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Old 01-25-2013, 04:15 PM   #331
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My way of thinking is there are no stupid threads, only stupid responses

I think guys who are saying sticks are for real men are just saying that in fun.

The only one's who seem to get upset are the guys who don't have a sense of humor.... and they also happen to have an auto
+1. and even if they aren't saying it in fun. . . .maybe they mean it. . . . who cares? We share our opinions and sometimes constructive feedback and along we go. Kinda like, "if you dont have anything nice to say why are you even opening your mouth?" or in this case clicking away on your keyboard. For God's Sake Man!!!! You are a Jeep owner, how can you not have a sense of humor??

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I've only been driving stick since November, It took me a month to learn and feel comfortable, I get in my Auto PT Cruiser once in a blue moon and right away my foot is looking for that clutch and my hand is getting ready to shift into 1st. I love driving manual.
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Yes Pt cruiser LOL...i love that little car, but i love my jeep more
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Yes Pt cruiser LOL...i love that little car, but i love my jeep more
lol youre a girl though so i understand.
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LOL...and a mom the boy, he'd rather me take him to school in the jeep.
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lol youre a girl though so i understand.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:41 PM   #336
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LOL...and a mom the boy, he'd rather me take him to school in the jeep.
hahaha i wonder why...
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Well, to get back to the OP's ORIGINAL question. I wish I would have sprung for the extra $1200 (?) for the auto. I have owned alot of standard shifts, my last 4x4, an F-150, had a stick. I dont have a problem with the trans in this Jeep. It's the clutch. I hate this clutch. It's too light. Lacks feel. I think the spring should be stronger. I have slipped the clutch when accelerating because my foot was touching it. (Hard to keep your foot out of the way when you have to shift 3 or 4 times in 1000 ft....) I plan to trade this 2012 for a 2014 next year, Im getting the auto. I have always liked using an auto off-road. Im always feeling the need for a 3rd foot...
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:45 PM   #338
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My way of thinking is there are no stupid threads, only stupid responses

I think guys who are saying sticks are for real men are just saying that in fun.

The only one's who seem to get upset are the guys who don't have a sense of humor.... and they also happen to have an auto
I disagree. This entire forum is being overrun with stupid stuff. It is getting like Twitter or Facebook. Look at me I bought a red one, anybody not like their green Jeep, show us your dog,etc. The list could go on and on. Is this really the purpose ? I know I don't have to read them and I'm reading fewer and fewer everyday. Pretty soon bye, bye as this and the other forum disappoint more all the time.
I know you won't miss me but that is not the point. We are here to learn about Jeeps, how to use them, modify and fix them, not to find discuss bull shit!
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:54 PM   #339
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^^says he with 200 posts. More important have you ever had a problem you haven't found an answer for? Or posted and not received help? Go ahead and take your bad attitude elsewhere.
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^^says he with 200 posts. More important have you ever had a problem you haven't found an answer for? Or posted and not received help? Go ahead and take your bad attitude elsewhere.
Says the other person with 200 posts?



As if post count means anything anyways
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #341
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My point is I've spent my years here researching jeeps and not posting it up acting as queen of the forum and telling people what they're posting about is stupid.

At 200 posts neither one of us has likely offered much valuable insight but I've gained plenty and ain't here just to gripe about the forum or its members.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:09 PM   #342
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Then you've been around long enough to know that "auto vs manual" threads bring out the most intelligent and thought provoking discussions ever imagined on any forum in the entire history of the internet! Same goes for "2dr vs 4dr" threads, "do I need to regear" threads and the ever popular "jk vs tj" threads! All filled with smart people making smart comments
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Then you've been around long enough to know that "auto vs manual" threads bring out the most intelligent and thought provoking discussions ever imagined on any forum in the entire history of the internet! Same goes for "2dr vs 4dr" threads, "do I need to regear" threads and the ever popular "jk vs tj" threads! All filled with smart people making smart comments
How about when to change your oil or what oil do you use? Does your black jeep get dirty? For those who want to jump on me, go right ahead. I don't think my attitude is bad. I have learned a lot here and I am grateful to those who assisted me in anyway. I don't post much as I am a new guy and mostly read what people who have owned Jeeps for years have to say. Stop yelling that there are no stupid posts here. There are dozens of them and more are posted everyday. I have no issues with someone asking a question to which the answer is obvious to the rest of us as long as it is a genuine question and they are sincere.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #344
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One man's trash is another man's treasure.

That goes for forum posts and transmission choices.

Personally, I drive 2 vehicles. I drive a 2005 Mustang with a manual 5 speed and a 2013 JK 2 door. I love them both for different reasons. The Mustang has a much stiffer clutch than the Jeep. The JK clutch is lighter like my son's 2008 Honda Accord which in the minds of everyone else in the family is MUCH easier to drive smoothly. The Mustang requires more precision to avoid jerkiness but is fun regardless. I like them both.

To be more on topic, I have had no trouble with my 2013 manual through 500 miles with no odd noises, rattles, rolling, popping out of gear or grinding.

The reason I prefer to drive a manual is that it gives me control of the vehicle that the auto does not. It feels more like driving a car than just riding in one.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:41 PM   #345
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Thought

If you are following this thread and trying to find some guidance on which to purchase I'd highly suggest you find a dealer willing to allow you to drive both. While test driving BOTH trannies try and drive in the condition that will dominate your time in the Jeep. This should give you a better idea of what will fit YOUR driving needs.

I have just over 600 miles on my '13 JKU w manual and love it. The manual tranny provides the rustic feel that I was looking for.

Are there times when an auto would be nice? Absolutely. But for what I want out of MY Jeep the manual is the best fit...

Good luck with YOUR choice. If it doesn't work out the resale is one strong asset from everything I've researched. Life is too short to be miserable!

PS - most of the 600 miles have been crawling along < 10mph looking for a wiley predator....
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Old 01-26-2013, 06:17 PM   #346
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Started out driving manual, then went back on forth on a couple vehicles. My last vehicle was an auto, and for me, I just felt disconnected to the vehicle. When I order my current Jeep, it had to be manual. I have no regrets.
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Old 01-27-2013, 06:42 PM   #347
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got the six speed love it always favored a stick plus average 21mpg mixed driving with a 3.8
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Manual 6 and love it.
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:31 PM   #349
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Manual and would not have an auto.

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I regret getting an auto.

Hey, you guys that regret getting a manual, I'll trade ya! I have a 2008 with 26000 miles on it, flame red, base model, only options are power steering, carpet, vinyl seats, and 3.73s...
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:13 PM   #351
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I regret getting an auto.

Hey, you guys that regret getting a manual, I'll trade ya! I have a 2008 with 26000 miles on it, flame red, base model, only options are power steering, carpet, vinyl seats, and 3.73s...
Haha they all come with powr steering and carpet
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:29 PM   #352
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Totally awesome for wheeling and fun!! But sucks balls when stuck in rush hour traffic. If you have a good/short commute than your're good to go. If it's gonna be your daily driver, and you have stop and go traffic, then it's no fun. Luv mine on the weekends and around my farm, but hate it in rush hour. If you have a 2nd car for commuting, then get the manual. You'll love it more than an auto.
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:54 PM   #353
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Had a 2009 JKR with 4 speed auto. Traded it for a 2013 JKR with 6 speed manual. Loving the new 3.6 AND the 6 speed manual (not to mention the new interior, heated leather seats and Bluetooth).
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6 speed jkur 2013, love it! i thought i might regret it but my lifestyle doesn't not play into negatives of having one (stop and go commute etc ...) no regrets!
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Totally awesome for wheeling and fun!! But sucks balls when stuck in rush hour traffic. If you have a good/short commute than your're good to go. If it's gonna be your daily driver, and you have stop and go traffic, then it's no fun. Luv mine on the weekends and around my farm, but hate it in rush hour. If you have a 2nd car for commuting, then get the manual. You'll love it more than an auto.
I am the opposite. I get jammed in stop and go everyday, and I prefer the manual. With the 3.73 axle ratio it just crawls along. My other manual car is a PITA in traffic; first gear is way too long and causes you to de-clutch and clutch all the time. With the jeep, i just saunter along.
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Are you kidding? Yeah right. Stick is the way to go. With any vehicle.
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Old 04-08-2013, 01:12 AM   #357
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6 speed manual here and I wouldn't have even considered the auto. When ordering, that was one of the main options I had to have. Automatic Wranglers just don't do it or appeal to me at all. Maybe when I'm older ill think different or appreciate that option more. I understand it's pros... Don't get me wrong. Traffic congestion, extreme offroading, and etc... Auto just isn't me. I like to actually feel like I'm driving and am in total control.
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I have had both and wheeled every type of terrain. If your going to be rock crawling I say go auto it will make life easy. Mud sand ie anything else manual.
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Haha they all come with powr steering and carpet
My jeep dealer had one that had a vinyl floor. They were used but i assumed that was a factory option. Base model is cool though, light doors.
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When I bought mine, they had the color I wanted, but in an auto. I made them go find me one like it with a 6-speed and I've never regretted it. That's a 180-degree turnaround for me; when I bought the car that my Jeep replaced, I was equally insistent on an auto tranny.

The only time I wish I had a manual is when the doors are off. I can and do shift without the clutch for the most part, but ya still have to pull your foot in to get started when the light turns green. The clutch is light enough that stop-and-go traffic isn't a problem and it creeps slowly enough in 1st (even with the 3.21s) that I can avoid a lot of shifting.

I have heard that autos are better on the trail, but I don't wheel very much and the couple times I have, I didn't have any shifting problems on the mild terrain that I prefer to traverse.

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