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Old 04-07-2013, 10:43 PM   #31
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thanks for the pics foxsat. im gonna order one this week!

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So glad to see this review. Not many have this but I like it more than the Tuffy as it keeps the wheel well area open.

so if you had to take out the trunk to haul something or say to sleep in the jeep - how hard would that be to do? And can you just remove the top and back leaving the sides or would it be a full uninstall process?
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What secures it to the jeep. Looks like from pics that the bolts go where the hard top bolts go? Can some one just take them out and get into it? The pieces around the roll bar also look bolted in can the bolts be taken out and access?
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Yes the bolts go where the HT bolts go. I suppose I could use tamper resistant bolts. I haven't tried it, but u could leave the side panels on and remove the center and back panels to sleep or haul something in the back. It comes with the weather strip u see around the rollbar. Have not installed it on the lid yet. The back panel bolts to a square tube that bolts to the floor using existing seat bolts.
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The center sectoon(lid) is supported from the rear by two brackets that attach to either side of the cargo area. One attaches to the tailgate door striker. It goes between the stiker and the body and the other to the tie down hook near the woofer next to the tailgate door.
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I bought the aries last fall. While it did look good it had several problems and aries was no help fixing. I returned it and got the tuffy. If you ever need to pull the aries lid out to haul something it is a pretty big task. The tuffy is a piece of cake to remove and looks good.
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Thanks for the reviews. I was looking at this in the past.
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I bought the aries last fall. While it did look good it had several problems and aries was no help fixing. I returned it and got the tuffy. If you ever need to pull the aries lid out to haul something it is a pretty big task. The tuffy is a piece of cake to remove and looks good.

Is the Tuffy lid as secure or better than the Aries? Thanks
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Is the Tuffy lid as secure or better than the Aries? Thanks
I haven't actually seen the Aries anywhere other than online, but I have the large Tuffy #275 enclosure and am VERY, VERY, VERY happy with it...as I think I already said in a previous post. It's secure as long as the tailgate is locked. The sizeable recessed tray on top is a convenient bonus. Plus, it looks great (I carpeted the tray) and it's easy to remove either the front or top if necessary. I don't think the Aries looks that great...the top looks too segmented. I hope all those joints are weatherproof. From the photos above, there appears to be a considerable gap between the tailgate and the Aries lid. The top of the Tuffy is one piece and seals extremely well up against the tailgate with rubber weatherstripping.
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Thank you Moabite for the info. I still haven't installed the weatherstripe between the lid and tailgate. Im sure it will seal well. It seems like the Tuffy unit may be more practical; especially since I take my dog with me.
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Moabite, is the Tuffy unit weather proof/resistant? Any drilling or modifications?
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Moabite, is the Tuffy unit weather proof/resistant? Any drilling or modifications?

I just installed the Tuffy unit this past weekend and there is no drilling required and no mods necessary. However the instructions offer an additional step for extra security that does require some drilling but this step isn't required for installation.

From what I understand, the deck is not weatherproof. However in another thread, either a Tuffy rep or Quadratec rep said that it was designed so that any water that gets thru would be directed away from any cargo under the lid.
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Having had both installed I can say that neither is weatherproof. They would both help keep some rain out but not all. The tuffy is not as solid as the aries but still pretty good (and I haven't had any problems with it). The aries does look good but it just wasn't worth all the problems and terrible customer service. I just switched back to soft top a couple weeks ago and it wasn't nearly the chore with the tuffy that it was with the aries.
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Having had both installed I can say that neither is weatherproof. They would both help keep some rain out but not all. The tuffy is not as solid as the aries but still pretty good (and I haven't had any problems with it). The aries does look good but it just wasn't worth all the problems and terrible customer service. I just switched back to soft top a couple weeks ago and it wasn't nearly the chore with the tuffy that it was with the aries.
Thnx burton. Tuffy is the way for me
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I'm thinking this is going to be my next mod, and am erring towards the Tuffy because ease of taking it out to form a larger cargo area is quite important. Question for those who have the Tuffy - I have the factory subwoofer installed, and I want to mount an amp inside the Tuffy box to keep it secure. Is there room on the side panel next to the sub for an 18" x 8" unit to be fixed to it? I want to avoid mounting it to the back panel if possible as it would make it harder to remove. If the right side wouldn't work, how about the left?

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I'm thinking this is going to be my next mod, and am erring towards the Tuffy because ease of taking it out to form a larger cargo area is quite important. Question for those who have the Tuffy - I have the factory subwoofer installed, and I want to mount an amp inside the Tuffy box to keep it secure. Is there room on the side panel next to the sub for an 18" x 8" unit to be fixed to it? I want to avoid mounting it to the back panel if possible as it would make it harder to remove. If the right side wouldn't work, how about the left?

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Mounting it on the sub side would be really tight. It's 15" from the front panel to the plastic housing near the power outlet...and 19" to where the actual sub wall sticks out. If you spaced it out a little and mounted it to the side panel, it might work. It's exactly 8" from the Tuffy "filler bracket" to the top of the power outlet housing. It would easily fit on the driver's side...but again, part of the amp would be out over the plastic panel at the rear.
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Hmm..... thanks. I think I'm probably going to have to just buy all this stuff, then see how I can best fit it together. I'm really concerned about mounting the amp under a seat, but maybe I'm just being unnecessarily paranoid.
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sshhhhhh...don't tell anyone...my sub amp is under the passenger seat. I think you could mount it in the Tuffy though. I'm amazed at how everything "just fits" in my setup. The Trailgater table comes within a fraction of an inch of the modified sub...and just fits underneath the top rear of the Tuffy. My freezer has about 2 inches to spare between the front seat and the Tuffy box. It's like it was meant to be.
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Depending on the size of the amp, there are two EXCELLENT places to mount them (at least on the newer JK's) that are more secure and won't get wet.

(1.) That little space below the steering wheel, and (2.)where the current amp is located (stack it).

Of course if you have a larger 4 or 5 channel amp, those spots won't work.
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I found this Amazon review on the Aries helpful:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R3CQG6B...x2DUUWPDPECTCU
"This is poor quality covered in nice powder coating. All the hinge screws were stripped and some were missing. The two doors that fold were so offset it would not close. I had to remove the hinge, re-align and rivet it together as it should have been in the first place. Holes that were stamped/cut were left jagged. I have had it 6 weeks and is starting to rust."
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Forget this product. I finally saw this and was not impressed. Like the review above very cheap. Get the new tuffy security trunk for the jku. Part number 299.
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Reviews I've read seem to be 50/50 on the Aries. Ordered one from Amazon, was suppose to get it on the 10th, now they're saying I "should" get it before the 17th, still no update on tracking.
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For the aries when the top is flipped over in half (so half closed half open) how much space is there? I like the lid function I just need to know if there is enough room for the dog to stick her head out the top with half open.

For the tuffy can you have the lid on, and the back open (panel next to the seat)? I have a hardtop so I am more looking for a storage shelf with ability to go secure if I need it.
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For the aries when the top is flipped over in half (so half closed half open) how much space is there? I like the lid function I just need to know if there is enough room for the dog to stick her head out the top with half open.

For the tuffy can you have the lid on, and the back open (panel next to the seat)? I have a hardtop so I am more looking for a storage shelf with ability to go secure if I need it.

for the tuffy no.. the top panel secures to the back..
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For the aries when the top is flipped over in half (so half closed half open) how much space is there? I like the lid function I just need to know if there is enough room for the dog to stick her head out the top with half open.

For the tuffy can you have the lid on, and the back open (panel next to the seat)? I have a hardtop so I am more looking for a storage shelf with ability to go secure if I need it.
With the tuffy yes you can take the back panel out and leave the deck in. With the aries, no.
With the aries front half folded back it would depend on your dog. I have a 90 pound GS and that wouldn't have worked.
Go with the tuffy, you'll be happier with it. To many problems with the aries like somebody else also posted with things not being straight and holes being off. Plus the aries is a major PITA to remove to go from hard to soft top.
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Reviews I've read seem to be 50/50 on the Aries. Ordered one from Amazon, was suppose to get it on the 10th, now they're saying I "should" get it before the 17th, still no update on tracking.
The first aries I got was all steel and was terrible. They sent me a replacement that was aluminum and while it was lighter and better than the first it still had issues and got sent back. Hope you like it. I would have liked it a lot more if I ran topless all the time but switching from hard to soft top with the aries is a pain. Plan on getting longer bolts to mount to tub if you run a hardtop. Also, one of the reasons it got sent back is the holes that were punched where it bolts to the tub were off. I had to cut them out to be able to get bolts thru. And then they kept putting me off when I called them about it and they said they would ship me new "correctly stamped" parts. Maybe they have fixed that issue by now.
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The first aries I got was all steel and was terrible. They sent me a replacement that was aluminum and while it was lighter and better than the first it still had issues and got sent back. Hope you like it. I would have liked it a lot more if I ran topless all the time but switching from hard to soft top with the aries is a pain. Plan on getting longer bolts to mount to tub if you run a hardtop.
Yeah, hoping they fixed the problems with the hardware and bent brackets. I run no doors/safari top 6+ months out of the year, Trektop NX the rest of the time. I just needed something that was metal and water resistant, and I like how the Aries covers the entire trunk section vs the gaps by the wheel wells with the Tuffy. What part is a pain switching from soft to hard top? I doubt I'm ever going to remove the cargo lid once it's installed.
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Yeah, hoping they fixed the problems with the hardware and bent brackets. I run no doors/safari top 6+ months out of the year, Trektop NX the rest of the time. I just needed something that was metal and water resistant, and I like how the Aries covers the entire trunk section vs the gaps by the wheel wells with the Tuffy. What part is a pain switching from soft to hard top? I doubt I'm ever going to remove the cargo lid once it's installed.
If you never run a hardtop, and they got the other probems fixed, you'll probably like it. I liked the way it looks and it was solid. The latching mechanism also didn't want to lign up worth a crap and on my first one (the steel one) it was held in place with sheet metal screws, a couple of which were stripped and anybody with a phillips screwdriver could take out. The second one (aluminum) was rivetted on but still didn't lign up very good.
The pain part was that the lid mounts to the tub same place the HT does. The HT sits on top of the aries. Getting all the holes ligned up was a PITA since the inserts on the jeep move around. And the bolts that came with mine were to short to use with the HT. You may also notice a gap on the front part between HT and tub since the aries doesn't go all the way up there. But since you dont use a HT I guess that isn't going to be an issue. Hope you dont have any problems with it that need customer service.

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