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Old 07-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #1
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Ace Rock Sliders

So from the reading I've done on here Ace Rock Sliders appear to be the best rails hands down for the money.

I convinced myself into buying the bolt-ons a few weeks ago, but driving around the city I always see trucks where the step bars are bent down from years of use. Seeing as these bolt to the body, has anyone ever seen the rails or even the body sag after a few years of use?

I'm not questioning Ace's quality, I've never heard such good praise about a product. Just more of a question of longevity.

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These bolt to the frame at the body mounts, NOT the body.

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Won't happen. Have had mine for a year, they're solid.
PM Jason at Krawl offroad and see if he'll give you a few bucks off for being a forum member.
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Old 07-03-2012, 09:38 PM   #4
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Alright, alright I'm sold. Sent Jason a PM.

...Now for those Rubi rails....
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Sliders purchased. Thanks for the heads up about Krawl Offroad damndirtydog and thanks to Jason at Krawl Off-road too!
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #6
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My ACE rock sliders

Here are photos of my Jeep with ACE rock sliders and Rubicon rails. My shoe size is 12 for comparison in that photo.
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Thanks for the pic stan, your jeep looks great.

I'm having some difficulty getting my hands on some rubicon rails at the moment, hard to imagine the ace rails without them.
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Just bought my '12 Sport S 29Jun. I need to get me a set of those rails, best looking rails I have seen to date. Is Jason at Krawl offroad the best place to aquire them?
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Yep!

The easiest way to find him is to click on my profile and check out my friends. If you send him a PM is pretty quick to get back.
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Thanks for the pic stan, your jeep looks great.

I'm having some difficulty getting my hands on some rubicon rails at the moment, hard to imagine the ace rails without them.
I just bought mine at my Dealership Parts Dept. You can also find them thru Quadratech, but the are more expensive than the dealer. The Rubicon rails come as a set with all necessary fasteners. One thing I'll point out, I went directly to ACE, I live about 7 miles from their factory. Adam at ACE made my rails without any "lift" so it would be easier for my old knees to get in my Jeep.
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Also call shops that do lifts/Jeep work if you're looking for the Rubi rails. Lots of people just don't ask for them back, so they sell them. The shop that did my lift sold some to a buddy of mine for $140 with hardware.

I paid $125 for mine through the classifieds, but they didn't come with hardware.
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Just bought a set of rubi rails from a dude, with no hardware at all. Couple of questions for you experienced folks:

1) What am I missing, in terms of hardware for the rubi rails? I thought they just bolted to the body bolts like the ACE sliders?

2) When installing both the rubi rails and ACE sliders, anything specific I should know? Or do you just follow the simple ACE directions but sort of add the rubi rails between the sliders and the frame?

I hope this all makes sense. Thanks!
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Just bought a set of rubi rails from a dude, with no hardware at all. Couple of questions for you experienced folks:

1) What am I missing, in terms of hardware for the rubi rails? I thought they just bolted to the body bolts like the ACE sliders?

2) When installing both the rubi rails and ACE sliders, anything specific I should know? Or do you just follow the simple ACE directions but sort of add the rubi rails between the sliders and the frame?

I hope this all makes sense. Thanks!


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They say a pictures is worth a thousand words, well here's two pictures. Hope this helps
Perfect- thanks. I guess I have time to try to hunt down those bolts and clips while I wait for my 2013...
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Also call shops that do lifts/Jeep work if you're looking for the Rubi rails. Lots of people just don't ask for them back, so they sell them. The shop that did my lift sold some to a buddy of mine for $140 with hardware.

I paid $125 for mine through the classifieds, but they didn't come with hardware.
I don't suppose that you or anyone else here could tell me where I might find this hardware? Any hints?
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I don't suppose that you or anyone else here could tell me where I might find this hardware? Any hints?
You can get everything from Fastenal. Here's a copy of what I ordered:

MF2580025PF0000
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M8-1.25 x 25mm DIN 6921 Class 10.9 Plain Flange Bolt
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M8-1.25 DIN 6923 Steel Class 8 Zinc Flange Nut
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M8-1.25 Panel Range: .8mm - 4mm Center 14.5mm Extruded U Nut
25

You won't need as many as I ordered, I ordered extras just in case. I think for the 4 door, it's like 4 bolts and flanges nuts per side + 2 or 3 of the U nuts. The U nuts were less expensive to just order a pack of 25.

Not sure about the install, I was going to do it myself. Then when negotiating my lift install, got them to do it for free.
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You can get everything from Fastenal. Here's a copy of what I ordered:

MF2580025PF0000
10 X
M8-1.25 x 25mm DIN 6921 Class 10.9 Plain Flange Bolt
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90701


14 X
M8-1.25 DIN 6923 Steel Class 8 Zinc Flange Nut
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0162867

1 X
M8-1.25 Panel Range: .8mm - 4mm Center 14.5mm Extruded U Nut
25

You won't need as many as I ordered, I ordered extras just in case. I think for the 4 door, it's like 4 bolts and flanges nuts per side + 2 or 3 of the U nuts. The U nuts were less expensive to just order a pack of 25.

Not sure about the install, I was going to do it myself. Then when negotiating my lift install, got them to do it for free.
This could not have been more helpful. Thanks so much!
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This could not have been more helpful. Thanks so much!
Anytime!

There's also a PDF somewhere that has a diagram of where everything is supposed to go. Not real helpful, no words, just a diagram. Does show where the U bolts go though. I think it was an official Mopar diagram.
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Found it! Shows the actual number of bolts/nuts needed too. See attached PDF.
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You may not need the clips on the 2013 my 12 had the threaded nuts already installed. They do not appear to be clips they look like they are pressed into the body.
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The clips are for the front two body bolts, the rear bolt goes into a captive fastener already in the body. The Rubi Rails mount in the same locations as the Sahara steps, so if you have a Sahara, you already have the fasteners. Note: tighten the nuts to the body pinch weld first, then tighten the bolts going into the frame rails.
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Found it! Shows the actual number of bolts/nuts needed too. See attached PDF.
Awesome! Thanks again!
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Thanks for all the tips on this thread. My 2013 is a Sport, so I guess we'll just wait and see whether the clips I just ordered from Fastenal will be necessary.

Also, I just PMed Jason at Krawl Off-Road (Jeep Wrangler Forum - View Profile: KrawlOff-Road.com) and he gave me a great shipping price on some 4-door ACE rock sliders. I highly recommend that anyone buying these things do it through him!
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If you live near Northridge 4x4, shoot David an email. Their price has shipping costs built in, and he may knock off some $ for local pickup. I grabbed my 4dr ACE rails at their recent open house (10% off sale) for $260.
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I have been trying to get a hold of Jason at Krawl, does anyone know if he is out for awhile or what? I need some of these rails for my Jeep!
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I'm new to this stuff. I've seen many mentions of having Rubi-rails and Ace sliders and they can coexist just fine. When I see pictures, I can't tell which is the Rubi-rail and which is the ace slider. Is the Rubi-rail exactly as pictured in the PDF above? Just a long bar that goes under the body, can't be seen and protects the underside? Where the Ace slider come out horizontally and protect it from the side and can be used as steps?
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I'm new to this stuff. I've seen many mentions of having Rubi-rails and Ace sliders and they can coexist just fine. When I see pictures, I can't tell which is the Rubi-rail and which is the ace slider. Is the Rubi-rail exactly as pictured in the PDF above? Just a long bar that goes under the body, can't be seen and protects the underside? Where the Ace slider come out horizontally and protect it from the side and can be used as steps?
The rubi rail just fills in the gap between the slider/step and the sill under the door. The slider is the only truely functional part. When I get mine installed I will post pics, here is a link to the sliders ACE Engineering JK 2Dr. Rock Sliders
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I'm new to this stuff. I've seen many mentions of having Rubi-rails and Ace sliders and they can coexist just fine. When I see pictures, I can't tell which is the Rubi-rail and which is the ace slider. Is the Rubi-rail exactly as pictured in the PDF above? Just a long bar that goes under the body, can't be seen and protects the underside? Where the Ace slider come out horizontally and protect it from the side and can be used as steps?
The Rubi Rails are a "heavy" metal bar mounted right next to the body. The ACE rails are welded tubing that mounts to the body mounts below the Rubi rails. See photo below:

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I have been trying to get a hold of Jason at Krawl, does anyone know if he is out for awhile or what? I need some of these rails for my Jeep!
He is a very busy man, try to PM him thru here, if you havent already. Can always call him directly as well.
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He is a very busy man, try to PM him thru here, if you havent already. Can always call him directly as well.
Does he own krawl? I did send him a PM as I am sure many of us do. From the krawl offroad website prices and the products they carry I am sure he is busy. You could build a wicked jeep on a reasonable budget through there!

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