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Old 11-04-2012, 11:20 AM   #1
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AEV Procal - Warranty Issues

I had to take my 2012 rubi in to the dealer when I had only had it for a couple of weeks because I had a red light intermittently coming on just above the temp gauge and the Jeep didn't want to start at times. It would begin to crank over, stop, start again etc. It never left me stranded but I was pretty unhappy about since it was a new jeep. Also I would lose my audio settings and the radio would be playing something completely different than what I was last listening to when I got into it the next time.

I took it in to the dealer and they found a plug on the end of my clutch assembly that 'had a pin pushed out'. This is all I could get out of the service rep, he didn't seem to know what he was talking about. Also, they replaced a module that is in the steering column and gave me some new keys. Once I got the Jeep back, it didn't have any more problems from what I saw.

At this point I felt pretty safe and began modding. Lifted the Jeep and added 37's, bumpers, rock rails, etc. and started doing some wheeling. I used an AEV Procal to dial in for tire size and set my TPMS threshold to zero. Everything was fine until a couple of weeks ago when it started acting up again. The same red light on the dash was intermittently coming on and it had the same starting issues.

I took the Jeep in and they had it for a few days and called me and told me to come on in and pick it up. I went in, grabbed the keys, and the Jeep would not start at all. They took it back iin, kept it another week, and called me and told me they had to replace some 'restricted' part in the fuse box and to come pick it up.

Like an IDIOT I took my AEV procal with me to get the speedo corrected and reset the threshold for TPMS before I left and the service manager got wind of me using it. Now they are saying that they will be looking at the module that was replaced and if they determine that it has different code on it or caused the failure of the part I'll be responsible for everything. I have told them that the Procal only changes settings that already exist, and besides, I had the same issue before I ever used it.

To add to all of this, my Jeep continues to have the same problem as before. Yesterday morning my key fob even stopped working but started working again later in the day. I am convinced there is a short somewhere in the system as the light seems to most often trigger by me pushing in the clutch pedal although the light will come on at times when hitting a bump while driving down the road.

So...a couple of things.
-Never use your procal at the dealer unless they are super cool
-Has anyone else had this issue and found a resolution?

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Old 11-04-2012, 11:39 AM   #2
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Sounds like the vehicle theft system is being activated,I remeber way back 12 years ago when i worked for jeep,we had a problem with the mobil gas station flash pass,things(i dont rember the exact name)the little black thing would hang on you key ring and cause the skim key(your car key)to send out the wrong signal causing the vehicle to start and die.And the clutch saftey switch has to be enguaged before the theft module enguages the starter.

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Old 11-04-2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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I have a Procal and I've been worried about the same kind of situation but thankfully my otherwise stock 2012 is working OK.

I think if it was me I'd bring the Procal and the Procal instructions with the Jeep to the service department and tell them you are willing to completely remove it if it would eliminate any concerns of theirs that it is somehow behind the electrical problems you're experiencing. Tell them they can use the Procal to return the system to stock, or if that doesn't satisfy them, that you are willing to pay for a complete reflash of the Jeep to stock settings. Whatever it takes to get the warranty back in force.

I don't think the Procal is the problem but you need your Jeep fixed and if they're using the Procal as an excuse you might as well (temporarily) get rid of it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:10 PM   #4
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Sounds to me they are trying to get your money. Is it a small dealer? If so its not uncommon for a dealer to bill warranty work and then find any stupid user initiated reason to make you pay. They get your money and Jeep's. I've seen several dealers, including mine who sells plenty of mopar lifted Jeeps, use the Procal to correct post lift and tires. I would find another dealer since its still not right if it's an option.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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I haven't checked the dip-switch settings lately, but I believe there is a ProCal setting to restore factory defaults.

I would set it back to factory defaults before ever letting the dealer perform warranty work...not that hard to restore the settings later.
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