AFE Cat Back Exhaust, CAI, Ypipe dyno 2012 rubicon - Page 3 - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 02-16-2012, 01:06 PM   #61
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
We'll be looking at the MPG on top of the dyno and hopefully the numbers turn out impressive.

Ive been reading around about the MPG change, and I really cannot wait to see if its any better.

Another thing I was thinking about for MPG was a belly pan. River Raider makes a good one, they say it will help in ground clearance and MPG, Maybe Ill play with that next.

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2012, 04:31 PM   #62
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 85
how is afe ranked when it comes to exaust systems for our wranglers?? are there better?

and yes mileage is also very important to me, i am interested in mpg increase as much as power. i like efficiency and the jeep is very capable of being the best at both worlds nowadays.

OIIIIOersCreepers is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-16-2012, 05:40 PM   #63
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
ive opened the boxes now and the parts seem robust and high quality. Good looking welds. And the service when you call is very good. I make people crazy when Im shopping for new parts.

I was bored today and took out the air filter, and it was huge. Bigger than I expected, and it seemed to be very high quality. We'll see how it works out when we test the parts this weekend.
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-17-2012, 12:36 PM   #64
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Anyone know what the factory exhaust is made of? Is it 409 stainless? I cant find info on it anywhere.
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 02:39 AM   #65
First Jeep: M38A1

WF Supporting Member
 
AZduck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 366
Most factory exhaust are stainless these days. What about the AFE?

Somebody mentioned Gibson on here too, but replacing just the muffler. Was the resonator left in place? When I put Gibson on my Tundra, they offered stainless tubes and aluminized. I'd like to get a stainless system for my JK, so I'm quite interested in who's making what.

In our Jeeps, the Pentastar is rated at 285HP, but in some other vehicles the same engine gets 305HP. I assume a lot of that gain is simply better breathing and less exhaust restriction, so I'm looking forward to PieFace getting at least another 20HP, probably closer to 30HP.
__________________

2012 JK Rubicon - 2011 FJC
AZduck is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 07:10 AM   #66
Jeeper
 
wanderlust's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: colorado springs
Posts: 1,332
with the vvt programing and intake manifold changes the different models that they put the 3.6 in is the reason for the different hp ratings
__________________
2012 JKUR dozer clear coat 6spd
mods.. lots of mods
wanderlust is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 06:32 PM   #67
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Exhaust Note Comparison

Hey Everyone,

Here is the first clip, I wanted to show you guys something from today's testing.

Lots more info coming, Im trying to figure out how to get the dyno charts in here.

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 06:39 PM   #68
Jeeper
 
LBrito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 477
Awesome!
__________________
* 2012 JKU Rubicon Deep Cherry Red - 4.10 Gears - AEV 4.5" DualSport RS Suspension - 35x12.5 BFG KM2's on Pro Comp 8069 Wheels - ACE Rock Sliders - Gobi Stealth Rack - Tom Wood's shafts - M.O.R.E Dual Battery Tray with 2 Optima Yellow Tops, Smart Isolated.
* Military M416 Trailer in Olive Drab - Custom Aluminum Lid - Mombasa RTT on lid - ARB Awning w/privacy room on custom low sitting extension arms - Custom Rear Swing-out Tire Carrier - Custom Fuel Carrier on Tongue...
LBrito is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 06:45 PM   #69
Jeeper
 
Dusthol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Williston nd
Posts: 1,063
That sounds nice. Mellow w a growl.
Dusthol is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 07:26 PM   #70
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 194
Ha, I dont care what it sounds like, where are the numbers?
walker111 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 08:34 PM   #71
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Here's the intake's video,

I have to download the software from dyno jet to put up the charts, hang in there everyone, It might be tomorrow.

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 10:59 PM   #72
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Im getting close to finished compressing the numbers, Before anyone freaks out, here is RIPP's video dynoing a 2012. They came out with 182 whp. stock.




Hang in there for my results, Im just about done.
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:25 PM   #73
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
AFE Cold Air Intake and Pro Guard 7 Filter

Hey Everyone,

Here is my impressions of the AFE System I tested today. First the Cold Air Intake, Stage 2. This component made an instant change to the sound and feel of my truck. Not a crazy drastic change, but noticable. Better pick up and throttle response, and far better sound. I posted the video of us dyno'ng the truck with just the intake so you could hear the way it changes the sound of the pentastar. If you could only do one mod, this is the one. The install takes less than 15 minutes. I was shocked when they left the truck on the dyno to change the intake. And there was a line of people wait for the dyno. It would have taken longer to roll the truck off the dyno and roll it back on than change the intake.

Also, When we were changing the intake a mechanic that I'd never met before commented on the well built components of the intake. The factory hose is plastic, vs the AFE pipe which is aluminum and powder coated. Inside the factory air box is the air filter wich is smaller than a regular sheet of paper, so surface area wise, it was no where close to the surface area of the pro guard 7 filter we installed.

Once installed and we ran the first run, when we heard the change to the engine noise with the intake on, everyone was shocked looking at one another after the run like - "did you hear that?" With the stock air box, you dont get to hear the pentastar like you do without that plastic case over its mouth. The horsepower gain was best with just the intake and the sound was fantastic. Not different then stock, just better, like someone had taken a blanket off the engine, and we could finally really hear it.

The sound alone was enough for me to buy the intake, but the 6 HP increase at the wheels is a noticeable improvement. I could tell the moment I drove it. The truck felt lighter. Im testing for MPG now, but its hard when I want to floor it to listen to it sing every time I drive it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1020059.jpg
Views:	164
Size:	225.3 KB
ID:	98188   Click image for larger version

Name:	P1020058.jpg
Views:	154
Size:	226.3 KB
ID:	98190  

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:29 PM   #74
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 69
Wow - not bad at all for just the intake. Added to my to do list!
bofa is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:29 PM   #75
Jeeper
 
New2012JEEP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NB, FL
Posts: 1,351
I love how intakes loosen the pedal up, if anything that alone is reason to buy one.
__________________
2014 JKUS
OME 2" HD, MB 72 15's on 33" Goodyear DT's, Synergy Metal Grab Handles, ORO Center License Plate Bracket with LED Lights, Vector Offroad LPD, TrukLite Heads
New2012JEEP is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:42 PM   #76
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
AFE CAT BACK Exhaust

The Exhaust,

First, the goal of this exhaust is to raise ground clearance with its high tuck design. It certainly does that, when you want my video showing the sound it makes you can see the stock muffler under the truck, once we changed it you could not see the muffler or the exhaust pipe. Ill measure the clearance difference and let you guys know. Suffices to say, the muffler is tiny. 14 inches and the pipes have less bends than stock.

AFE compares the sound to that of a 350z and they are pretty close. When changing the exhaust, the resonator is removed and replaced a straight pipe leading to the muffler sitting crossways at the back of the truck just like the factory setup. The welds look good and careful and the feel of driving it with the exhaust compiled with the intake is just a step further than the lightness of the the intake alone. You dont feel like the pentastar is restricted when its stock, but once you take the clamps off it, you'll see. The air in the system can flow far easier than the stock set up.

I contacted AFE originally because I wanted better ground clearance. The exhaust adds to the low end grunt of the truck, When you look at the numbers, you have to watch the lines and see what the exhaust adds in the power chart in the low end. In collaboration with the boost in Torque at the same time.

I found myself driving home from the shop today wishing to find someone with a stock 12 rubicon with a 6 speed to drag race.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P1020067.jpg
Views:	126
Size:	200.0 KB
ID:	98186   Click image for larger version

Name:	P1020078.jpg
Views:	137
Size:	199.3 KB
ID:	98187  

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:48 PM   #77
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
The Numbers

Ok Here we go,

Ive kept you all waiting long enough. Here are the dyno charts. Dyno was a dynojet, and all the tests are run in 3rd gear.

Here are the stock numbers

Horsepower
torque
air fuel

you see 3 lines on each because we did 3 stock runs, then 3 with the intake and another 3 with the exhaust and intake.

All the figures in these charts are stock only.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	stock hp .jpg
Views:	11338
Size:	92.0 KB
ID:	98197   Click image for larger version

Name:	stock torque.jpg
Views:	763
Size:	100.1 KB
ID:	98198  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Stock Air Fuel.jpg
Views:	602
Size:	104.5 KB
ID:	98199  
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-18-2012, 11:56 PM   #78
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Here are the numbers for just the set up with the intake.

Remember there are 3 lines on these charts, but they are all with the same set up. Im going to post the comparisons after.

This is the AFE cold air intake and the stock exhaust.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake HP.jpg
Views:	722
Size:	89.7 KB
ID:	98203   Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake Torque.jpg
Views:	555
Size:	92.7 KB
ID:	98204  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake Air Fuel.jpg
Views:	317
Size:	101.8 KB
ID:	98205  
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 12:19 AM   #79
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Here are the figures for the Exhaust and Intake together.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake and Exhaust HP.jpg
Views:	739
Size:	96.6 KB
ID:	98207   Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake and Exhaust Torque.jpg
Views:	524
Size:	100.5 KB
ID:	98208  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Intake and Exhaust Air Fuel.jpg
Views:	292
Size:	104.7 KB
ID:	98209  
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 12:32 AM   #80
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Comparison Charts

Here is the best of each run stacked up together.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Comparison HP Runs.jpg
Views:	829
Size:	94.4 KB
ID:	98215   Click image for larger version

Name:	Comparison Torque.jpg
Views:	602
Size:	102.4 KB
ID:	98216  

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 01:31 AM   #81
Jeeper
 
LBrito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lakewood, CA
Posts: 477
Must say, I'm surprised that the intake had that much of a change. In general, it's said that the engine will take in as much air as needed, and intakes tend to have minimal gains if any at all. I always heard that exhaust can be restrictive due to the attempts to keep sound levels low, so you tend to see a little more gains there. Now I wonder if changing just the exhaust would have also had similar increases from stock, but combined the two sort of stabilize.
This also brings up the question as to what these numbers would be if you had the Jeep tuned to make more use of these components.
Anyway, thanks for posting these! Been coming back to this thread in anticipation!
__________________
* 2012 JKU Rubicon Deep Cherry Red - 4.10 Gears - AEV 4.5" DualSport RS Suspension - 35x12.5 BFG KM2's on Pro Comp 8069 Wheels - ACE Rock Sliders - Gobi Stealth Rack - Tom Wood's shafts - M.O.R.E Dual Battery Tray with 2 Optima Yellow Tops, Smart Isolated.
* Military M416 Trailer in Olive Drab - Custom Aluminum Lid - Mombasa RTT on lid - ARB Awning w/privacy room on custom low sitting extension arms - Custom Rear Swing-out Tire Carrier - Custom Fuel Carrier on Tongue...
LBrito is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 01:54 AM   #82
Jeeper
 
rics1997's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bristol, Tn
Posts: 4,764
In drive-able range really don't see much improvements for the cost especially in hp. There was a little better torque improvement. Even max wasn't as much as I thought it would be. Nice testing though. Should help many in their decisions
__________________
2010 Dark Charcoal Pearl Jeep Wrangler Sport S Automatic
4.88 Yukon w/Trac-Lok rear and Eaton ELocker Front - Synergy Gussets - B&M 70264 Trans Cooler
BDS 3" lift - BDS Fox 2.0 Racing Shocks
XHD front Bumper - Trektop NX - Goodyear MT/R w/Kevlar 35X12.5X15 on MB Chaos 5 Wheels - Thrush Turbo Muffler

Become a WranglerForum Supporting Member!
rics1997 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 09:31 AM   #83
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 125
Great information!!! Seems like the intake is the best bang for the buck. I however don't want to compromise the water fording with an open intake. I was hoping to see better gains from the exhaust. Thanks for posting dyno sheets.
Renegade4x4 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 09:52 AM   #84
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by rics1997 View Post
In drive-able range really don't see much improvements for the cost especially in hp. There was a little better torque improvement. Even max wasn't as much as I thought it would be. Nice testing though. Should help many in their decisions
I agree. I am no professional dyno expert but i am normally under 3500 rpms. the sound seems great though.

I wonder when there is going to be a chip or tuner.
Renegade4x4 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 11:04 AM   #85
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
KarlG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Posts: 626
Images: 9
Thanks so much for doing this and posting!

My take:

It's pretty apparent why similar runs aren't posted by AFE, who probably got similar numbers.

I'm not real surprised at the exhaust not posting very significant gains and possibly even a small loss without intake mod. Modern factory exhausts are not as restrictive as they used to be and with the hundreds of hours of testing and design and integration of ECU, it becomes hard to improve without new fuel maps etc.

I'm surprised the factory intake is as restrictive as it is.



Question:

In bike tuning with intakes and exhausts it is frequently necessary to change the ECU to realize gains and not losses. In some bikes there is learning functions and stored data in the stock ECU, that if a change is not performed, some benefit can be had by unhooking the battery, discharging the capacitors and wiping the memory on the chi[ so that relearning occurs with the modded set up. Was there any step like this to wipe the Jeep system after install recommended? Does it even matter on the Jeep system?
__________________
1f u c4n r34d th1s u r3411y n33d t0 g37 141d 4nd 570p r34d1ng 51g5 0n f0rum5
KarlG is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 11:13 AM   #86
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Quote:
Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Thanks so much for doing this and posting!

My take:

It's pretty apparent why similar runs aren't posted by AFE, who probably got similar numbers.

I'm not real surprised at the exhaust not posting very significant gains and possibly even a small loss without intake mod. Modern factory exhausts are not as restrictive as they used to be and with the hundreds of hours of testing and design and integration of ECU, it becomes hard to improve without new fuel maps etc.

I'm surprised the factory intake is as restrictive as it is.



Question:

In bike tuning with intakes and exhausts it is frequently necessary to change the ECU to realize gains and not losses. In some bikes there is learning functions and stored data in the stock ECU, that if a change is not performed, some benefit can be had by unhooking the battery, discharging the capacitors and wiping the memory on the chi[ so that relearning occurs with the modded set up. Was there any step like this to wipe the Jeep system after install recommended? Does it even matter on the Jeep system?
That is a great question, I hope someone who knows more than I do can chime in on that. Id love to know too.

The exhaust only hurt the horspower at the very top end, where none of us will push our jeeps anyway. The benefit of the exhaust is the low end power you get out of it. I would not say that it hurts the system, just helps in a way that these tests dont show with horsepower, You do see the torque gain in the exhaut charts and the grunt can be felt all the way through the powerband. I was surprised at how the exhaust tested after I drove it, I drove the truck after each component was installed, and it felt better every time.
__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #87
Jeeper
 
silvrevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 916
Hey Pie nice job!

Why is ur filter yellow? The afe i ordered is blue,,,should be here next week!!

Also i thkught the afe muffler was midsection,, not at the rear? But it sounds great!

That stock muffler is a shame. Its like a trash can.

Did you install the exhaust?? And if so how hard was the stock to remove? I KNOW those rubber hangers can be a challenge,, and knucklebuster.

IT WOULD also be nice to have an overlay of stock to mod. That really shows the meat if the matter.

Also that guys first dyno was a dynodymanics,, or the heaetbreak dyno.

If anyone wonders why the numbers are so far off. They read different.
__________________
'12 JK
'11 ZX-10r abs
silvrevo is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 11:44 AM   #88
Jeeper
 
Mopar2Ya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Earth
Posts: 873
Thank you for taking the time to test these parts pie.
FYI for the '12 owners Banks has released their CAI.
Banks Power | 12-12 Jeep - 3.6L>>Banks Ram-Air® Intake System 3.6L
__________________
2012 JK U R Crush (Specs in profile)
Pics: http://s1243.photobucket.com/profile/mopar2ya2/index
2006 GC(WK) SRT8 gone
1970 Charger R/T somewhere in pieces
Mopar2Ya is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 12:03 PM   #89
Jeeper
 
New2012JEEP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: NB, FL
Posts: 1,351
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mopar2Ya View Post
Thank you for taking the time to test these parts pie.
FYI for the '12 owners Banks has released their CAI.
Banks Power | 12-12 Jeep - 3.6L>>Banks Ram-Air® Intake System 3.6L
Oh great, how much does that cost now...
__________________
2014 JKUS
OME 2" HD, MB 72 15's on 33" Goodyear DT's, Synergy Metal Grab Handles, ORO Center License Plate Bracket with LED Lights, Vector Offroad LPD, TrukLite Heads
New2012JEEP is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 02-19-2012, 12:06 PM   #90
Jeeper
 
PieFace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,287
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvrevo View Post
Hey Pie nice job!

Why is ur filter yellow? The afe i ordered is blue,,,should be here next week!!

Also i thkught the afe muffler was midsection,, not at the rear? But it sounds great!

That stock muffler is a shame. Its like a trash can.

Did you install the exhaust?? And if so how hard was the stock to remove? I KNOW those rubber hangers can be a challenge,, and knucklebuster.

IT WOULD also be nice to have an overlay of stock to mod. That really shows the meat if the matter.

Also that guys first dyno was a dynodymanics,, or the heaetbreak dyno.

If anyone wonders why the numbers are so far off. They read different.
I think you have the pro guard 5. The 7 is just a little different filter. And the exhaust is easy, you can do it in the driveway on a strip of cardboard.

The hangers are not the nightmare everyone thinks they are, you pull the hangers off WITH the exhaust, and then when your not under the car, you take them off the ends of the exhaust parts that hang the exhaust.

Then you have your new exhaust on the ground and the hangers in your hand (rubber black hangers) and you put them on the new exhaust before you install it. then instead of playing with getting the exhaust into the hangers under the car, you are just re-attaching the hangers to their places, with the exhaust already attached to them.

super easy. takes like 25 minutes, bring wd40 as it helps loosen the stock exhaust.

__________________
RIPP and MAG go head to head in...
JeepLab's SuperCharger Shootout
running now at jeeplab.com
coming soon....Prodigy Pentastar TURBO
PieFace is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Suspension lift for 2012 2dr Rubicon Darien L. Mattison JK General Discussion Forum 36 06-13-2012 03:01 PM
2012 Jeep Rubicon (4dr) Tan JKWifey10 JK General Discussion Forum 25 10-21-2011 09:36 PM
2012 sport/ with rubicon wheels Boxerjeep12 JK General Discussion Forum 6 10-10-2011 02:43 PM
2012 Rubicon and LSD Rockyroad816 JK General Discussion Forum 46 10-05-2011 08:30 PM
Eagle Scout on the Rubicon... Great project!! Tread Lightly Land Use Forum 0 08-31-2011 05:11 PM



Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:15 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC