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Old 03-22-2012, 09:12 AM   #1
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AEV Turn Key Package or 'Roll Your Own'

OK, Been set on getting the AEV hood since I got my BFG JK about a month ago, then I started thinking that I'm not too pleased with the stock 3.21 gearing (which I thought was automatically upgraded to the 3.71 with the towing package...but oh well). Then I figured new shocks would be nice...blah, blah, blah.

So I decided to call AEV since they have a facility that is less than 20 miles from me. Great bunch of guys, Brad at the Wixom shop said I could call anytime and stop in for a tour and a ride in one of there modded Jeeps. I told him what I was looking for:

- AEV hood
- 2.5" XT Dualsport lift
- 4.10 gear ratio

Which would run me about $4000 OTD

Then Brad started to do a sell job on me (can't blame the guy) and said the resale is better if a get a complete 'certified' AEV base package like the JK231 and swapped out the 2" spacer lift for the 2.5 XT Dualsport lift. That would bring the OTD cost to around $7300 (and would not include the 4.10 gearing, which would be another $1400)

To be honest, I don't really care about the front/rear bumpers, AEV branded headrests and instrument cluster. I figure I could do my mods now, save almost $4k and in a few years I could go for the 231S for $10K which doesn't include the hood and skip the 3.5" lift to bring the package price down a little.

What do you guys think? Build my own or go for the 'certified' build. I'd love to hear all opinions...I've owned Jeeps for 20 years but they have always been bone-stock except for tire & minor exterior mods.

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Old 03-22-2012, 09:15 AM   #2
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Everything they do is overpriced IMO....a diff shop will smoke their price on regearing and the rest of the stuff you can source out too. Heck I have less than 8700 in my entire jeep right now.

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Old 03-22-2012, 09:22 AM   #3
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I would do what you want, not what they consider to have the best resale. Can't tell you much on the pricing as I have never looked into their kits or priced out an install. I would urge you to do the lift yourself if at all possible. Definitely have the gears installed by a pro though.

Speaking of gears, I would also rethink the 4.10s. If you plan to go to any decent sized tire down the road, I would look into a steeper gear. Maybe a 4.56 or 4.88 with the 2012. I know that folks have said the 3.73s are fine all the way up to 35s with the 2012s, but just my thinking.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:32 AM   #4
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I am always dubious of mods made on the basis of "resale" value.

How do they know this? Are they going to pay the difference if it turns out to be false? And why are you making decisions about spending cash based on selling what you're spending it on? If you're planning on selling it anytime in the near future, don't spend the cash in the first place. And even if they're right, given that you're paying much more for a lift, etc than you would otherwise, is the "greater" resale value really going to reimburse you for that?

I would go to another reputable shop or two and ask about a similar build using the AEV hood and substituting other good brands for the other stuff. Then call AEV and ask how close they can get to your new quotes.

Then decide. You may want to pay the AEV premium, or may not. But until you actually get something to compare it against, you're just guessing.
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:36 AM   #5
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"In MY experience".....anytime a supplier begins to use the "better resale" gambit they are talking blue-sky economic hypothetical based on unpredictable fashion trends moving the future market value favoring their own prediction.

Thankfully my own notion of 'fashion-statement' has moderated over the decades into one more concerned with trouble free functional performance as much as possible, which reflects whatever my core use may be.

It is not a drab and colorless life I live here on the edge of 'mostly stock' features of the Wrangler.

If I were to pay $10k more to get 'exactly what I want' sheer experience of having spent way too much striving to achieve that gilded theoretical perfection, I'd hope it would return much of the extra investment when eventually sold. Too often that didn't happen.

If I had that $10k laying about now to soothe my notion of what I wanted now, no problem. If I have to pay for years to cover that transitory lust, no way.

Freedom of choice is real close to the efforts it takes to support those choices....which too often reduced my daily freedom of choice by demanding I pay for the pleasure.

In review of only *my* needs, I'm pretty satisfied with what I've got.

Good luck on your package.
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He is doing a complete sell job on you and EVERYTHING AEV is overpriced. Resale value is better with a $7,300 AEV certification?? I call BS. I haven’t even put $7000 into my rig and have everything and more than what the AEV would entail including 5.13’s

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1. AEV vehicles do have a higher resale value from the research I did (@ 9/11-1/12) based on used ones at a local dealer, on Ebay and on the AEV for sale forum. Check it out for yourself and draw your own conclusions if that is true and don't just take opinions on a forum as gospel it is your money you are spending.

2. Decide what you want, if it is just a few AEV parts and you want a lot of other parts, a conversion isn't the right choice.

3. Are you going to have a shop do the install or do you have the time, patience, tools and help to do your own install? Depending on how valuable your time is, installing yourself can save @ $75-80/hr in labor.

4. Aftermarket parts are generally worth @ 50% of cost the minute you install them and then only if you are willing to uninstall them and sell.

For me, an AEV conversion made a lot of sense based on what parts I wanted, the time I had available to do mods, my intended use for the Jeep, the price and quality of local shops and what I liked and wanted.

I couldn't be happier with the decision and the completed vehicle. The fact that it was not the choice of someone else, did not effect my initial decision to go that route, or my happiness with my AEV Jeep.
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:21 PM   #8
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I agree with what KarlG said totally^^^^^

I decided not to AEV do my rig, but my 'research' turned up the same thing that Karl's did. I instead decided have a regional 4x4 shop do my build (with 4 kids, a wonderful wife, and having built too many rigs in the past - I could care less about ever wrenching on a rig again). But, the branding AEV does is pretty cool, IMHO (barring that windshield banner which I despise). But, I believe all their kits also get "manufactured by AEV" door jam plates, AEV white instrument cluster, and a rear tailgate badge. For me, it's not worth the premium. But, that's doesn't mean it's not worth it.



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