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Old 02-23-2012, 12:56 AM   #1
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Well, unfortunately got into my first accident. I am okay as well as the other people in the other car. Fortunately it wasnt a bad accident it was mainly a fender bender on steroids. Anywho...i tried swirving due to the person in front of me jamming intentionally on their breaks and collided the front left of my jeep with the back right of their car...my bumper caved in and the fender cracked in half. I was curious, how much does a new fender cost. My plan with the bumper is to order little "stumpy" ends for it that i plan to cut off the rest, but there is metal within the bumper that shifted, i was wondering if there is a way to re align it, i will post pictures to make what i am talking about easier to imagine. So...
1) how much does it cost for a new fender (sahara) black
2) Re aligning metal under bumper
3) im sure it varies, but how much would it cost to get the cars allignment checked out and fixed, the steering wheel when held straight does not allow the jeep to move straight. Im sure it depend what is bent/broken, just looking for a general ball park. Any info provided will be greatly appreciated

Kind of disappointed in the fact that my jeep has 95% of the damage and their '99 VW hatchback had about a scrap and maybe a little glue to fix it up good, but thats the way she goes i guess

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Oh noooo! I'm sorry! I'm glad ur ok tho!
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Why would they "jam intentionally on their breaks"? I'm wondering who got the ticket (if any)?
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Two words, steel bumper. If they are going to slam their brakes on, they must be made to pay
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Old 02-23-2012, 01:58 AM   #7
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Why would they "jam intentionally on their breaks"? I'm wondering who got the ticket (if any)?
from the description of the accident, our poor Jeeping friend got the ticket due to the fact that a driver MUST allow enough space between him and the vehicle in front of him to avoid hitting in case of sudden braking. Most states call it "following too closely." Of course, there may be more to the story.
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Sounds like someone got a brake check! I hate it when someone is tailgating! I have never brake checked anyone but I sure would love to sometimes!

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There are three parts to the fender assembly. There's the fender flare (the outer part), the fender liner (in the wheel well), and hard plastic horizontal support piece.

I think the fender flare costs about $80-$90. You definitely need one of those. The other two pieces cost $100-something each. The fender liner is very flexible, and may not have gotten damaged in the accident. The support piece may have broke though. Check it.

Then there are the various clips/pins, which can get rather expensive too. There are three types used in the fender assembly. I think there are about 8 of the rectangle clips and one round clip in the front that hold the whole fender assembly to the body. These clips break easily, so you will likely need several of them. Then there are some round, 2-piece, locking push pins that hold the liner to the flare. I think there are about 6-8 of these.

Now about the alignment. If your steering wheel is not centered, just take a 15mm wrench to the two nuts on the drag link turn buckle. Loosen (don't remove) the two nuts, then rotate the turn buckle one way or the other until the steering wheel is straight when the tires are straight.

If your tire actually got hit, there could be other problems. Your track bar, tie rod ends or ball joints could have gotten damaged. A damaged track bar or ball joints could result in death wobble. Damaged tie rod ends could lead to alignment issues making it difficult to keep the Jeep going straight.

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Damn, If I had to drive in long island much, I'd have me one of those 200lb steel cow catcher bumpers for just such an occasion
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The fender/bumpers are made cheap to take a hit. Tree/rocks Stubby that front bumper and browse CL for some take-off fenders or bumper. Glad it's not a TJ/Yj

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Old 02-23-2012, 07:28 AM   #14
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The plastic bumpers are pretty mush useless. I got tapped in a parking lot and my alarm didnt even go off but my bumper was sliced open. Metal Bumpers on the way!!!!!
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Get a 1/4" box steel bumper and go hit them again.
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Well, unfortunately got into my first accident. I am okay as well as the other people in the other car. Fortunately it wasnt a bad accident it was mainly a fender bender on steroids. Anywho...i tried swirving due to the person in front of me jamming intentionally on their breaks and collided the front left of my jeep with the back right of their car...my bumper caved in and the fender cracked in half. I was curious, how much does a new fender cost. My plan with the bumper is to order little "stumpy" ends for it that i plan to cut off the rest, but there is metal within the bumper that shifted, i was wondering if there is a way to re align it, i will post pictures to make what i am talking about easier to imagine. So...
1) how much does it cost for a new fender (sahara) black
2) Re aligning metal under bumper
3) im sure it varies, but how much would it cost to get the cars allignment checked out and fixed, the steering wheel when held straight does not allow the jeep to move straight. Im sure it depend what is bent/broken, just looking for a general ball park. Any info provided will be greatly appreciated

Kind of disappointed in the fact that my jeep has 95% of the damage and their '99 VW hatchback had about a scrap and maybe a little glue to fix it up good, but thats the way she goes i guess
I would have beat them beyond all reckognition, and drove off
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Sounds like someone got a brake check! I hate it when someone is tailgating! I have never brake checked anyone but I sure would love to sometimes!

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This I hate when someone is tailgating. Sorry about your Jeep tho
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Replace all with aftermarket - don't spend a dime on factory crap. Some Bushwhacker flat fenders & a set of steel bumpers will fix you right up.

As for the tire, I wouldn't mess with the alignment. A front end alignment is round about $60 at most service centers (I just had one done). But as was previously mentioned, you may have broken a tie rod, ball joint or other such component which would make your rig a tad difficult to manage down the road as well as unsafe.

Is your insurance company involved? That's going to determine much of how & where things go from here...
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I guarantee there is a lot more damage to their car that you are not seeing. My Mercedes was rear ended. No visible damage to the bumper/body. But get on the ground and crawl under to notice the metal bumper support was crushed in to the spare tire well. Spare tire broke free from the mount. Plastic part of the bumper actually shifted about 1" in. It was a mess, about $4000 in non-visible damage.

OP can buy a replacement bumper off craigslist for like $75. Probably a fender as well for cheap. I bet that car has thousands in damage you don't see.
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Heeeello 35s and new metal bumper!
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That's what I'm talking about!
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Ouch theres a reason i have solid steel tube front bumpers even though they weith 500lbs they can take about and i drove through a crapy toyota prius at 50 mph and did no damage at all to the yj drove away from the accident lmao totaled that plastic car
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The fender/bumpers are made cheap to take a hit. Tree/rocks Stubby that front bumper and browse CL for some take-off fenders or bumper. Glad it's not a TJ/Yj

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whats wrong with the fenders on a yj? i take a hit and just hammer out any dents that might occur, better than shelling out like $300 for one fender
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I hadn't thought about smashing into the back of someones car to get new mods lately. Seriously, I'm so driving over the first car I see this afternoon. Wish me luck!
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I hadn't thought about smashing into the back of someones car to get new mods lately. Seriously, I'm so driving over the first car I see this afternoon. Wish me luck!

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...person in front of me jamming intentionally on their breaks
Sounds like a "Road Rage" incident. If they jammed on their brakes intentionally then it means that you were driving too close. If you were driving too close then that probably means either there was a back and forth between you and the other driver or that you just aggressively tailgate people. Either way you hit them from behind and its 100% your fault. Next time I'm sure you'll either let idiots drive away without gutting sucked into the road rage OR your learn to properly give enough space between you and the vehicle in front. Unfortunately a nice new jeep paid the price for your lesson.

For the record, I also live/drive on Long Island. Like many other parts of the country I constantly see overly aggressive or distracted drivers, I have learned to steer as far away from them and avoid situations like this, in the end its not worth it.
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whats wrong with the fenders on a yj? i take a hit and just hammer out any dents that might occur, better than shelling out like $300 for one fender
You do have a point. Tj too
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