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Old 05-14-2013, 06:52 PM   #31
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Why would you not? Would it not keep water out of his muffler, catalitic converter and possibly up into the manifolds? He is at periscope depth.
As long as the air intake box is above high tide, and certainly no danger of engine overheating.
Just wondering.
Ideally you wouldn't want to stay submerged for 2 hours. That's just a recipe for trouble. Not sure what would do more damage: leaving it running or turning it off. If dirt ended up in any fluids it would be circulated around the engine, but If the engine were turned off water could flow up the exhaust

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Ideally you wouldn't want to stay submerged for 2 hours. That's just a recipe for trouble. Not sure what would do more damage: leaving it running or turning it off. If dirt ended up in any fluids it would be circulated around the engine, but If the engine were turned off water could flow up the exhaust
Yea jkjeeper, kinda sounds like a "damned if you do and possibly damned if you dont" situation.
Personally I like to stay out of water filled mud holes unless some one who feels that their Jeep is expendable cares to goes first to test the water.

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Why would you not? Would it not keep water out of his muffler, catalitic converter and possibly up into the manifolds? He is at periscope depth.
As long as the air intake box is above high tide, and certainly no danger of engine overheating.
Just wondering.
You got a heck of a mess there DirtyTeddy. Hope you everythings back to shipshape soon. (sorry had to go there)
Good call. However, I'd rather take the chance on replacing a cat than possibly ruining my engine. All I can see it that he was completely submerged and those intake boxes are not exactly waterproof. I'd never chance it. I didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just more of a "whaaaaatttttt" moment.

But, I agree, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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I just want to know how many beers you had before I judge you. I do see you sent the evidence down river before AAA got there, LOL!

Either way, probably not the best idea to do that especially if you don't have 1) someone else to pull you out or 2) your winch and an extra battery set up at the boat ramp and a lead already attached to your jeep.
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Wish I had that kind of money to waste...
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:29 PM   #36
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Holy crap man.....I did that YEARS ago in my Ford Explorer. I mean, it looks identical with how much water you have inside. Being the ignorant fool I was back then, I also let the engine run for about that amount of time. (Sorry)

I had to get a new transmission, and it went through oil and antifreeze like it was a crack addict. Wasn't pretty.

Good luck!
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What's done is done. This is how you learn. No need to beat him up about this anymore.

Have the transmission serviced with a BG powerflush, drain clean and refill the differentials.

Unplug every electrical harness connector that was under water, spray with WD40 (this is exactly what it's for), put di-electric silicon grease on them and reconnect.

Pull the seats out and take them to an upholstery shop to dry the cushions and covers separately, then use a good amount of leather conditioner on them.

Pull the console out and make sure no moisture is trapped underneath it.

NEVER go wheeling alone or with another vehicle that doesn't have a couple of tow straps or winch. (you should at least carry a strap with you)

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Someone else more knowledgable will chime in, I'm sure, but in the flood states, wouldn't this be a total? Couldn't imagine things being good again...that water is going to reeeeeallly stink as it 'ferments' ...Best of luck to, though, seriously. Sorry that happened.

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Show dealer the pic and tell them the hardtop leaks just a little! Take carpet and seats out and leave a fan blowing on them to dry out. Then rinse off till the water runs clean and let dry again then reinstall. Make sure u get all the plastics out of interior and cleaned so none of the bolts or grounds rust. Might put a fan in jeep blowing too.
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Good call. However, I'd rather take the chance on replacing a cat than possibly ruining my engine. All I can see it that he was completely submerged and those intake boxes are not exactly waterproof. I'd never chance it. I didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just more of a "whaaaaatttttt" moment.

But, I agree, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Lol, no offense at all. I was interested in what yours and others opinions were on that issue, It's kind of a gray area in my mind.

We shouldn't chastise the OP on his situation. I'm sure he feels bad enough. I know that sometimes my buddies and myself get a bit overzellous when you're wheeling and the adrenaline is pumping it's hard to pull back the reins and let common sense take over again. Like someone posted above, it's all a learning curve, although this one could be an expensive one.
Good luck Bro.
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some call it reckless, but you will always have this story to tell and you learned from it (hopefully)... It's a jeep, it can be fixed and the OP will be fine.

I love that the OP was having fun and has a good outlook on the scenario. Keep us posted and let us know what we can do to help.
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If the engine is surrounded by water, its not going to overheat

I've been in some deep water by accident, but that is a whole new kind of deep...

Best of luck. Other posters have already told you what to do. So just go get to it. Pull out EVERYTHING! Clean with CLR or mildew remover and hope for the best. The inside electrics are not " weatherpack" terminals. Meaning they are not sealed to the exterior environments like engine bay connectors. I sure wish you the best of luck that nothing major is shorted out.

A buddy of mine got stuck on a river bank once. I tried pulling him out but ended up ripping off 2 front tow hooks, and then the receiver hitch off the back with a huge jerk strap. High tide came in and flooded it about like yours. Shorted out the computer, filled everything with water, and caused major mildew in just a couple of days because of the humidity.

So make sure everything is out in fresh air.
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Lol, no offense at all. I was interested in what yours and others opinions were on that issue, It's kind of a gray area in my mind.

We shouldn't chastise the OP on his situation. I'm sure he feels bad enough. I know that sometimes my buddies and myself get a bit overzellous when you're wheeling and the adrenaline is pumping it's hard to pull back the reins and let common sense take over again. Like someone posted above, it's all a learning curve, although this one could be an expensive one.
Good luck Bro.
True story. I had a pretty expensive learning curve too. New roll cage for the win.
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Do you have an inboard or outboard motor?
Seriously...the rice idea isn't really a bad one. Asian food market a 50# bag is not that expensive. Cheese cloth with rice near electronics etc. Sometime the craziest ideas...work.
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If you want to soak up water you can buy those flower gel power packs at Hobby Lobby or flower shops. The gel expands when it gets wet and soaks up liquids, you can then remove it because it looks like little marbles.

You can also buy a can of Sta-Dri or Dri-It to help out with the fabrics. You're best bet is to remove the seats, wash them at a car wash with high pressure soap, strip the covers off, and let them dry in the sun for a few days. The TJ could completely in 2 days in summer like this, not sure how the JK does yet.
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Holy s... What a great amount of water...

What I'd do is replace all the fluids like others explained, this is a good start. Trans/diff/engine/filters/transfer case. Your electronics problem is probably a flooded connector. WD40 (Water Displacement experiment #40) is a good stuff to use. Disconnect the connector, spray in, then dielectric grease and reconnect. Maybe this will get better this way. Do them all though. Look at those going to and from the transmission and the transmission lever (PRND) maybe it's just a switch/sensor or connector near the transmission lever since that part seems to be pretty underwater in your pics.

Good luck though, sincerely, I wish you the best. Keep up posted on your results, and what you did. I never had a flooding like this, but if it stinks too much, maybe it's a good idea to wash everything (carpets, seats) with lots of fresh water to remove the mud?

Jeeps can go almost everywhere... But in this particular case, buy a boat! Good luck!
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I would just see if insurance will total it. As some have stated, car being underwater this much may automatically classify it as totaled.

It would break my heart to know my jeep was underwater like this.
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What's done is done. This is how you learn. No need to beat him up about this anymore.

Have the transmission serviced with a BG powerflush, drain clean and refill the differentials.

Unplug every electrical harness connector that was under water, spray with WD40 (this is exactly what it's for), put di-electric silicon grease on them and reconnect.

Pull the seats out and take them to an upholstery shop to dry the cushions and covers separately, then use a good amount of leather conditioner on them.

Pull the console out and make sure no moisture is trapped underneath it.

NEVER go wheeling alone or with another vehicle that doesn't have a couple of tow straps or winch. (you should at least carry a strap with you)

And finally...NEVER play hip hop while wheeling
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I would just see if insurance will total it. As some have stated, car being underwater this much may automatically classify it as totaled.

It would break my heart to know my jeep was underwater like this.
I respectfully disagree.. The premium hike would NOT be cheap and I don't think he's tried the basics yet.

Also, I love knowing that my jeep has been through the things it has.. I have a "ding" on my door from where I hit a log during a water crossing.. I keep going back and forth about having it pulled.. I kind of enjoy telling the story.
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FYI, the TJ folks are all pointing and laughing at this thread. I was not aware that TJ was a submarine designation.
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Wow... You did the right thing by keeping the motor running, whomever said otherwise, will b in a bigger mess than you if they get put in your same situation.. then again, maybe not. Why wait two hours to get out, that should have been done asap.
As far as a tj goes, I've had water in my tub coming through the floor but never had water so deep it filled the entire tub. This jeep was trying to pass as a boat or sub. My jeep can't do that.
Good luck w it. Wish you the best
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Sorry, but when I saw the pictures Risky Business immediately came to mind.

"So, who is the U-Boat commander?"

Good luck on the clean up. Wish we could see pictures of the area. Those photos make it look like you drove it into a pond or a lake.

I never understood wanting to drive through large dark puddles of water. I do drive through water but it is crossing streams and creeks where I can see the water is not much more than a foot deep.
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OP must be too PO'd to post again.
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I respectfully disagree.. The premium hike would NOT be cheap and I don't think he's tried the basics yet.

Also, I love knowing that my jeep has been through the things it has.. I have a "ding" on my door from where I hit a log during a water crossing.. I keep going back and forth about having it pulled.. I kind of enjoy telling the story.
Again with the ding. I'm going to pull it one day so it will fade away in history as if it never happened

Seriously, I'm with ilikeguns on this. I don't shy away from obstacles because there might be a possibility that I damage my Jeep. If I don't go up a steep incline its more fear of my life, I can always fix or replace whatever breaks on the Jeep, my personal health on the other hand is a different story. So, as long as the OP is safe and no one got hurt...
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I saw that a few of you guys recommend the WD40 and dielectric grease of the connectors, going to try that after work and ill post an update with some photos of everything ripped out etc.


I'm not too worried about the smell, I've cleaned the cushions and carpets pretty well and I've kept a large dehumidifier in the jeep cabin every night since the incident.
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As to why in the hell I drove it into the water, I was playing on the side which was less than a foot deep and decided to go a little deeper, wasn't aware it was that deep and my front end bumper got stuck on the upward sloped bank.

This isn't an excuse for my stupidity and lack of experience off roading lmao
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I saw that a few of you guys recommend the WD40 and dielectric grease of the connectors, going to try that after work and ill post an update with some photos of everything ripped out etc.


I'm not too worried about the smell, I've cleaned the cushions and carpets pretty well and I've kept a large dehumidifier in the jeep cabin every night since the incident.
do you feel confident in your ability to change the tranny fluid?
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I'd pull the center console and investigate. you wont like the amount of electronics inside.
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do you feel confident in your ability to change the tranny fluid?
Doesn't look too intimidating, anything special I should look out for?
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You'll want to pay a shop to do it using a fluid exchanger. That will make sure every bit of the old contaminated fluid gets out. The internals of an automatic are very easily damaged by water.

Replacement cost of that tranny-$4000. Transmission/transfer case service-$250. Don't drive it anymore until that's done.

You can do the differentials yourself pretty easy.

When you are disconnecting and cleaning the harnesses, make sure the battery is disconnected.

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