred $$ and be happier with the look.
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:43 PM   #21
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I'm running the 315/17 Duratracs. I'm amazed that such an aggressive looking tire could be so quiet. I put Cooper Discover AT/3's on my Tacoma based on good reports. They are less aggressive looking than the Duratracs, but also less expensive. I've had them about a year and they're wearing well.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:35 PM   #22
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AT KO!!!!! Long-lasting, great in the snow, puncture resistant for an AT.
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Yokohama Geolander AT's. Great tire and quiet on paved roads.
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I love mine. Not to mention they are fairly cheap too. I'm at 45k now and could easily ht 55-60k on them but with winter coming I have to replace them prematurely as I go out in every single blizzard and snow storm.

I'm between the yokos again or the bfg at ko for my next tire purchase. At 15k miles a year I wish I was 10% off road. Reality is I'm probably 2-3% off road which is still 300 or so jeep miles a year
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KarneyB,

Consider a set of takeoffs from another new wrangler. You can get a nice set (wheels and tires) for $400 - $500 and you'll have nicer allow wheels.

The TPMS frequency did change in 2013 so get the correct year.

You'll save a few hundred $$ and be happier with the look.
Do you happen to know if they changed the TPMS again in 2014? I have a set of 2013 sensors I'm trying to sell...
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It seems Duratracs are the preferred Jeeper tire up North here - tried to get a set and the 30/31s are back ordered into December - what does that say?


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Old 10-21-2013, 11:00 PM   #26
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I've had Silent Armor's on my '06 Liberty CRD since not long after I bought it new. They have been really great. A nice all terrain middle road between the stock street tires and something like the Duratracs. Very quiet on the highway, really good grip in all conditions, they seemed to wear quite well and evenly. I don't wheel with the Liberty much at all, just real light and not very often. So the SA's are a very good fit for my uses.

I think a good indicator of whether something is a good quality product is if the people who have bought them previously and lived with them for a good long while, would purchase the same thing again when its time to replace them. Provided their needs and uses haven't changed over that time of course. I can say very confidently that I definitely would buy another set, and wouldn't have a minute's worth of regret over it.
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It seems Duratracs are the preferred Jeeper tire up North here - tried to get a set and the 30/31s are back ordered into December - what does that say?


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That's what I see on most as well so that doesn't surprise me.
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Do you happen to know if they changed the TPMS again in 2014? I have a set of 2013 sensors I'm trying to sell...
Unfortunately I'm not sure.
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Question Duratracs

Okay I'm 80% sure that I'm going to put the Duratracs on, thanks to all of your input. Not having much luck finding any takeoffs at this point though. Based on warranty for a 2014 JK they (Chrysler) state one tire size either way which I interpreted as rim sizes (down to 15" or up to 17") vs just tire sizes, meaning, I can put 245/75's on my 16" stock wheels (225/75). Does anyone know how this will affect the handling, brakes, etc?, other than a bit lower revs which I understand from research.
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Okay I'm 80% sure that I'm going to put the Duratracs on, thanks to all of your input. Not having much luck finding any takeoffs at this point though. Based on warranty for a 2014 JK they (Chrysler) state one tire size either way which I interpreted as rim sizes (down to 15" or up to 17") vs just tire sizes, meaning, I can put 245/75's on my 16" stock wheels (225/75). Does anyone know how this will affect the handling, brakes, etc?, other than a bit lower revs which I understand from research.
What are you talking about with tire size vs warranty?

I have NEVER heard of a warranty claim being denied based on tire size, so I'm confused as to why you think you'd need to stay within some sort of range...?

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