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Old 11-17-2011, 10:03 PM   #1
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Anyone help with head light question?

Hello,

Sylvania had silverstars for a while now. Just the last little while they finally released the silverstar ultra. Has anyone tried these yet? Im afraid to go to HID, im told some of these new conversion are pretty decent but im worried I wont have tools or something to start and finish in a reasonable time. Can anyone help with the Sylvania Ultra question? or have you converted to glass lens and was it pretty easy? I just need help and advise.

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Old 11-17-2011, 10:06 PM   #2
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You been around for a while.

Honestly-you never seen any of the Recent (long) lighting threads?

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Old 11-17-2011, 10:47 PM   #3
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Nope been away in the hospital for 4 months, sorry if I offended you. I seen a few people with different answers. I felt as though someone would be cool and help a fellow jeeper fresh out the hospital bed. Less reading more help, isnt that what we are here for?

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:18 PM   #5
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I have the ultra the gold pack ? It made a huge differnce for me .. I don't like hid so they are a bright white and clear enough for rainy days for me ... I'm getting a new bumper so I'm waiting on fog lights for now but let's say the headlights over power the fog lights by far and make them look almost orange and I have had the jeep for 4 months so no discoloured lenses either
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:31 PM   #6
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It honestly was a 20 min project .. you can take out the grill or take off the horn on the right side and left side take off that canister .. all 10 mm socket .. left side is tricky but it can be done ... Use a small screw driver for the tabs on the headlights release !
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Old 11-17-2011, 11:57 PM   #7
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scooby, so you went with the ultra's the h13 9008 i think they are? thats what im considering. Otherwise I was going to take the hit and do the replacement bulbs. I know light is brighter through glass. But if the ultra pack is great id rather save 100 bucks. So did you buy the ultras?
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Old 11-18-2011, 04:52 AM   #9
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The most BASIC fix is switch out the headlight bulbs. The Phillips x-treams were found by a couple of comparisons to be better than the Syl's. I went with the Phillips and they made a big difference. Personally the bulb switch improved the headlights to the point they work ok for me.
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scooby, so you went with the ultra's the h13 9008 i think they are? thats what im considering. Otherwise I was going to take the hit and do the replacement bulbs. I know light is brighter through glass. But if the ultra pack is great id rather save 100 bucks. So did you buy the ultras?
Yea and installed ! I have no compliants
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I highly recomend the ultra ... It's not hid but close enough a.d good enough for the average guy
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:29 PM   #13
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The Phillips Xtreme Powers are the best H13s you can get.
The Sylvanias aren't worth the cheese.


I gave a good summary HERE.

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Guess I bought too soon w/o research. I just received my PIAA bulbs. They are advertised to be as bright as much higher wattage bulbs but basic physics tells me that's likely just BS. Anything will be an improvement.
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The Phillips Xtreme Powers are the best H13s you can get.
The Sylvanias aren't worth the cheese.


I gave a good summary HERE.

And, I for one, do sympathize with people who've been laid-up for a while. After several heart attacks and a nasty fight with cancer, my 4-wheeling is all that keeps me going.
are these just plug and play or do i need to do anything else? thanks for the help!
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are these just plug and play or do i need to do anything else? thanks for the help!
Read the link to the summary ---- H13s are a direct swap.
But you still have unresolved "issues".

It all depends on how much better you want your lights.
I'm of the opinion that headlights are one of the most important safety devices on the Jeep, especially in daily driving. I believe in having the best legal lighting. (brakes and tires too)
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Read the link to the summary ---- H13s are a direct swap.
But you still have unresolved "issues".

It all depends on how much better you want your lights.
I'm of the opinion that headlights are one of the most important safety devices on the Jeep, especially in daily driving. I believe in having the best legal lighting. (brakes and tires too)
Any tips on tail lights ? Maybe switch to led bulbs? Or is there more too it ? I'm getting the rear led light bar under the gate .. more visabilty I just got rear ended a few weeks ago so I'm still parnoid .. so the led will help a bit
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Any tips on tail lights ? Maybe switch to led bulbs? Or is there more too it ? I'm getting the rear led light bar under the gate .. more visabilty I just got rear ended a few weeks ago so I'm still parnoid .. so the led will help a bit
The drop-in LED bulbs don't work right and are technically illegal (because they don't work right...). I haven't seen an LED full replacement that was worth a dang or worked well either.

I think you can still get brighter bulbs from CandlepowerStore; check with them. I don't think they'd melt your tail lens...

There are many LED drop-ins available all over the place that say "DOT Approved" and claim to be brighter than stock. Don't let this fool you.

Here's a quote from my buddy Schienwerfermann, a professional in the industry:
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No, actually "DOT approved" means someone's telling you a fib in order to get you to buy this "LED bulb". There's no such thing as "DOT approval". North American vehicle safety regulations don't work on an approval basis, they work on an autocertification basis. That may seem like nitpicky quibbling over a word, but in the technical and legal sense it is a large and very important difference. At the practical level, it means whenever someone tells you something you're considering buying is "DOT approved", either they're lying to you or they don't know enough about what they're talking about to be a reliable source of information.

Fact is, the "LED bulbs" you're using are neither legal nor safe, for reasons that it looks like have already been explained to you. You are also mistaken about the lumen levels; the "LED bulbs" produce much less light than the filament bulb that's supposed to be in the lamp. The legality issue may not bother you...until you're involved in a crash and the non-spec bulbs in your brake lights are found to have been a causal factor, at which point you're looking at being saddled with some extremely expensive liability. Don't be quick to dismiss this, it can happen and it has happened.



"candlepower" is a common term in the lighting world, and as far as I know Candlepower, Inc. has been around a great deal longer than this website. If you contact Candlepower, Inc. and ask them, they will tell you outright that their "LED bulbs" are non-DOT. They might hedge a little and say they're for "show and off road use only", but even that wouldn't be technically or legally accurate; Federal law says a regulated item of motor vehicle equipment must comply with all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards if it is physically capable of being installed on a vehicle certified by the manufacturer as complying with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. Federal law also prohibits the installation of devices or components (such as bulbs) that "render inoperative" any mandatory item of vehicle equipment. That phrase "render inoperative" is in quotes here because it means more than it looks like it means. It means a brake light (for example) is considered "inoperative" if it does not perform in accordance with the applicable regulations. It's not enough for it to light up visibly, it has to distribute the right amounts of light throughout the specified range of vertical and horizontal angles, with the required intensity ratio between the bright brake mode and the dim tail mode, and with at least the minimum required effectively-lit area. "LED bulbs" -- all of them -- render inoperative any vehicle lamp intended to take a filament bulb.
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Old 11-19-2011, 03:36 PM   #19
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"DOT approved" only applies for Cheater slick race tires like Mickey Tompson ET Streets.

Stamped right on the side wall and its gotten me out of a few tickets. Thats DOT approved for street legal drag racing classes only


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no problem bro, its all good.

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