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Old 06-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #121
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Got the automatic now after several different vehicles with manuals and wouldn't have it any other way. You can still manually shift it too. It's great for living in the city. Screw the haters and what they think is or isn't a jeep. It's yours so get what you want.

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:50 AM   #122
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Now these "Kid's" were hag'n out as well.

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All of those "Cat's" up there were "Jeep's"!

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:58 AM   #123
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I bought mine with only having driven a stick briefly a few times. It took about 3-4 days before I was pretty good and not stalling.
Well, once you've got it down, you've got it down. There's no forgetting it. When I drove a manual JK to test it before I bought my LJ, it was like I left the country yesterday. I took off from a standing start and never stalled. It was almost like driving a'79 Chevrolet Custom Deluxe pickup with a manual transmission. I enjoyed those few minutes of driving it! And it had been 21 years since I lost my last manual car in a crash.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:09 AM   #124
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Hey Jimbo,

"No Insult Takin" My Friend!

I do not believe anyone here ever mentioned altitude, except you and I?

I just like to take photo's and you had mentioned 7000', so I figured I would show you 14,260 is all?

It's Awesome Indeed!

This only 1/2 way up, which would be 7,130:

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:16 AM   #125
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Depends on who you ask.. I have heard that Jeep is going with some sort of new trans on the Liberty.. something like (don't quote me) 9 speed?.. Just doing this to save on gas.. and I'm assuming its an automatic.. cause I doubt anyone would cycle through all those gears in a manual.
From a 4-speed to a 9-speed. Wow.

The FWD Chrysler models (which is what the new Liberty will be) will be ditching the old 6-speed auto for the 9-speed. It is a very real possibility that the new Liberty will have it. If I recall, it's also getting a 3.2L Pentastar as well.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:16 AM   #126
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I regret my man getting a manual Jeep because I can't drive it. Does that count?
My wife wasn't thrilled initially. She practiced and now can drive it without any problems.

Mine had the 4th gear problems, but it's been fixed now. It's lots of fun to drive.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:20 AM   #127
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From a 4-speed to a 9-speed. Wow.

The FWD Chrysler models (which is what the new Liberty will be) will be ditching the old 6-speed auto for the 9-speed.
Wonderful... I suppose a shade-tree mechanic won't be able to work on it?
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:26 AM   #128
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So is it strange that I'll take power windows/locks/mirrors/seats/steering column/pedals, touch screen navigation, heated and cooled leather seats, heated and cooled cup holders, heated steering wheel, auto adjusting cruise control, a full size sunroof, pretty much everything that would be available, EXCEPT the auto transmission?
Not strange at all. I say, when buying your dream vehicle, get it exactly how you want it. Too bad so many on this forum want to say that you have "less of a Jeep" if it's not equipped just like theirs. I got mine exactly how I wanted it. That being said, I'd also like to own a 2 door with a 6 speed, too. It would be fun to mix it up!
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:27 AM   #129
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6 speed but my Rubi came with power windows and locks.
Am I a partial sissy ?
It's OK, since you paid the price of such nice options!

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Old 06-06-2012, 09:52 AM   #130
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I think Jimbox pouts a lot for a guy who goes to the Mustang Ranch as he put up some pics of this establishment in a different thread...just kidding Jim..
I drive standard but don't mind automatic since I tried my friends automatic in 4' of snow on a frozen lake. No need to downshift when on the verge on getting stuck, like I had to do with my manual a lot.....just "pedal to the metal"
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Old 06-06-2012, 11:40 AM   #131
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I had a 2007 Wrangler X 2dr with a manual transmission that I absolutely loved. The shift was very smooth. I now have a 2012 Unlimited and chose to go with the automatic simply because the clutch lets out so high (and I have short legs) that my knee would hit the steering wheel when I shifted. Other than that, I would have gone back with the manual. Like some others have said, not many people could drive my 07.
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:34 PM   #132
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2011 manual with 6 speeds. It's nice having the overdrive gear for highway speeds. Mixed driving on highway and city... no regrets. I enjoy driving manuals period. The one time I switched to a "paddle shifting" automatic, it felt sterile and soul-less to me. Plus my left foot got bored. I like to "drive".
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:43 PM   #133
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I drive in VERY bad traffic everyday and I have a 5speed manual. Not a problem in traffic. Just gotta leave extra distance between you and he vehicle in front of you.
If you leave room in front in SF or LA traffic it will take twice the time to get where you're going. OK perhaps a bit of an exaggeration but not far from the truth.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:00 AM   #134
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I have a manual. Love everything about it.. Except..... My shifter knob keeps coming loose, that's about it. I do love it, because i let my brother drive home (which was maybe 200 feet) and he drives a 2005 Dodge Neon Automatic.. That was hilarious!
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I have the 2012 sport with a 6spd. I'm not going to lie, it took me a while to get used to it. First gear feels weird for me, especially just creeping in parking lots. It feels like if I let go of the throttle at all it feels like the car just wants to slow down as fast as possible (kindof jerks a little). On the positive note, It's fun to drive.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:36 AM   #136
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I regret getting a manual; I just don't have time to read all 600+ pages of the damned thing.



Okay, seriously, I wouldn't have it any other way. IMO, Jeeps shouldn't even be available with automatics. It's one of those vehicles where people say, "You gotta have the manual!"

FWIW, my gearshift vibrates like crazy; sometimes it vibrates so much I'm almost certain it's gonna pop right outta gear!
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:04 AM   #137
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I have a manual. Love everything about it.. Except..... My shifter knob keeps coming loose, that's about it. I do love it, because i let my brother drive home (which was maybe 200 feet) and he drives a 2005 Dodge Neon Automatic.. That was hilarious!
My husband's did the same thing in the tow pig. It would rattle and pull off.

I fixed it by putting a single layer of electrical tape over the top of the shift lever and then shoving the handle back down over it. It gave just enough thickness that it tightened it up. It's been that way a year or more, still nice and tight.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:11 AM   #138
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I have always loved driving a stick. Any time I had a choice, that was what I drove.
That being said, when it was time to buy this Jeep I had some issues with my hind legs and decided that I would buy the auto.
I don't regret it one bit.

Compared to my older Jeeps that had the standard transmissions, this one is a JOY to wheel. One less pedal to worry about when you're facing the sky and your leg starts to get the adrenalin shakes.

No, I do not think it accelerates as fast as a stick would but I have gearing (5.13s) that makes it an incredibly competent trail rig. When riding trails I shift it all day long and it works like a champ. I seldom use my brakes going down hill. This is due, largely in part to the gearing.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:12 AM   #139
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I regret getting a manual; I just don't have time to read all 600+ pages of the damned thing.



Okay, seriously, I wouldn't have it any other way. IMO, Jeeps shouldn't even be available with automatics. It's one of those vehicles where people say, "You gotta have the manual!"

FWIW, my gearshift vibrates like crazy; sometimes it vibrates so much I'm almost certain it's gonna pop right outta gear!
I gotta disagree. I feel that way about a muscle car. I've owned 4 Camaros and 1 GTO and they MUST be manual! No other way around it. However, stick or auto in a Wrangler, no difference in the "real Jeep" category. Is it 4WD? Of course, it's a Jeep, so it's REAL.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:49 AM   #140
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My liberty was an auto and it was boring to drive. Jk is a stick and I love it.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:55 AM   #141
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My wife has a 2007 Rubicon JKU with the automatic transmission. I'm looking to pick up a 2012 or 2013 and have been thinking of getting a manual. Test drove one and only thing I didn't like was how the shifter vibrated like crazy on bumps in the road, kind of like a manual big rig. Maybe that's part of the whole Jeep experience

Positives for a manual:

Nobody will borrow my Jeep since nobody else I know (other than my wife) knows how to drive a stick anymore. It's also a heck of a lot cheaper.

Positives for automatic:

Easier to tow with, especially backing the trailer into tight spots. Gear chart for Pentastar shows the automatic can handle a slightly bigger tire than the Manual for the same gears, exact opposite for the 3.8. Could get a remote starter but that's not really necessary as these Jeep engines warm up real quick in the winter.
Have you test drove an automatic 5 speed and shifted it threw the gears, I was amazed at how well this works down shifts also. You really need to try it a few time before making up you mind. It almost the best of both worlds.
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Old 06-23-2012, 06:11 AM   #142
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I love my manual transmission on my JKU Altitude. It has been about 10 years since my last one and I really missed it. I get in my Xterra automatic and my left foot starts "looking" for the clutch.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:20 AM   #143
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Manuals are not only fun to drive, theyre generally lighter, cheaper to replace, simpler to maintain, and only a select few will want to borrow your ride!
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:04 AM   #144
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I got the manual...easiest stick I've ever drove. Believe it or not my Dodge Caliber was the sloppiest manual I've ever owned, would pop out of gear and was sometimes tough to get into gear. I also just sold my custom 300 HemiC with the Nag1 5 speed autostick and that car was a blast to drive, so with either the shiftable auto or the 6 speed manual in the Jeep you can't really go wrong.
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:20 AM   #145
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Not a bit. I use my printed owners manual fairly often.
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I love my manual transmission on my JKU Altitude. It has been about 10 years since my last one and I really missed it. I get in my Xterra automatic and my left foot starts "looking" for the clutch.
It's so funny you would say that.
To this day if I have to make an emergency stop, my left foot still looks for the clutch.
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You should clean both surfaces really well before attaching the tape.
It should hold for years and years.

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Old 06-23-2012, 11:36 AM   #148
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Our 2012 Crush JKU is a stick with the 3:73's. We love it. My last stick was my '68 Chevelle that I sold about 4 years ago and my wife and I both miss shifting. All of our other Jeeps are autos, which work great for commuting, but I tend to get bored with them.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #149
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2012 manual JK. The only thing is, wish I would have test drove an auto
tranny. It didn't even cross my mind to do that, just had it in my head that to be a "real' Jeep, it had to be a manual.

It does have more of a learning curve than most other manuals I have driven, and this coming from a person who drives a truck for a living.

So, I guess I don't really regret my purchase, but it would be nice to drive an automatic after dealing with shifting all day long. I don't use it as my daily driver for the most part, so that is not really a complaint.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:02 PM   #150
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My 2012 JKU is the first manual truck I've owned and I love it. I wouldn't have it any other way. If you truly enjoy driving you'll love the manual. The vibrations aren't that bad at all. You won't notice it

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