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Old 05-24-2013, 08:39 AM   #1
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Are the stock tires this bad?

I'm not sure if the stock tires are bad or if there is some other problem, but I have poor traction. I have a '13 unlimited sahara and I noticed that when the ground is when and when I come from a complete stop to stepping on the gas, I am skidding out. This has happened on all types of roads near my house and I've driven on the same roads, in the same way (not flooring it) with my sister's VW, a BMW, escalade and a bunch of other cars and this hasn't happened. Is this a traction control thing or is it a tire issue?

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Old 05-24-2013, 08:41 AM   #2
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Check that your tires are not over inflated. I had some MT/Rs that I had too much pressure in and I would slide everywhere in the rain. Once I lowered them, I was all good.

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Tires most likely. Better go to 12.5" wide tires for more of a contact patch. Is it just In the rain or dry pavement too?
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I've only noticed it in the rain. It's embarrassing, though. I was pulling out onto a street and was in front of a young kid in a Honda that was looking at my Jeep, then I have trouble driving in the rain! He must've been laughing
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This has been happening with my new 33x12.5x15 Duratracs too! I!researched the crap out of them before I purchased them and all the reviews I read said they were great in the rain. Could it be the inflation??
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I had that issue with the stock sra's, but not with the duratracs, and I'm running them pretty highly inflated.

The sra's also squeaked a lot in low speed turns which bugged me.
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I'm not sure if the stock tires are bad or if there is some other problem, but I have poor traction. I have a '13 unlimited sahara and I noticed that when the ground is when and when I come from a complete stop to stepping on the gas, I am skidding out. This has happened on all types of roads near my house and I've driven on the same roads, in the same way (not flooring it) with my sister's VW, a BMW, escalade and a bunch of other cars and this hasn't happened. Is this a traction control thing or is it a tire issue?
I noticed exactly that problem the other day on my stock tires, I actually fishtailed accelerating out of a junction on a damp road. I don't think Wranglers are really designed for drifting.
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Ok, good to know that I'm not the only one. Hopefully, it will go away with new tires.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:02 AM   #9
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He has a Sahara which should 18" wheels and Bridgestone Duelers. Unless the dealer did a switch on him. The Bridgestones have always been a great wet weather tire. I've had several sets on pickups, and they have been great.

Which tires do you have? Check to make sure that they aren't over inflated. Also, if they have less than 200 miles or so, they will be a little squirrely.
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Old 05-24-2013, 09:04 AM   #10
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I have a 2013 JKU Sahara as well, 18" Duelers, 9100 miles, never had this problem. And, it's rained like crazy the past few weeks.
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He has a Sahara which should 18" wheels and Bridgestone Duelers. Unless the dealer did a switch on him. The Bridgestones have always been a great wet weather tire. I've had several sets on pickups, and they have been great.

Which tires do you have? Check to make sure that they aren't over inflated. Also, if they have less than 200 miles or so, they will be a little squirrely.
I have the same vehicle as the OP with the Duelers, I'm running them at the inflation recommended on the door panel. Too much?
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I have the 13 Sahara also with the stock Duelers and have never had a problem with almost 6000 miles in 3 months. Daily driver, in all weather. I did have to correct the tire pressure when I got it as they were maxed out. I went with door sticker psi. Love this jeep.
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I have had zero problems with stock Duelers in the rain. I've actually been pretty impressed.

BUT..I will add this...

I think I "would" have problems if I didn't have limited slip.

Did everyone order Trac-Lok?
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Generally, you should run 30-32 psi. For larger tires, you can run less. If you run 35-40, the tires will have much less grip in general. Some tires are not very good in rain to begin with but very few. Try checking your air pressure first.
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I'm not sure if the stock tires are bad or if there is some other problem, but I have poor traction. I have a '13 unlimited sahara and I noticed that when the ground is when and when I come from a complete stop to stepping on the gas, I am skidding out.
Just now hit 20,000 miles with the Duelers, and haven't noticed any abnormal traction problems. They've been great tires, even in the snow. I suspect it's simply a gas pedal foot pressure issue if some folks are experiencing excessive tire spinning.

Did your Sahara come with the LSD option?
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:19 AM   #16
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I run the stock SR-A's as my winter tires and I inflate to 35 psi. I run a selectable locker and have never turned it on on the street. My tires work great in the rain. The MT/R's I run in the warmer months have performed flawlessly as well. I have no experience with the Duelers, but they certainly look like a more capable rain tire than either of my options. Perhaps all that power in the Pentastar is busting the rubber loose....
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I can get my Duratracs to spin like crazy in the rain..........if I punch it. Other than that, they grip very well. I'd check your pressure first.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:35 PM   #18
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Just now hit 20,000 miles with the Duelers, and haven't noticed any abnormal traction problems. They've been great tires, even in the snow. I suspect it's simply a gas pedal foot pressure issue if some folks are experiencing excessive tire spinning.

Did your Sahara come with the LSD option?
I wasn't pressing the gas more than I have with other cars that I haven't experienced the problem with. I'm not sure if I have LSD, but if I do, do I have to activate it somehow?
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No, LSD functions purely on it's own and can't be controlled manually.
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My tires on my Rubicon were at 44 psi from the dealer. That ride home was rough. dropped them to 36..... smooooth.
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Old 05-24-2013, 05:43 PM   #21
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I'm a little disappointed in you all, to be honest. Only jkjeeper06 has come close to the correct WF answer which would be along the lines of "this problem is best solved through the application of a minimum 2.5" lift and 35" tires".

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I wasn't pressing the gas more than I have with other cars that I haven't experienced the problem with. I'm not sure if I have LSD, but if I do, do I have to activate it somehow?


LSD isn't activated by a switch or anything. Anyway, if you want to read up on that (I think it would have been optional on your Jeep model, so check the sticker) it's technically called anti-spin rear differential. There are multiple discussions about it here and elsewhere (although many are debates about ordering it or not ordering it) Check the first page of this thread http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dsa...le-177901.html


Also, your vehicle may or may not have an optional 3.73 axle ratio. If so, depending on what you drove before, and how it was geared, you may need to lighten up on the gas pulling out in the rain. I remember when I went up to 4.56 in my old Jeep from stock. The change from what I was accustomed to driving was very noticeable in the wet when starting off from a stop.

FWIW, my money is on higher tire pressures (easy to check, fix and monitor) and the fact you're driving a very different vehicle that what you have previously.
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Thanks guys. I plan on getting different tires soon, but in the meantime I'll check the tire pressure.
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Jeeps are light in the back and what you are experiencing is no different than any other 1/2 ton, RWD truck encounters. It is very easy to spin the tires on slick pavement... the first little bit of rain brings all the contaminants to the surface and until it has rained good for a bit the pavement can be very slick.

Throw 100lbs of sand bags in the back... done.
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Thanks guys. I plan on getting different tires soon, but in the meantime I'll check the tire pressure.
Definitely check the tire pressure. It can make a huge difference, especially if you are not used to driving trucks (or similar vehicles).

Can be a huge difference in handling on pavement between low 40s and low 30s PSI.
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This has been happening with my new 33x12.5x15 Duratracs too! I!researched the crap out of them before I purchased them and all the reviews I read said they were great in the rain. Could it be the inflation??
Duratracs are phenomenal in the rain. I've driven at highways speeds during monsoon style rain and they stick like glue. I run them on the street at 30psi.
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Jeeps are light in the back and what you are experiencing is no different than any other 1/2 ton, RWD truck encounters. It is very easy to spin the tires on slick pavement... the first little bit of rain brings all the contaminants to the surface and until it has rained good for a bit the pavement can be very slick.

Throw 100lbs of sand bags in the back... done.
Actually, believe it or not, Jeep's (JKs) have 50/50 weight distribution. Agree with the rest.
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I definitely like the look of druatracs and I will probably wind up getting them and putting them on the stock rims because I don't want to spend a ton of money. Once I get new tires, do I have to do anything with the pressure sensors? I've read that some people's don't work after a tire swap.

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