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Old 03-14-2011, 01:16 AM   #1
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Aftermarket foglights on windshield

Hello,

I just bought a great looking JK Wrangler Sahara Unlimited. Im new to Jeeps, so far I have gotten so much help and it is all greatly appreciated.

I had a question about fog lights. I have the fog lights built into the bumper for I should be OK their. Maybe just upgrade the power to it by replacing with better bulbs. I know its a personal preference. I'm practically blind at night and need as much as I can without blinding others on the highway and need as much as possible on the trail. Three kids push most our driving to night time.

I assume the harness going to the front lights cant be tied into. Although I can be wrong. Can I somehow tie into this? Does anyone know a better way or have any suggestions on where to go for power?

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I could be wrong, but I think fog lights are more effective closer to the ground so you would probably be better off mounting them to the bumper, or going with a set of driving lights on the windshield vs the fog lights

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Old 03-14-2011, 02:15 AM   #3
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I have a set built into the bumper. They light the lower front of the road up ok. Headlights are so dim its sick. The windshield lights would be more or less for off road just to see better, occasionally bad weather, etc. I have a set on my TJ and loved them, now with a JK im not sure how to wire them or where to start.
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I have a set built into the bumper. They light the lower front of the road up ok. Headlights are so dim its sick. The windshield lights would be more or less for off road just to see better, occasionally bad weather, etc. I have a set on my TJ and loved them, now with a JK im not sure how to wire them or where to start.
Upgrade your headlights to an H-4 conversion, the improvement is remarkable...then you won't need aux. lighting..

Here's a link to my upgrade, since then, I've upgraded to the Cibie Z-Beams..

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/ral...all-73538.html
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Old 03-14-2011, 07:01 AM   #5
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Headlights are so dim its sick.
Might try putting in a set of these. Difference is day & night!

edit: or go with what krutj said!
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Old 03-14-2011, 08:32 AM   #6
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scicero1: I too have night vision issues.

The Philips +80s are mighty potent and easy remedy with no other alteration needed for massive improvement if you're on a budget and want to make one step upgrade rather than several.

Re: fog lights on windshield

There's a couple schools of thought on this. In truly heavy coastal fog, the glare from higher-off-road light source was distracting and unusable for my own use. In non-fog situations, I still got too much light on the hood area to enjoy using them.

I tried some years ago and hated the bounce back. Your current use might show advantages I've never experienced.
Lower bumper level gives me what I'm after, but a lot of people seem to like the windshield mount.

There's a lot of discussion about color white vs amber/yellow.

I'm sensitive to the flare of white so the amber mounted low works better for me.

In fact, the stock 08 Sahara fogs do surprisingly well in low speed dense fog conditions. I think they decreased the newer fog output by about 50% or so.

There's a lot of threads on lighting here, good luck with finding your answer.
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Old 03-14-2011, 02:25 PM   #7
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Thanks, Ill be looking into this.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:50 PM   #8
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for which light

The lights you suggested are they for the fogs or the headlights? Is it as easy and unplugging them and putting the new ones on?

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Might try putting in a set of these. Difference is day & night!

edit: or go with what krutj said!
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:58 PM   #9
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The fogs in the bumper wattage was changed in 2010 to a psx24watt witch sucks . I put a set of pilot lights in from autozone much brighter 55 watt doesnt mess with the canbus system at least on the 10's 39.99$ its an option i can sent u pics if you need them just PM me good luck
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The lights you suggested are they for the fogs or the headlights? Is it as easy and unplugging them and putting the new ones on?

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Here is a good, ongoing thread about headlights..Hilldweller is also a member here and most of us will concur that he is our resident lighting expert/consultant....FYI

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Old 03-14-2011, 06:52 PM   #11
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If youre looking for offroad lighting, why not get a light bar above the windshield? That way you get a nice set of lights high enough so it doesnt reflect off the hood.
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If youre looking for offroad lighting, why not get a light bar above the windshield? That way you get a nice set of lights high enough so it doesnt reflect off the hood.
If you have an overhead light bar I'm not sure if you can fit into many parking garages if you ever go to the city. If you have any kind of lift or larger tires then you are out of luck if you come up here to Boston with an overhead light bar. They do make rotating bars tho that solve the problem but I doubt they are as stable
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The lights you suggested are they for the fogs or the headlights? Is it as easy and unplugging them and putting the new ones on?
Thanks,
In short...they are a quick and easy direct replacement bulb for the headlights...just switch em out!
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There's a lot of discussion about color white vs amber/yellow.

I'm sensitive to the flare of white so the amber mounted low works better for me.
I put these in my stock fogs and tried them in the rain/fog this morning.
Me likey.

Best bang for the buck on top of that.

Rallylights kit with Xtreme Power H4 bulbs. Have Dave build you an additional harness (tell him like the one he just built for me) and use the other H13 socket's highbeam circuit to trip a relay to power a set of driving lights to supplement your highbeams. For those lights I'd pick Hella Rallye 4000s.
Bam. All bases covered.

Alternative to the Rallylights kit, for a little more money and more performance, the Daniel Stern Cibie kit is a bit more refined.

The sky's the limit of course. But A-Pillar lights should be the last thing you get. Really. Last. And mostly for show.
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Thanks HD I've ordered the bulbs this AM.

Will see what else I need after install.

Will be looking in owner book to check for bulb change data.

Also will be considering how to mount Hella 4000s without adding light bar. While I'd love a winch I don't actually foresee my rock crawling career requiring one. Yet.
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This will be the BEST money you will ever spend on your Jeep. I can't believe how worthless the factory headlights are in comparison. The only thing I suggest when buying this kit is to use some Sylvania Xtra Vision bulbs instead of the blue ones that come in the kit.

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This will be the BEST money you will ever spend on your Jeep. I can't believe how worthless the factory headlights are in comparison. The only thing I suggest when buying this kit is to use some Sylvania Xtra Vision bulbs instead of the blue ones that come in the kit.

IPF H4 Headlight Conversion by ARB and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware-RH1
That's the worst kit available for the JK anyhow; it's not even street legal...
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What is the expected life span of the Phillips bulbs?
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Might try putting in a set of these. Difference is day & night!

edit: or go with what krutj said!
How difficult are they to install (2012 Unlimited)?
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You do not want to put fog lights on windshield mounts.
If you decide to mount lights here make sure they are driving lights with a more focused beam that shoots over the hood.

Upgrading the fog lights to 100w lights will be a big on road improvement along with headlight upgrade.
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