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Old 03-07-2012, 08:37 PM   #1
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Anybody pull the carpet & use just floor liners?

My full soft doors leak like a sieve & want to pull the carpet for the summer. I'm wondering if the qtec floor liners (or something similar) would work. Will they fit and stay in place without the carpet? They won't melt or anything cuz of the heat, will they? I've never actually seen them so I'm kinda clueless.

And no, I don't have it in me to bedline it!

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For what it is worth... I pulled the carpet after about 5 years in my TJ...permantely. Before that I would just take it out for the summer.

I am getting my mats from BASLEINE 4x4. They are a local company for me, and cheaper than the big q......my q mats for my TJ never did fit "right" IMO, but didn't feel it was worth the hassle/ thought they would form to the floor. Nope still gap along the edge. after 3 years

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And no, I don't have it in me to bedline it!
Why not?
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If you do not have it in you to bedline it your self, then hire someone to do it. It is well worth it.
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MTH tried that plasdip stuff on one side
along with a floor liner I believe.
Easier than bedliner. Check with him.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:59 PM   #6
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Floor mats will slide around. I took out my carpets and put in the Mopar vinyl floor covering. The fronts fit nicely but the back not so much. Eventually I'll bedline the interior. I go through phases where I put the Rugged Ridge/Tread lightly/Quadratec mats in. They slide around. Currently they are in, but they will come out again soon. They are starting to tick me off again.
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Pulled mine and put in the rugged ridge mud mats. Lovin' it.
Mine do not slide around so much. I get in and then pull my heel to the back as I sit down. mat slides to where it is supposed to be. It's such a habit now I do not even think about it.


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My full soft doors leak like a sieve & want to pull the carpet for the summer. I'm wondering if the qtec floor liners (or something similar) would work. Will they fit and stay in place without the carpet? They won't melt or anything cuz of the heat, will they? I've never actually seen them so I'm kinda clueless.

And no, I don't have it in me to bedline it!
If you pull the carpet and wanna run the Q-tec floor liners, do this: go to the hardware store and buy some Industrial Strength Velcro fasteners. The ones I've got are 4" x 2". Stick one on the bottom front and back of your floor mats, and attach their counterparts to your floor where you want the mat to sit. No sliding, and no flight attempts by the mats at speed. When you wanna clean the mats, just rip em out. And if you decide to reinstall the carpet, just peel up the velcro and clean the sticky off with rubbing alcohol.
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Old 03-07-2012, 10:23 PM   #9
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MTH tried that plasdip stuff on one side
along with a floor liner I believe.
Easier than bedliner. Check with him.
Been meaning to update that thread . . .

It's worn through in certain spots under the mat. Of course, you can't see those with the mat in place, so it still looks much better than having just left it paint colored IMO. Still pleased with it as a carpet-less option until bedliner comes in down the road. And it involves like zero prep and can be readily peeled off, so that was nice.
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I pull out the carpets and have the rubber mats over the bare metal. During the (south Florida) summer I just make sure I have the lower ac vent on
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Bedlining = pulling seats out = way too big of a job for me! Where does one find a place that does bedlining? Ideally that's what I'd want.

I think the velcro under the mats is brilliant! I'm gonna give that a shot.

As usual, thanks for the great responses guys.
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If you check around the Bed lining places, like for pick ups, (brain to slow this am) all I can think of is Rhino liner...and I know there are a bunch of them. I checked for the TJ, never had it done, they wanted to tie the Jeep up for a day day and a half, it is cheaper if you remove the seats and carpet yourself.

I got the cheap stuff from Wallyworld and did the TJ myself....still took a weekend but I still had the Jeep.

Not sure but if I remember right think I was quoted $600-$1200 to have it done. 2 factors effected the price....... did I "prep it", and the company that made the liner.

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Bedlining = pulling seats out = way too big of a job for me! Where does one find a place that does bedlining? Ideally that's what I'd want.

I think the velcro under the mats is brilliant! I'm gonna give that a shot.

As usual, thanks for the great responses guys.
When you said you didn't have it in you to bedline I thought maybe you had something against bedlinning.

Air tools can make big jobs seem small. If I had to wrench the seat bolts out I would go nuts. But I suppose it is a fairly big task. Actually I took a couple days off work to get mine ready. I took mine to Line-X. I think Line-X is a better choice over Rhino Lining. It is sprayed on hot and dries instantly. It has a little more grip to the finish. Rhino reminds me of a plastic bedliner. Line-X actually looks sort of like carpet. I plan to paint it when it gets warmer. It seems to stain easily so I though I would rattle can a gloss black on it to "seal" the liner. When I had my seat out last week installing an amp I sprayed under there to test it out. It looks great. I like the shiny look. The biggest reason I chose Line-X was the great savings I got for knowing the right person.

Here is what my jeep looked like just before delivering it to Line-X:


Their normal price for jeeps was $600. I was asked to bring it with only the drivers seat. I suspect their prep work only consisted of surface preparation so the liner would stick. I removed the factory putty and used bondo on the seams and I also removed the putty patches that was applied in the back and on the floor boards. If you ever do decide to bedline your jeep I suggest you ask them to rremove those putty patches. It make for a much nicer looking job.

Yep, I love my bedliner. Easy upkeep. Looks great. Water resistant. Don't smell; that's a big one. It's one of my favorite mods so far.

I just proofed my post and realized what I said about don't smell could be misleading. I meant it don't smell like stinking carpet. The line-x did have an odor for about 6 weeks. I began to wonder if it would ever go away.

All is good now. Looks great, don't it?
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It looks awesome!! I would looove to do it. I was in a wreck last year & can't lift anything at the moment so doing any of it on my own is out of the question. I am going to start asking around & see if I can find a place around here that will do it all, I don't mind paying for it if I know they'll do it right. I'm having a hard time thinking about handing over the keys & letting someone tear my baby apart like that I gotta say though! But man thats exactly what I want.
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It looks awesome!! I would looove to do it. I was in a wreck last year & can't lift anything at the moment so doing any of it on my own is out of the question. I am going to start asking around & see if I can find a place around here that will do it all, I don't mind paying for it if I know they'll do it right. I'm having a hard time thinking about handing over the keys & letting someone tear my baby apart like that I gotta say though! But man thats exactly what I want.
Thanks. I hope for a speedy recovery for you. A year being injured can't be fun.

When you get ready to do this just be very specific with what you want to them to prep. You know, a bedliner place just might not have the tools to clean up that putty like I did... Most everything they do is pickup beds - simple stuff. Maybe a body shop could prep it for you. I used an air chisel and needle gun to work on mine. Not everybody has those tools. I borrowed the needle gun from my work. Do a search on bedlining and look at several pictures. You can decide then how far you want to take it.
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I pulled the carpets after a rain because my hardtop full doors leaked and there was water on the floorboards ... later found out I could stop the leak by putting the tops on correctly and tightening the doors when I put them back on but I like it without carpet...

Pulled all the carpet and use small rubber matts just to help collect some dirt...
Also pulled all the drain plugs...

Do it, easy and if its a two door there are 5 pieces, 2 cover the rear tire wells...

I left the two pieces over the wheel wells...

takes under 5 minutes to pull...
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Pulled all the carpet and use small rubber matts just to help collect some dirt...

Also pulled all the drain plugs...

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I drove mine once with the plugs out and I remember feeing heat coming thru.
How about driving on a wet road?
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think I may get it rhino lined and then put carpet on top for daily driving then remove carpet when I do off road. sounds like a good idea to me. anyone know about how much rhino liner weighs total if I get the floor sprayed?
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think I may get it rhino lined and then put carpet on top for daily driving then remove carpet when I do off road. sounds like a good idea to me. anyone know about how much rhino liner weighs total if I get the floor sprayed?
Wow, not sure why you would do that. I understand your thought of removing the carpet for off road but you can do that anyway. The Rhino or Line-X would be the reason to leave it out.

Regarding weight, not sure. It won't weigh much. Probably about like a drop-in liner in a pickup. 25 - 50 pounds, just a guess.
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It seems to stain easily so I though I would rattle can a gloss black on it to "seal" the liner. When I had my seat out last week installing an amp I sprayed under there to test it out. It looks great. I like the shiny look.
Any particular paint or enamel in mind, Yella?

I bedlined my new side rails, and I'm debating putting some kind of sealer coat on them . . . just haven't decided what. So far, I'm thinking this: (http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=12)
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Pulled my carpet three months after I bought my JK currently don't have any mats. Never thought about a liner may look into doing it myself not sure if I want to fork out tons of cash for the floor would rather buy other stuff to MOD. Just a floor after all in a Jeep?
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re: "I'm debating putting some kind of sealer coat on them" I don't grasp the need for this, other than 'color change'....I've know a ton of pickup guys that have never mentioned 'sealer coat'.....

What am I missing here?
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Wow, not sure why you would do that. I understand your thought of removing the carpet for off road but you can do that anyway. The Rhino or Line-X would be the reason to leave it out.

Regarding weight, not sure. It won't weigh much. Probably about like a drop-in liner in a pickup. 25 - 50 pounds, just a guess.

I have read many times of having carpet + liner = quieter cabin noise. And why is it such a big deal if I want to remove and put back in carpet over my liner? Lol.
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re: "I'm debating putting some kind of sealer coat on them" I don't grasp the need for this, other than 'color change'....I've know a ton of pickup guys that have never mentioned 'sealer coat'.....

What am I missing here?
Not sure. I'm thinking it could add to durability or fade and stain resistance, but I don't know for sure.

Did the pickup guys just rattle can on bedliner or use the pro stuff?
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I have read many times of having carpet + liner = quieter cabin noise. And why is it such a big deal if I want to remove and put back in carpet over my liner? Lol.
It's not a big deal, he's just noting it'd be unusual. You'd be the only guy I know of who'd done that, but it would be fine of course.

For what you're looking to do, I'd think it'd be cheaper/easier to add some more padding to your carpets to help dampen noise. You can always pull the carpets just to go wheeling--no liner needed.
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I'm a big fan of line-x. I want to get my jeep done one day but every interaction I've had, and I sold pick-up trucks for couple years, has been positive.
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"Did the pickup guys just rattle can on bedliner or use the pro stuff? "
the guys I refer did the pro-stuff. One has a rig going on 20 years old, that looks virtually new. He's hauled a mess of range/ranch/machinist/fishing stuff in it.

Some have canopies, some have open-to-air. Don't really know the long-term results but certainly in the up-to 10 year range they've been happy.

I don't know anyone personally that's done the rattle can route, but I might try it myself.....someday.
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Havent did it yet, but im gonna get my tub rhino lined inside
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I got tired of the wet carpet smell and I pulled all the carpet and have the Mopar rubber mats in and have not regretted it one bit. Eventually I will get it bedlined but just haven't felt like spending the money when I haven't seen a real need yet.

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