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Old 03-11-2013, 07:37 PM   #31
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I use the amazon ones mentioned above. Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2 : Amazon.com : Automotive

The do the trick since im not looking to drop a lot of coin on lights.
Are these substantially brighter and/or have a better pattern than the stock bulbs?

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Old 03-11-2013, 07:46 PM   #32
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My solution is to stay in after dark.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:01 PM   #33
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I am only aware that my stock headlights suck because of this forum. My previous vehicle was a truck not manufactured in this century. Before that was a 2002 Liberty (same headlights). My wife drives a 2010 Patriot (same headlights). I may have to upgrade my bulbs just because I know I've got s@*t for beams.

There's a saying, "ignorance is bliss." If you own a Jeep, it's "ignorance costs less."

I'm also into HT and Hi-Fi. If I wasn't ignorant, I'd be broke.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:44 AM   #34
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I'm seriously considering instead of messing with the stock headlights, just adding a light bar/brackets and some nice KC (or other brand) fog or driving lights. I'm assuming when aimed properly they won't blind anyone.

Anyone run something like that on their night commute?
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I use the amazon ones mentioned above. Philips H13 9008 X-treme Power Headlight Bulb, Pack of 2 : Amazon.com : Automotive

The do the trick since im not looking to drop a lot of coin on lights.
Thanks for the link.
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I went to that link and its states will not fit 2013 Wrangler, am I missing something?
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:10 PM   #37
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Hey Jeepers. I also didn't like how the headlights functioned but I also didn't want to pay the outrageous price for the led replacements. I purchased a CANBUS HiD kit. $100 well spent.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:28 PM   #38
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I changed out 2 of our jeeps to better bulbs. 1 with PIAA Xtreme white plus and 1 with Sylvania SilverStar Ultras. Both work really well and much better then stock, but the lights really need to be aimed properly.
The factory housing produces a very narrow beam on lowbeam which is very noticeable with the new bulbs. Aimed just a little too high and they are literally off the road, aimed too low and the sharp cut off leaves the road black a short distance ahead.
While you are at it I would also suggest aiming the foglights. They also work well when aimed properly.
If this is not enough light for you I suggest some lightForce 170s and wire a relay through your highbeam switch. You will not need more light then that.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:34 PM   #39
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The Hella H4 replacement kit from rallylights.com is $247 with the wiring harness, not $400 as reported above. It made a world of difference on my 2013.

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Old 04-09-2013, 09:25 PM   #40
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The stock headlights are practically dangerous on dark twisty roads we have here in Colorado. I have to do something without going overboard. I'm thinking I will mount some driving lights (well-aimed) but the research has just begun.
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The Hella H4 replacement kit from rallylights.com is $247 with the wiring harness, not $400 as reported above. It made a world of difference on my 2013.

Mike
Rallylight kit worth every penny. Also super easy to install.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:43 AM   #42
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The Hella H4 replacement kit from rallylights.com is $247 with the wiring harness, not $400 as reported above. It made a world of difference on my 2013.

Mike
I have heard that the lens on the Hella E-Code H4 is GLASS and not plastic like the stock setup, is this true? Also did anyone opt for the better bulbs or just the ones that came with the kit? Before and after pics?

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Old 04-10-2013, 01:55 AM   #43
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The Hella lenses are glass. I went with the standard bulbs since the hotter ones have a shorter life span. Our winters are pretty dark, so the headlights are on all the time.

They don't look that different. However , they are much flatter than the stock plastic lights. Still curved, but not dome shaped.

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^^ love the plate!!
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Old 04-10-2013, 09:22 AM   #45
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The first is buy some new H13 bulbs. There is a certain set people like, $31 on amazon. I forget what it is.

The next thing to do is buy a new set of reflectors and a H13 to H4 adapter. Cibie and Hella mke them. This will run $250-300.
I'm a bit confused. If I buy the H13 bulbs do I need to buy the reflectors and adapter to make them work, or are those optional upgrades if I want to do more than just the bulbs?

Also, does anyone know if those bulbs are ok with '13s? The tool on amazon says they work for the 2012 but not the 2013.

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Old 04-10-2013, 09:53 AM   #46
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2013 still use H13 bulbs. They will work. But its not going to be much better than what you have now. You need to upgrade to Daniel Stern or Truck lites. I have DS and are very happy with them
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Old 04-10-2013, 10:46 AM   #47
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I installed HID lights. Now I can see. Just need to adjust them die to lift kit. Drivers keep flashing me. $120 installed. Only downside, hi beams are halogen.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:06 AM   #49
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The kit is German engineered/design. It comes with 2 ballasts, brackets, wiring, and waterproof connectors. Finally the bulbs. They use to flicker and turn off, but that was before I installed the (for lack of the correct name) capacitor, I am trouble free. I've had them on since October or 2012. Extremely bright. Literally plug and play. Take ur time on install- 20min max. I can take pics of the kit tomorrow and post them.
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^ I believe it's called a resistor
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I have the CANBUS ones installed. A little more money but the resistors are built inside the ballast
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:18 AM   #52
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Yes thank you. It truly is night and day.
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:20 AM   #53
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:30 AM   #54
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Hey guys,

I purchased 2 sets of the JW SPEAKER 8700 Evolutions -
one set for me, and one set for my wife's jk.

Although expensive these lights are definitely worth it.. I LOVE them. I can finally see the road!!! ( we live in the country where there are no street lights so good lighting is imperative)


it was hard to pick these over the trucklites due to the price difference but this video convinced me.


One thing i will warn you guys about just in case .....
If you live in Canada you require DRL's to be on during the day.
When you switch over to LED lights of any sort, you will have a problem with your lights flickering due to voltage change.(as mentioned by others) TLG auto sells aftermarket harnesses that supposed to fix the flickering problem with the lights, but this does NOT fix the DRL flickering issue. (Harness' are manufactured in California and they don't have DRL's so the harness is not designed for it)

On my 2010 JKU the DRL's were fine, you would get the odd flicker here and there but nothing noticeable especially during the day.

On my wife's 2011 JK no matter what harness you used the right headlight only would STROBE OUT when DRL's were on which was not ok.


What i ended up doing was ordering an AEV PROCAL unit for both vehicles and changed mine & my wife's DRL's to the signal lights which is still legal.

so total cost - - - it gets crazy -

$370.00 for each light x 4

4 x harness cables @ 69.95 pair

2 x Procal AEV 179.00 each

Its a lot to spend on something like lights, but for us it was definitely a safety issue at the end of the day.
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Hi

I think it is a shame that Jeep give You US folks inferior lights when we get Hella H4 standard as stock in Europe, and it is also lit auto on day time and we have a switch to alter the light height. This switch is for to lower the light when You for instance have a trailer so You dont blind other on the road.

I dont even think that Hella H4 is good and not fit for a Jeep, and You say You have worse light, shit

A Jeep should have even better light stock than a normal vehicle, because it is for offroad and there are no street lights in the backroads.

You should complain to Jeep

The stock switch to alter light height on my 2012 Sahara in Sweden



My stock lights




You can se my Hella H4 stock lights here and Dually D2. Difficult to judge from my video and I do not know how Your stock lights are in US.

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I've read what there is to read about the headlights; does anyone have any comments on PIAA fog lights for the front end? I live in a rural area with deer around every corner. I find the brights on my Islander don't emit enough light for me to see them in sufficient time when I'm cruising to the house with my mind else where. however, my fog lights and dim headlights create a better viewing spectrum for me. I'd like to install more intense fog lights and see if I can enhance that even more. Suggestions?
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:08 PM   #58
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I loved my PIAA Plasma Ion Yellow bulbs in my WJ, in the stock location they threw more light than my low beams. I'm sure the PIAA fog lamp housings are even better, but they are very expensive.

I was thinking about going with 55w KC fogs on brackets or a light bar. Don't think these would blind anyone if aimed properly. It seems the driving lights are more extreme.

To the guy from Sweden, I'm from Canada and we have the same garbage H13's in a plastic lens like the US. They skimped here and I'm sure a Wrangler is more expensive in Sweden that it is here. Unfortunately those H4's are not compatible with the daylight running lamps we have in Canada.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:20 PM   #59
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I just drove at night for the first time in the Jeep a couple nights ago. The lights are absolutely horrible. My hi-beams are not even close to the Silverado low-beams that I had. I can't believe they put these in vehicles, it's a good thing a Wrangler is measnt to go off-road cause with lights this bad you're more likely to. I didn't even bother switching to low-beams and never got flashed once.

I'll be looking into Truck Lites soon.
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Interesting thread as my JKU was just ordered never figured on a night test drive.

These H4's seem interesting

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