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Old 07-20-2012, 06:16 AM   #31
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:04 AM   #33
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$1,600 for a lift install?

No, not for the install, for the Mopar lift PARTS; just the Mopar kit itself.

My dealer quoted me $600 for parts/labor on a Rough Country lift, which they WILL warrant. They also deal with Rubicon Express and wanted $1,600, just for that lift. I'm pretty sure that was parts only as well.

I asked about AEV as some dealers in the area actually order AEV-modified vehicles but I don't think they covered the AEV lifts. I found that sort of odd, considering Chrysler does use some AEV parts (bumpers, etc.) on their MW3 models.
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I'm with you there! The #1 reason I'm yet to lift is because I've been on the hunt for a kit made in the USA. I refuse to put sub-par quality parts on my vehicle. USA materials have to meet specific requirements, unlike the foreign-made TRASH.

Thus far the only kits I've found made in the USA are the AEV and Revtek kits. If anyone knows of any others, I'm open to suggestions, but as it stands, I'm aiming for AEV.
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I'm with you there! The #1 reason I'm yet to lift is because I've been on the hunt for a kit made in the USA. I refuse to put sub-par quality parts on my vehicle. USA materials have to meet specific requirements, unlike the foreign-made TRASH.

Thus far the only kits I've found made in the USA are the AEV and Revtek kits. If anyone knows of any others, I'm open to suggestions, but as it stands, I'm aiming for AEV.
RockKrawler?

and are you sure AEV is made in the usa? their wheels are made in china.
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and are you sure AEV is made in the usa? their wheels are made in china.
Yes, AEV's kits are made in the USA. I found it on their site. If not all the kits, I do know the 2.5" DualSport is made in the USA.

Looks like I'll be looking for wheels elsewhere.
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Yes, AEV's kits are made in the USA. I found it on their site. If not all the kits, I do know the 2.5" DualSport is made in the USA.

Looks like I'll be looking for wheels elsewhere.
only their wheels are made in china.....like 99% of aftermarket wheels are.
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only their wheels are made in china.....like 99% of aftermarket wheels are.
So what are the 1% that aren't?
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If you've got the above equipment- did you need to replace the gears? If so- to what (4.56, 4.88?) Looking for someone with a 2012 JK since the tranny and engine are different from prior years. Also since Rubi's & JKUs have different gears and weight ratios.
I have the 3" Mopar/Terraflex lift in transit. But after receiving my new 305/12.5/17 Toyo MTs & wheels - I am freaking out that I've added too much weight and that I'll lose a ton of torque. I have the standard 3.21 gears and an automatic tranny. Since I am female I am not the most patient of human beings I don't want to wait until after doing the lift to find out I should've replaced the gearing.

I found the "Gear Ratio Question" thread which was very helpful (thanks MTH for the chart). I get the differences- just want to know how the standard 3.21 gears did with the modifications. And if I need to make MORE mods.

Thanks in advance and sorry for another lift post. Just couldn't find a post-er without a Rubicon or Unlimited.

Guess I'll post a response to my own thread. I switched to 305/70/17 KM2s before install. I've noticed a little difference in power but its not significant unless I have the A/C on. With the A/C on I drive "manually" and on the freeway I keep it in 4th. Not a big deal- I have the top off most of the time anyway. Otherwise its barely noticeable and I am a speed demon. I don't plan to do the re-gear for this reason- but I really, really want my 35" Toyos back. With my lift on (I got 3.5" of lift) the tires look small, my Jeep looks a little wimpy (to me) and I want the clearance back. If I decide to fork over the money for 35s down the road I'll only do it with a re-gear.
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So what are the 1% that aren't?
i think mickey thomspon wheels are made in the usa..theres the 1%
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2012 w/ 2.5" & 35's

Hi all! With two trips now to the local offroad park (www.bundyhilloffroad.com) under my belt, I can firmly say that I'm happy with how my project turned out.

I've got a 2012 Sport-S, manual trans., and an untouched 3.73, that now has a Teraflex Budget Boost (with shocks), MB72 (Discount Tire) wheels, and Goodyear 315/75R16's (35" series) Duratrac tires.

I can absolutely say that 4.10's or higher might be nice, but are NOT required; 3.73 still works, at least with the 3.6L. I have noticed that I have to pull down to 5th on some freeway hills, tho... but right now, gears are not on my "next up" list. (Cold air intake, new spare tire carrier, and front bumper, probably in that order...) If you buy tires that actually are around 35" tall (vs. my 33.8" DT's) , you might notice more.

Offroad, I sped a lot of time in 'Low,' running around in 3rd or 4th when it flattens out, and using 1st to drive over/down/through anything I've had the cojones to attempt. My Jeep is a daily-driver, and for what I'm capable of, it more than delivers. I can only imagine how low 4.55's or a 4.88 would crawl! With this new 3.6L and 35's, I bet 4.10's would be absolutely the best all-around tho. My buddy (just off camera, below) is running 4.88's on his JK-U with 37's, and says his is great.

This Jeep is WAY more capable than I ever will be--and probably was stock, too.

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i think mickey thomspon wheels are made in the usa..theres the 1%
Looks like I'll be gettin' a set of MTs!
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Looks like I'll be gettin' a set of MTs!
Sidebiters wheels are sweet
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Sidebiters wheels are sweet
I'll be lookin' at all of'em!
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RE was the best jeep suspension company out there 10 years ago except JKS. I guess now that pro comp owns them they blow?
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I have a 2012 Unlimited with dealer installed 4" Pro Comp Lift and dealer install 35s Pro Comp Muds on Pro Comp wheels Im sorry but i dont have pictures yet or know gears it has Ill look
Did the dealer do anything with the front driveshaft with this lift? I am just wondering as I see some 2012's sitting on the lot New with lift and just wonder about the front shaft.
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RE was the best jeep suspension company out there 10 years ago except JKS. I guess now that pro comp owns them they blow?
Actually I don't know what happened to RE.
They were popular with the TJ. Like mentioned, used by Mopar for awhile.
Superlift too, wonder what happened to them ?

Company's like TF and RK seem to hold the rains around here and are very competitive with their pricing.
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These have been some awesome suggestions. I can honestly say the dealer is absolute trash. I have a 2012 JKU that I got in November and haven't had the cash to do anything yet. I checked with the dealer here in Norfolk and they wanted $5800 for a three inch lift and 35's. I think I about crapped myself. I know of an aftermarket shop here that can do the work for a quarter of the price. I'm just ashamed that this dealer would charge that and get away with it.
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Hey everyone first post just got my 2012 JKU back from the shop today
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3" BDS suspension lift , FOX shocks
35'' 12.50 18 Nitto Trail Grapplers
18 inch Fuel Octane rims

I got the look i was looking for , not really any crazy terrain here on Long Island NY, a lot of beach etc , going to do some research for the closest 4x4 park .
Anyways just wanted to show some pics cant really comment on the lift as i only drove it home from the shop , felt pretty sweet tho.





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Guess I'll post a response to my own thread. I switched to 305/70/17 KM2s before install. I've noticed a little difference in power but its not significant unless I have the A/C on. With the A/C on I drive "manually" and on the freeway I keep it in 4th. Not a big deal- I have the top off most of the time anyway. Otherwise its barely noticeable and I am a speed demon. I don't plan to do the re-gear for this reason- but I really, really want my 35" Toyos back. With my lift on (I got 3.5" of lift) the tires look small, my Jeep looks a little wimpy (to me) and I want the clearance back. If I decide to fork over the money for 35s down the road I'll only do it with a re-gear.
I'm sorry I am late to this. I do have a 2012 JK Unlimited sport automatic trans and hard top. Got it stock with 3.21 and 32" tires (24S package). I since changed front bumper with winch, 4" lift with 35" tires, and side rock crawlers. I went rock crawling on a few trails rated difficult in the last few months and the jeep performed like a charm. You do however need to get the AEV ProCal module to set the ECM (car computer) for the 35" tires. This helps in performance otherwise your ride will be sluggish. Today I just got my car regeared to 4.88. Of course you need to use the AEV ProCal to program your car computer for the 4.88 gear. I can hardly wait to go rock crawling with the new gears. I am pretty sure that there will be quite an improvement over the 3.21.

I hope this helps.
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I'm with you there! The #1 reason I'm yet to lift is because I've been on the hunt for a kit made in the USA. I refuse to put sub-par quality parts on my vehicle. USA materials have to meet specific requirements, unlike the foreign-made TRASH.

Thus far the only kits I've found made in the USA are the AEV and Revtek kits. If anyone knows of any others, I'm open to suggestions, but as it stands, I'm aiming for AEV.
Have you considered maybe a Currie suspension lift. I know their manufacturing facility is in Corona, CA, and they make a great lift with Johnny joints too.

Just something to consider.
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Have you considered maybe a Currie suspension lift. I know their manufacturing facility is in Corona, CA, and they make a great lift with Johnny joints too.

Just something to consider.
Actually, I've never heard of them, but thanks for the tip! Will check'em out!
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Actually, I've never heard of them, but thanks for the tip! Will check'em out!
Welcome!

Here is their website. Currie Enterprises - Custom Rearends, Jeep/Off-road Parts, Crate Rearends, 4x4 Rearends
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I'm sorry I am late to this. I do have a 2012 JK Unlimited sport automatic trans and hard top. Got it stock with 3.21 and 32" tires (24S package). I since changed front bumper with winch, 4" lift with 35" tires, and side rock crawlers. I went rock crawling on a few trails rated difficult in the last few months and the jeep performed like a charm. You do however need to get the AEV ProCal module to set the ECM (car computer) for the 35" tires. This helps in performance otherwise your ride will be sluggish. Today I just got my car regeared to 4.88. Of course you need to use the AEV ProCal to program your car computer for the 4.88 gear. I can hardly wait to go rock crawling with the new gears. I am pretty sure that there will be quite an improvement over the 3.21.

I hope this helps.
SO how are the 4.88s? Specifically 70 and around 40mph? Very interested. I am leaning towards 4.56s. I am concerned that freeway would be 2700 RPMS or above and that seems a little high for me. But I'll do just about anything to fix the 40MPH lug. I drive 80% city.
You're in LA right? If we're ever on a trail together I'd love to compare notes.
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Hi JK'ers-
If you've got the above equipment- did you need to replace the gears? If so- to what (4.56, 4.88?) Looking for someone with a 2012 JK since the tranny and engine are different from prior years. Also since Rubi's & JKUs have different gears and weight ratios.
I have the 3" Mopar/Terraflex lift in transit. But after receiving my new 305/12.5/17 Toyo MTs & wheels - I am freaking out that I've added too much weight and that I'll lose a ton of torque. I have the standard 3.21 gears and an automatic tranny. Since I am female I am not the most patient of human beings I don't want to wait until after doing the lift to find out I should've replaced the gearing.

I found the "Gear Ratio Question" thread which was very helpful (thanks MTH for the chart). I get the differences- just want to know how the standard 3.21 gears did with the modifications. And if I need to make MORE mods.

Thanks in advance and sorry for another lift post. Just couldn't find a post-er without a Rubicon or Unlimited.
Just regeared my '12 manual with 35s from 3.73 to 4.56. It's great at 40...feels like a tank. Not that I've driven one yet but whatever. I also like it a lot more at 70+. I'm looking forward to drivin up 15 through the pass to see if it handles the hills on the highway better.
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I have 35's on my 09 Rubi... 4.10 gears of course... 6 speed... I find it marginal at low speed in first gear... you really can't putt putt unless you are in low. Now, you've got 8- more HP than me, so that might make up the difference.

For me... I wouldn't go lower than 4.10...
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I have a 12 Rubicon auto with 4.10 gearing factory, 4" lift and 35x12.50x15 Goodyear MTRs, and have no plans to gear it unless I go to 37"s. the 3.6 power buries the issues the 3.8s had with gearing. It's great on the freeway. We just geared a 12 for a customer that is running the same setup as my wife's 12 above, with the exception of his 3.73 gears. We went with 4.88s, and its about 2400 rpm at 70.

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