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Old 04-08-2013, 07:33 AM   #361
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It's my daily driver and I love it. its safer because it keeps me from using a phone unless its hands free.

After a couple of weeks of driving, I didn't even think about shifting gears. I just do it automatically. (No pun intended.)

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Old 04-08-2013, 08:37 AM   #362
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It's my daily driver and I love it. its safer because it keeps me from using a phone unless its hands free.

After a couple of weeks of driving, I didn't even think about shifting gears. I just do it automatically. (No pun intended.)
Youre doing it wrong then

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Old 04-08-2013, 04:56 PM   #363
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I love it. I deliberately chose a 6 speed manual because I wanted to have control of the gear changes. It irks me when a vehicle makes decisions for me.

I have to smile when I hear people hitch up their belts and boast that they can drive a stick as if it's a skill akin to fabricating a hovercraft from an oil drum and an old lawnmower, walking barefoot on broken glass, or successfully executing a roundhouse kick without knocking over the water cooler. Where I come from, teenage girls drive sticks. And they change left-handed...
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I have to smile when I hear people hitch up their belts and boast that they can drive a stick as if it's a skill akin to fabricating a hovercraft from an oil drum and an old lawnmower, walking barefoot on broken glass, or successfully executing a roundhouse kick without knocking over the water cooler. Where I come from, teenage girls drive sticks. And they change left-handed...
Where I'm from, very few people know how to drive stick.. I think it's just the younger generation (my generation) though. There is some people who can drive stick, but most people are surprised when they see I drive a manual and question how I'm able to do it. I guess people don't realize how easy it really is, I don't look at it as a big deal at all.
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It irks me when a vehicle makes decisions for me.
Taking back the transmission helps. But it doesn't address all of the other "fly by wire" stuff in a JK, like ESP. I wish I could disable that permanently. I would love to re-learn how to drive a vehicle without all of the computer assistance.
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I'm getting the bully dog programmer this week. Because one o the fictions says it can disable the. ESP. Amongst numerous other things.
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I'm getting the bully dog programmer this week. Because one o the fictions says it can disable the. ESP. Amongst numerous other things.
Nice. I got the AEV ProCal and I don't think it does.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:29 PM   #368
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Taking back the transmission helps. But it doesn't address all of the other "fly by wire" stuff in a JK, like ESP. I wish I could disable that permanently. I would love to re-learn how to drive a vehicle without all of the computer assistance.
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I'm getting the bully dog programmer this week. Because one o the fictions says it can disable the. ESP. Amongst numerous other things.
KILLING ESP
I haven't done it myself but I found a way to do it for free (if it works). It's in a thread I created on the 2nd Post.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/man...le-155357.html
I know that you can at least git rid of the seat-belt chime if nothing else.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:31 PM   #369
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On my 2008 you can permanently disable the esp and its in the manual.

But its too easy to get stuck without it. Disables the brake lock differential feature
There should be a way to drag the brake on one wheel manually
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:43 PM   #370
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Where I'm from, very few people know how to drive stick.. I think it's just the younger generation (my generation) though. There is some people who can drive stick, but most people are surprised when they see I drive a manual and question how I'm able to do it. I guess people don't realize how easy it really is, I don't look at it as a big deal at all.
at one point you had three pedals for the transmission, a lever for the throttle, and an advance/retard lever for the ignition. People still managed to drive those....
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:52 PM   #371
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People are lazy these days.


I love my 6sp.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:15 PM   #372
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My son took his drivers test in my TJ with a manual.
The school had to call back after checking if it was ok or not.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:24 PM   #373
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There are two vehicles in this world that should have manual transmissions. Corvettes and Jeeps.
I've had mine for 2 week now and LOVE it although a deeper axle gear is in the list of things to do because of the 33's I had to have. It does take some getting used to finding 6th gear but that is just a learning curve. I got mine so when I do tow I can have compression braking when I'm overloaded (don't judge me-I'm sensitive )
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:24 PM   #374
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I drive my 6speed for a living. Spend about half my day behind the wheel. Wouldn't trade it for anything.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:55 PM   #375
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Yes

6 speed manual is my daily driver. I love it and would rather have it than an automatic...

Only negative is reverse(in high gear). You really have to slip or for longer roads let out and just use the brake to slow down(it wont die on you). Only regret for me is the 3.21 ratio on the sport, its worth the upgrade.... definitely will be changing that at some point...

Back to business... Yeah the stick wobbles a bit but its a jeep. If you don't know how to drive a stick its among the harder to learn on(I DID). Probably 15% of people around where I live drive manuals so if your in one of those areas you will automatically be better than 85% of people!

All in all: GET the 6 speed, you know you want it!
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:56 PM   #376
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Manual 6 speed and love it
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:56 PM   #377
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Just got the new jk with the 6 speed a week ago. Love it. Got it home and all 3 boys took it for a long test drive when I got it home. 20 and 18 year old have standards in their cars and had no trouble getting use to this one. 16 year old did pretty good also. Would not change it for an auto.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:30 PM   #378
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No regrets what so ever! Like others have said there seem to be very few who actually know how to drive stick. I love mine
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:01 PM   #379
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I learned to drive in a 71 GTO which was a stick. My first couple of trucks where a manual.

Later in years my mom bought a jeep eliminator that was manual.

The last ten years all my vehicles have been automatic.

I just bought a 2013 2 door wrangler which is auto.

Lazy ? Maybe...I have done my time with manual trannies I guess .
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:21 PM   #380
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The manual is numb, clunky, fussy, and vocal. Although i wouldn't trade for an auto. Ever. Love it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:25 PM   #381
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I always had an automatic until just recently when I bought my first Wrangler and even though I don't have the manual down quite yet, I still enjoy it more than an automatic. You are more in control of the vehicle with a manual.
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I've had 3 sports cars that were only available in manual. I'm happy I'm in an automatic now.
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:33 PM   #383
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Had the auto in my 08 Jk. Now have the 6-speed in my Tj. Glad I changed.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:20 AM   #384
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I notice no one accepted my trade offer. I guess that manual isnt so bad after all?

I forgot to mention this story. Im a trucker. 90% of all big rigs are manual. 10 to 18 speeds. I have an automatic.

GIVE ME MY CLUTCH PEDAL BACK!

Supposed to be getting another truck this month....

How come no one wants to have manual advance/retard anymore?

Oh and i had a girlfriend who thought they didnt make manual transmission cars anymore. Wtf.....
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Old 04-10-2013, 11:47 AM   #385
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I opted for the 6-speed also. For me it's just a different experience. I feel more connected when I have to shift gears. It took me a while to learn not to keep my hand on the shifter while driving though. A couple big pot holes and bruises from the shifter smacking my hand and from the impact and I'm all set now. I learned to drive in a stick (driving in a right hand drive car - shifting with the left hand) and it comes back instantly. I do have to be a little careful when I drive my wife's car though, as I've hit her brake pedal a few times when coming to a stop and trying to depress her "clutch".

If I were driving my Jeep only to get from point A to point B, I would probably get an auto. I love having a manual and wouldn't want it any other way.
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Anyone keep hitting their left foot on the odb port when stepping on/off the clutch?
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Anyone keep hitting their left foot on the odb port when stepping on/off the clutch?
Can't say I have that problem.
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Can't say I have that problem.
I can't say that I have that problem, either. However, the port does seem to be lower than one would expect. I wanted to install my Ultra Gauge on my OBD II port, but the connector for the gauge probably would get in the way.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:25 PM   #389
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Love that the manual does move around based on the axle movements - never would get an automatic especially in a Jeep! The 2013's starting with the Sport S should have hill start assist too. Not my favorite but it might help some people decide.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:41 PM   #390
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Had the auto in my 08 Jk. Now have the 6-speed in my Tj. Glad I changed.
Ditto. I drove the manual but it just wasn't the same.

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