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Old 11-27-2013, 02:49 PM   #1
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Any regrets with stubby front?

So, I've been bouncing back and forth with the whole stubby vs. mid debate (LoD Armor Lite to be exact).

I've read up, and it seems like the people who wheel more always end up with stubby, and those who aren't sure get a mid for "more protection".

Is this "more protection" ever used for anything other than a chance encounter with a car or animal?

Does a mid actually do anything other than look funny with fenders?

Has anybody ever gotten a stubby and wished they hadn't?

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Old 11-27-2013, 03:16 PM   #2
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I've yet to regret my stubby. Then again, I haven't had the misfortune of being involved in an MVC with this jeep, so I can't speak to whether or not a mid or fullwidth bumper would be superior to a stubby from that perspective.

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Old 11-27-2013, 03:36 PM   #3
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:40 PM   #4
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If you are not sure do the cheapest route and make a stubby out of your stock bumper. It is light and they are plentiful. I figured I would give it a try on mine until I got the bumper I wanted but like mine enough that I stopped looking at bumpers.
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Old 11-27-2013, 04:42 PM   #5
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I've yet to regret my stubby. Then again, I haven't had the misfortune of being involved in an MVC with this jeep, so I can't speak to whether or not a mid or fullwidth bumper would be superior to a stubby from that perspective.
Glad you've not wrecked. I imagine most people haven't, and even though I recently hit an owl (yes, an owl) I've got a pretty good track record of not hitting things in the road.

Still leaning towards stubby...



jadmt, I started modding the stock bumper with a light bar, but have become disappointed in how the plastic doesn't get along with the mud around here. I am ready to toss it, and cut the stained fenders also.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:31 PM   #6
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I'm paranoid of stubby because not only does it offer less protection, but it can be an insurance risk if you're an accident. An in-the-know insurance adjuster can easily deny a claim if they're sure the OEM full width bumper could've prevented the damage. And make no mistake - the thick plastic ends of the OEM bumper are very sturdy and capable of deflecting objects to the side or below the tires.

So why did I end up going stubby? I only drive to and from work, and never drive at night. If I lived a life where I'm going 70 on back country roads or parking in lots at night full of drunk people who are also parking their cars, then no I would not have gone stubby.
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:48 PM   #7
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Why not go with a midwidth then?
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:08 PM   #8
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I searched bumpers until I was cross eyed! I think it comes down to two things:

1. What are you going to use it for?
2. What do you like the look of ?

Personally, I do not like the appearance of a full width bumper. My Jeep is my driver so I went with a JCR Off-road Dagger, Mid-width. The ends are tapered and it fit my needs best.
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Old 11-27-2013, 08:13 PM   #9
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I plan to purchase a stubby for a couple reasons. First reason is full width collects dirt off the road from the tires. My factory bumper right in front of the tires is always filthy.

I also like to do mods that I won't regret down the road if I decide to change or add. For example, I'm looking at a few rear bumpers now with tire carrier, however I'm having a hard time finding one I like that allows for use of the factory hitch. I put on my Quadratec hitch when I bought the Jeep, and I don't want to have to remove it and sell it.

As for front bumper.. a stubby looks good with factory flares or flats.. full width, not so much in my opinion. I have no current plans for flat fenders, but you never know and I don't want to buy a full or mid width bumper only to have to sell it if I decide to change fenders to flats.

I almost bought a rampage recovery full width bumper as I do like the look. One thing that held me back is the dealer that i bought my Jeep from was selling Jeeps off the lot with that bumper as a dealer installed option. This increases the chance of possibly seeing more JKs rolling around with the same bumper, and I wanted something a bit more different and unique (to my location anyways).

My opinion in regards to protection of full vs. stubby.. I think you having a full width may protect some areas of the Jeep better (obviously the fenders and wheels, etc) however if I get into a collision.. this is what I have insurance for.

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Old 11-27-2013, 08:18 PM   #10
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I'm going the stubby route because it saves a little bit of weight and I really like the looks of it. I'm between the ACE pro stubby, the LoD offroad stubby or the Genright. They're all lightweight, have built in winch trays and offer the bull bar. If I drove back country roads more often where deer and animals are more of a concern, I would consider a full or midwidth bumper, but I don't need it for where I live. As said earlier, I could see a claims adjuster coming up with some scenerio where a OME bumper could have saved damage, but they're all just looking for some excuse anyway.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:19 PM   #11
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I run a stubby, xrc in front, love it.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:21 PM   #12
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I had a stubby untill the first fender bender. I now run full width.
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I'll share this... for nearly 3 years I couldn't bring myself to cut fenders or run a stubby bumper... seemed like the more time I spent off-roading more technical trails, the more my tires contacted my front bumper, limiting my capability off-road.

long story short I picked up some flat fenders and a stubby bumper. and my only regret is not doing this sooner.

here's a shot. JCR dagger stinger. I love it.
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Old 11-27-2013, 09:37 PM   #14
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I will say my one negative on the stubby is I definitely get more road spray on the front windshield in inclimate weather. I can be the only vehicle on the road and my windshield gets dirty fast. I have had the same bumper on two wranglers and both times did not have this problem with the stock bumper.
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I'll share this... for nearly 3 years I couldn't bring myself to cut fenders or run a stubby bumper... seemed like the more time I spent off-roading more technical trails, the more my tires contacted my front bumper, limiting my capability off-road.

long story short I picked up some flat fenders and a stubby bumper. and my only regret is not doing this sooner.

here's a shot. JCR dagger stinger. I love it.
That JCR looks great, and their pre runner version of that has been right at the top of my list.



This is great feedback everybody.
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That JCR looks great, and their pre runner version of that has been right at the top of my list.

This is great feedback everybody.
thanks! their pre-runner is a nice set up for sure!
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:13 PM   #17
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Don't regret it one bit. Once I was looking at bumpers mid or full widths never crossed my mind. Went with the Poison Spyder brawler lite and couldn't be happier.
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Old 11-27-2013, 11:48 PM   #18
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No regrets here, in fact now we have two Jeeps with ACE Stubbies:



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Old 11-28-2013, 01:37 AM   #19
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I'm paranoid of stubby because not only does it offer less protection, but it can be an insurance risk if you're an accident. An in-the-know insurance adjuster can easily deny a claim if they're sure the OEM full width bumper could've prevented the damage. And make no mistake - the thick plastic ends of the OEM bumper are very sturdy and capable of deflecting objects to the side or below the tires.
Please provide evidence of your first and second claims.

As to your third assertion, I have seen many Wrangler collisions with vehicles/fixed objects/living entities/road debris and the front bumper is only going to deflect soft objects like a dog, a bag of kitchen trash, etc. Anything more substantial is going to deform and effectively destroy the outboard portion of the bumper.
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Old 11-28-2013, 08:12 AM   #20
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I got a mid just because I like the looks.
A lot of deer on the country roads I travel, so I also have a winch guard.
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:43 AM   #21
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No regrets here, in fact now we have two Jeeps with ACE Stubbies:



I looked and looked in that first picture and damned if I could find a Jeep there.

Stubby bumper here and I really like the looks of it. Plus it did not weigh any more than the stock bumper which is something I was looking for.
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:28 AM   #22
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I have the original ACE stubby front bumper with stinger and love it. I posted this picture in another thread, it's one of my fav pics even though I'm stuck, it really shows off the ACE bumper also.
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Please provide evidence of your first and second claims.

As to your third assertion, I have seen many Wrangler collisions with vehicles/fixed objects/living entities/road debris and the front bumper is only going to deflect soft objects like a dog, a bag of kitchen trash, etc. Anything more substantial is going to deform and effectively destroy the outboard portion of the bumper.
That's not my job. I'm simply posting on an internet forum. If anyone is concerned about what I said or is just plain curious then they'll need to do their own research on their own time.
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Please provide evidence of your first and second claims.

As to your third assertion, I have seen many Wrangler collisions with vehicles/fixed objects/living entities/road debris and the front bumper is only going to deflect soft objects like a dog, a bag of kitchen trash, etc. Anything more substantial is going to deform and effectively destroy the outboard portion of the bumper.
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That's not my job. I'm simply posting on an internet forum. If anyone is concerned about what I said or is just plain curious then they'll need to do their own research on their own time.
not sure why this made me laugh. Sounds like Obama, Ried and Pelosi lol
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No regrets here, in fact now we have two Jeeps with ACE Stubbies:
You guys are obviously fans of ACE's stuff. Are those his flares too? I'm looking at the ACE bumper. What 20" light bar did you guys go with? Does it have a decent flood pattern? If I'm going to lose my stock fogs, I want an LED that isn't just a spot.
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Please provide evidence of your first and second claims. As to your third assertion, I have seen many Wrangler collisions with vehicles/fixed objects/living entities/road debris and the front bumper is only going to deflect soft objects like a dog, a bag of kitchen trash, etc. Anything more substantial is going to deform and effectively destroy the outboard portion of the bumper.
Actually a solid bumper like the AEV premium will bounce deer off with no damage. Depends on the bumper. And if that bumper absorbs the impact so be it that's what it there for. An impact to the front tire takes out diff housings and suspension/steering components and usually the front fender.

The only positive I can add for the stubby in the case of my accident is, had I of had a full width the end would have gone through the old fellas driver side window and badly hurt or perhaps killed him.
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0 regrets chopping my bumper to a stubby (true stubby, none of that end cap mid-width crap.)

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