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Old 04-29-2013, 08:38 PM   #61
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I wanted a stick, the $1k savings was icing on the cake..... or pays for the first clutch....... and you still don't have any expensive auto trans issues to deal with......

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Old 04-30-2013, 08:54 AM   #63
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I've driven a manual jeep for 10 years now and all my driving is in town, stop and go. Not a single regret yet.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:02 AM   #64
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I'd say go automatic... I use my jeep as a daily driver and between talking on cell phones, snacking on a quick burger, radio staitons and all the crazies on the road... sometimes I just dont want to deal with shifting gears!
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:11 AM   #65
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Just sold my 4dr auto and have a 2 Dr 6 s
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Although I'm not worried about it in the rocks Im rehearing the diffs and transfer case for that the auto is easier off road for sure....

As with any stick there's quirks, up hill starts, rock piles, in town traffic on the other side of the fence gas mileage is better I go up hills easier and I can control my gear range a lot better without shifting....a lot less drag with no torque converter....

I have 37s on both 4dr had 5:13 gears and the 2dr has 3:21 till next week - going up my hill I had trouble getting to 55 from a stop in the regeared dr but the 6sp 2dr flies up it....both were built and both modified for heavy rock crawling.....

Yes 4drs are heavier bit not that much.

Love em both..-....

There might be some use full info here lol of just leaves you back in your same position...lol


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Old 04-30-2013, 01:07 PM   #66
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I'd say go automatic... I use my jeep as a daily driver and between talking on cell phones, snacking on a quick burger, radio staitons and all the crazies on the road... sometimes I just dont want to deal with shifting gears!
Sounds like having a stick is exactly what you need. Keeps you focused on driving instead of all that other BS.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:35 AM   #67
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Sounds like having a stick is exactly what you need. Keeps you focused on driving instead of all that other BS.
Dont get me wrong, I do like a stick shift for some of the time, but when it comes down to daily use and what will be best the majority of the time, I just gotta go with the auto. I'm plenty focused on driving, the idiot i saw putting on makeup this morning with a magazine on the steering wheel isnt.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:02 AM   #68
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Go with the manual, way more fun. It's been so long since I have driven an automatic that I think I may have forgotten how to drive one.
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I love mine, but right now I hate the fact that I can't drive it and it may be awhile before I can drive it again. I blew out my left knee playing basketball the other day and not sure yet if its going to require surgery. I'm really bummed out all I can do is look at my jeep through the window as a lay on the couch.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:43 AM   #70
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I love my manual. This is my first car so i learned on a manual. With 3:73 gears and 35s I've had no problem with off roading. I disabled the hill assist and its much easier off road. Every once and a while i have to drive my dads Grand Cherokee or my moms Tahoe and i find myself not paying as much attention because the car does everything for me. So it helps to keep me engaged in driving and it is also FUN so no regrets here.
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I love mine, but right now I hate the fact that I can't drive it and it may be awhile before I can drive it again. I blew out my left knee playing basketball the other day and not sure yet if its going to require surgery. I'm really bummed out all I can do is look at my jeep through the window as a lay on the couch.
Sorry for you. I went through this 3 years ago, then the following year it was the turn of our oldest daughter and also my brother, all of us left knee cross ligament. If you want one advise, start moving it already, start walking on it and begin physiotherapy already. If you know Georges St-Pierre UFC fighter, he got the same injury and we got the same surgeon he got. In fact the movement involve using you clutch is a good physiotherpy movement if you try to keep your heel on the floor as much as possible.

Good luck with it, it's not that bad, we all recovered 100%
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Going back on topic, I didn't drove a manual since the last 22 years, since I met my wife, I didn't want to buy new, wanted the new 3.6L and 2012 and up on the used market, auto trans are really rare, so I went with a manual.

It is a blast to drive, I like it even if the stick is shaking like if it would be a tractor. I wouldn't see myself with an auto trans Jeep.
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:59 PM   #73
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Go with the manual, way more fun. It's been so long since I have driven an automatic that I think I may have forgotten how to drive one.
Agree~!!

Every time I get in an auto now, the foot goes for the clutch and the hand for the missing shifter...... nothing like clutching empty air
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:13 PM   #74
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I regreted it at first till I learned how to turn the off the hill assist, now its awesome!
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:15 PM   #75
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Get the six speed you won't be sorry! IMO two things a jeep shouldn't have are an auto trans or a hard top. I love my six speed and yes I do wheel quite a bit. Climbing rocks you may stall a couple times at first but then u learn. You can also get a hand throttle that attaches to the stick if you really need for about 20 bucks. This solves the need for 3 feet when climbing. Or just man up and learn. Plus my 6 speed gets 20-22 mpg on highway and about 18 in town depending how I drive. So glad I didn't get an auto!
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:23 PM   #76
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Get the six speed you won't be sorry! IMO two things a jeep shouldn't have are an auto trans or a hard top. I love my six speed and yes I do wheel quite a bit. Climbing rocks you may stall a couple times at first but then u learn. You can also get a hand throttle that attaches to the stick if you really need for about 20 bucks. This solves the need for 3 feet when climbing. Or just man up and learn. Plus my 6 speed gets 20-22 mpg on highway and about 18 in town depending how I drive. So glad I didn't get an auto!
That's what makes wheeling fun, managing three pedals with two feet. I don't see how anyone can enjoy just pushing the "go" pedal until they need the "stop" pedal next to it. It took a while to learn how to manage rocks and steep inclines in my YJ but now that I got it, makes the JK with the 6 speed that much better.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:30 PM   #77
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A year ago I would have said no. Then I read after the fact all the hardcore rock crawlers actually LIKE automatics. Combine with that the gearing to tire size charts for the 2012+ show that the new 5 speed auto actually is better than the old 6 speed for 33 & 35's where it was the opposite for 2011 and earlier with the 4 speed auto and older engine. Also I didn't realize the whole issue with water crossings and the manual at the time. I still enjoy my manual, but I think next time it's going to be an auto.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:34 PM   #78
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I don't regret the manual but I do regret not having lower gearing :'(
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I don't regret the manual but I do regret not having lower gearing :'(
A standard with high gears blows, especially when wheeling.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:45 PM   #80
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A standard with high gears blows, especially when wheeling.
No kidding, the amount of times this winter where I had to use 4LO just to back out of a parking spot without toasting the clutch... that's just not right..

First mod when the warranty is up I guess...
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Sorry for you. I went through this 3 years ago, then the following year it was the turn of our oldest daughter and also my brother, all of us left knee cross ligament. If you want one advise, start moving it already, start walking on it and begin physiotherapy already. If you know Georges St-Pierre UFC fighter, he got the same injury and we got the same surgeon he got. In fact the movement involve using you clutch is a good physiotherpy movement if you try to keep your heel on the floor as much as possible.

Good luck with it, it's not that bad, we all recovered 100%
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:54 PM   #82
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Automatics are boring and just plain miserable.

Only time an automatic has its place is in a mini van, and for those that cannot physically operate a clutch.

Hate how everyone loves these automatics and DSG trannies in sports cars. It doesnt belong. Everyone now adays are just too dam lazy.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:24 PM   #83
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Automatics are boring and just plain miserable.

Only time an automatic has its place is in a mini van, and for those that cannot physically operate a clutch.

Hate how everyone loves these automatics and DSG trannies in sports cars. It doesnt belong. Everyone now adays are just too dam lazy.
I beg to differ on the DSG. Its a true engineered from the ground up box. Two clutches, all gears like a manual. No bands no torque converter. Having owned manuals most of my life my VW GLI had a DSG. Reason I bought one onstead of a manual is I drove a twin car just like it across country came back and bought one. Its a piece of performance hardware shifting gears quicker then a sequential ferrari at the time. For those that disagree, let the guys in F1 know they don't like to drive.
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No regrets on manual. It's a Jeep Wrangler, not an F1 car. BMW isn't the "ultimate driving machine", the Jeep is in my humble opinion. The only vehicle in which you might have a more actively involved driving experience would be a Model A, complete with spark advance control.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:08 PM   #85
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Nope! Wouldn't enjoy driving an auto.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:37 PM   #86
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Sort of related... Why does everyone seem to like turning off the hill assist? I've found it to be helpful.
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Sort of related... Why does everyone seem to like turning off the hill assist? I've found it to be helpful.
I turned it off simply because I thought it was a crutch and I didn't want to become dependent on it. Part of driving a manual is knowing how to start on hills.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:29 AM   #88
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Only regret with mine is not getting a manual
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:53 AM   #89
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Still love the manual but rethinking the auto thing since the only issues seem to be coming from the manual transmission. Having mine replaced now so I may get the auto on the next one. I'll determine that when I get it back and it was just bad luck on my part.
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Its for sure a matter of preference but I have heard of some mechanical issues with the manual and not as many with the auto.

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