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Old 07-17-2012, 07:53 PM   #31
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I've been told by quite a few auto detailers not to use armor all type products on my vehicle unless I use them every time I wash. Never had dry rot or cracked tires before. One car wash uses some leather cream on my tires and plastic. I forget the last time mine was detailed...

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Old 07-17-2012, 07:57 PM   #32
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I've heard this rumor before, that it dry rots tires, used it all the time on my Mustang and the tires were fine. I don't think anyone who uses this on their daily driver has to worry.

I find the comments about armorall interesting. I've always heard people say that the stuff for the interior drys out the plastic prematurely. I guess the only way to disprove this is to have someone buy a new jeep, armorall half of it and tell us how it looks 7 years later....

I'll look around at work to see if we still have the tire signs. I'll take pics of treated vs. non-treated.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:45 AM   #33
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Hey, don't shoot the messanger. I figured it was important enough to let the community know. If you think it is bogus, then I am not going to try to convince you otherwise - just trying to help people out.


I will, next time I see him, ask him how old the tires were, how many times he applied..etc.


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Old 07-18-2012, 12:36 PM   #34
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The messenger would be your neighbor... We can shoot him, yeah? Lol
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:04 AM   #35
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all tires have a date code on them, you should always check it when buying new tires to make sure your not buying a 4 year old tire that only has 2 years left. Tires are only really good for 6 years. Not saying you can't use them longer.

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You will get a lot of conflicting comments about AA, I was manager of the detailing dept' for Toyota years ago & personally do not like the stuff but dry rot? I really have no idea of it does that
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:51 AM   #37
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i know for sure in the eighties, reg aa did in fact cause dry rot on tires. have never used yhe tire formula.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:49 AM   #38
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I'm pretty sure the tire foam caused the dry rot. Maybe he was using it too much or whatever, but still. I don't see a reason for him to lie to me either so I won't be taking the chance!
I wouldn't assume he's lying. But, there are a lot of people who see coincidence and call it fact.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:17 PM   #40
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all tires have a date code on them, you should always check it when buying new tires to make sure your not buying a 4 year old tire that only has 2 years left. Tires are only really good for 6 years. Not saying you can't use them longer.

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Good to know! Thanks for the info!
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:29 PM   #41
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Personally i think its a combination of the tire and the shine. I have actually had 3 sets of tires dry rot. one car was washed twice a week and use foam tire shine (not armorall brand) and the tires were rotted after 3 months. I was told that the shine clogs the pores of the rubber and causes the rot. How true this is i couldnt tell ya.... I also bought 2 sets of bfg from BJs Wholsale (at the same time) after a year they each showed dry rot. these tires did get tire (non foam) shine but only about once a month.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:44 PM   #42
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I only use Armor All on my steering wheel and brake pedal.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:44 PM   #43
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I only use Armor All on my steering wheel and brake pedal.

My wife thought she would be helpful and wide down my motorcycle once. Yep, a motorcycle seat sure does shine covered in Armor All.
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Hey everybody. My friend is part of this forum so I joined up... then I saw this post and had to write back. Armor All, like Meguiar's, Turtle Wax, and Mother's are great companies with extensive R&D departments which work on these products for years. These tire products certainly do not cause dry rot.

I happen to love Jeeps so I signed up to this forum as a non-researcher....Please note that this post is made by me personally and does not reflect the opinions or thoughts of my company. In full disclosure, I am a market researcher for automotive products (specifically Armor All) and love listening to people talk about any automotive products- the good, the bad, and the ugly...what works and what doesn't.

Legitimate complaints about performance are one thing, but unfounded comments by people who never even try the product are another.

If any of you ever have concerns about products, please call the companies. If they aren't happy to answer your questions with truth and integrity, you shouldn't use their products.
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Well I once heard from my neighbor that Coke can weaken a nail overnight if submerged. False.

Personally I don't use the Original formula AA on my interior. One its two shiney. Second if AA does warn against interiors it's because the stuff is too slick. People put it on their steering wheels and brake/gas pedals. Also you can probably get a bad sun glare if the conditions were right. I mean they also say not to use on motorcyle seats or tires. For obvious reasons. Safety.
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Im sending this to mythbusters! We shall see....
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Well I once heard from my neighbor that Coke can weaken a nail overnight if submerged. False.

Personally I don't use the Original formula AA on my interior. One its two shiney. Second if AA does warn against interiors it's because the stuff is too slick. People put it on their steering wheels and brake/gas pedals. Also you can probably get a bad sun glare if the conditions were right. I mean they also say not to use on motorcyle seats or tires. For obvious reasons. Safety.
Obiviously. I was making a point that my wife wasn't thinking when she did it. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Yes it made the seat slick for quite a while.

BTW, After seeing the safety problems it could cause, she never did it again.
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I've used that stuff for years and the only dry rot I've ever encountered on a tire has been on my horse trailer that sits out in field in the elements year round barely getting used.

I'm sorry, but your neighbor is a bit of an idiot and is blaming a product for something that happened b/c he was too cheap to replace tires that were going bad b/c of mother nature.
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Loving the big alert post with "no first hand experience".

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Old 07-19-2012, 09:34 PM   #51
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Armorall is silcone and Glycerin. For all practical purposes it is inert as far as your tires are concerned. It will protect them a bit from ultraviolet and oxygen damage. It won't hurt them at all. It is mostly cosmetic.

In fact some tests were done on Vinyl and Tire Rubber a few years ago and posted on the old CIS RV forums. After a year of hard normal use and water and sunlight exposure the Armorall stuff was in slightly better shape.

It contains no alcohol.

It won't hurt a thing. I suppose there might be some materials that could react negatively with one of the compounds, so it might be worth a test in some rare case. But it won't hurt tires or vinyl, leather, etc. Stop the urban legends.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:44 PM   #52
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WOW, yep its there, page 544 in mine (5th edition)

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Interior Care
Use MOPAR Total Clean or equivalent to clean fabric
upholstery and carpeting.
Interior Trim should be cleaned starting with a damp
cloth, a damp cloth with MOPAR Total Clean or equivalent, then MOPARSpot & Stain Remover or equivalent
if absolutely necessary. Do not use harsh cleaners or
Armor All. Use MOPAR Total Clean or equivalent to
clean vinyl upholstery.
===============

I just sent armor all a question about this, see if they respond.

Okay, I got the answer back from AA

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July 19, 2012
Reference Number: 8010671
Dear Mr. xxx,
Thank you for contacting us about your Armor All Protectant. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. We would not be able to answer that question for you. Please contact your Jeep dealer. Again, thank you for contacting us.

Sincerely,
Victoria Wolf Consumer Response Representative Consumer Services
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My question to them, was why the owner's manual specifically does not recommend AA ( I quoted the OM )?

Well that clears things up, doesn't it????? Contact the dealer.
Guess AA doesn't care.
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Okay, I got the answer back from AA

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Dear Mr. xxx,
Thank you for contacting us about your Armor All Protectant. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. We would not be able to answer that question for you. Please contact your Jeep dealer. Again, thank you for contacting us.

Sincerely,
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My question to them, was why the owner's manual specifically does not recommend AA ( I quoted the OM )?

Well that clears things up, doesn't it????? Contact the dealer.
Guess AA doesn't care.
You quoted the OM so AA gave you the legal answer. I wouldn't be surprised if AA contacts Jeep about that though if they didn't already know they were mentioned.

Pretty sure this stems from putting it on the older wranglers though. I did it once in my yj. Never did it again. Couldn't keep my butt in my seat to shift. Lmao.
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I'm pretty sure the tire foam caused the dry rot. Maybe he was using it too much or whatever, but still. I don't see a reason for him to lie to me either so I won't be taking the chance!
Logically, as in real logic, this is such a gross fallacy that I have to pass... (sigh).
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My question to them, was why the owner's manual specifically does not recommend AA...
Okay, it's late and I usually don't answer like this, but what a stupid comment, sorry. They don't recommend rubbing whale sperm on it either, or cat piss, or kool aid, or curry, or... You get the idea.

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Okay, I got the answer back from AA

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Dear Mr. xxx,
Thank you for contacting us about your Armor All Protectant. We always appreciate hearing from our consumers. We would not be able to answer that question for you. Please contact your Jeep dealer. Again, thank you for contacting us.

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My question to them, was why the owner's manual specifically does not recommend AA ( I quoted the OM )?

Well that clears things up, doesn't it????? Contact the dealer.
Guess AA doesn't care.

It's not that AA doesnt care, but the person who read your email has no idea why, or has been instructed to give that answer based on legal views. Your email was one of 5,000 a day they probably get. They gave you the right answer, contact the dealer, although they will have as little knowledge as AA. So now you need to contact the engineers and authors of the owners manual.

Also, AA is a slick substance and is well known by everyone so it would be appropiate to single them out. If someone uses it on brake pedals or steering wheels it could be a liability if a accident occurs. Lastly MOPAR would rather sell you MOPAR brand dressing, basically the same thing, for more money.
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Okay, it's late and I usually don't answer like this, but what a stupid comment, sorry. They don't recommend rubbing whale sperm on it either, or cat piss, or kool aid, or curry, or... You get the idea.

Good night and apologies.
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Nope, I don't get it. In your owner's manual on page 544 Armor All and only Armor All is specifically called out not to use, whale sperm, cat piss, kool air or curry are not mentioned.

I thought Armor All might defend their product and have some explanation and some people would find in the information useful; apparently I was in error, but I honestly didn't expect a personal attack.

Guess this thread should be closed.
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IMO /thread after the 2nd post. There should be nothing shiney on a Jeep tire. Ever.
U should take a belt sander to your paint job. That would get rid of the shine for good. Nothing wrong with your rig looking dressed up sometimes.
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U should take a belt sander to your paint job. That would get rid of the shine for good. Nothing wrong with your rig looking dressed up sometimes.
Yes there is. We all know how cool it is to be drivin' around in a ratty-ass lookin' vehicle. I mean, why would we ever want our vehicles we spent our hard-earned cash on to look like anything more than the requisite trailer-park front-lawn flowerpot?
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Yes there is. We all know how cool it is to be drivin' around in a ratty-ass lookin' vehicle. I mean, why would we ever want our vehicles we spent our hard-earned cash on to look like anything more than the requisite trailer-park front-lawn flowerpot?
Lol wow!! Im always happy to get it dirty, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't live getting it nice and clean again! Armor all extreme for the tires, lasts for weeks!

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