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Old 02-01-2011, 02:48 AM   #1
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Asking for advice...

Whats up guys? I posted this on the new user forum and it was recommended that I post it here as well...

Going to look at, and hopefully purchase, a 2 Door JK tomorrow.

Would like some advice on what kind of lift (how many "s, what brand, etc) to get to roll some 20s on 35s.
(20x8.5 Black XD Rockstar Wheels w/ Nitto Mud Grappler 35x12.5x20 Tires)

I was told by a friend that OME is a great brand, but it seems like the suspension lift kit is just shocks and springs.
(Old Man Emu; Suspension Lift Kit-RH1)

I called the 4WheelParts store about a mile away and they suggested the Pro Comp 2.5" lift for $504. He said installed and everything out the door would be $975.

For now I will just be driving it around town, to and from work (~20 mi/day).

Also interested in buying some painted black fenders. The JK I'm looking at has the grayish textured plastic fenders and I want them to look smooth like the Saharas. Am I able to put replacement Sahara fender flares on my X? I called a reputable shop that quoted me $150 per fender flare to paint them, but also said it would be nobby/texturized still. I'd rather just buy some MOPAR Sahara replacements, if they'll fit, for about the same price.
(MOPAR 5KC87TZZAG - Mopar® Left Front Drivers Side Flare for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited Sahara - Quadratec)

The lady also quoted me $350 - $400 to paint the hard top as well, which I plan on doing.

Any input on anything mentioned is greatly appreciated!

Cheers!

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Welcome to the forum, and congrats in advance on your new JK!

To run 35x12.50 tires on your JK, you'll need at least a 2.5" lift with bumpstop extensions. I couldn't tell what backspacing those wheels have, but they'd need to be 4.5" or less (maybe 4.75" at most). I've heard good things about the OME lift kits. I have the TeraFlex 2.5" coil lift and 35x12.50 tires on wheels with 4.5" backspacing. No problems. I've heard nothing bad about the TeraFlex lift kits. Their 2.5" kits are complete with everything you absolutely need, although my handling was greatly improved after adding front-lower control arms and adjusting my caster to about +5.5 degrees. I don't know about where you're at, but around here there's always someone willing to help install a lift kit for a few slices of pizza and a couple of beers. A lot cheaper than 4WheelParts charges, plus you'll get to know your suspension components, which is a good thing.

Can't help on the fender flare questions.

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I bought my brand new JK in June 2010. If you are as new to Jeeping, as I am, I suggest that you read everything on this board for the next few months before doing any mods. You will get a better understanding of the choices you are about to make.

For me, just deciding on buying wheels and tires or just tires with wheel spacers is a monumental task. I like the stock 18" Sahara wheels but, can I trust the spacers? The 18" tires cost much more than 16's but, it seems that they price the 16" wheels and tires to end up being about the same price as 18" tires.
Then there will come a day when these new tires will need to be replaced. Will 18 " tires get cheaper? Will the abundance of 16" tire choices dwindle?

I am starting to think that modding a jeep is a never ending project but then again, that is what makes it fun.
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I am starting to think that modding a jeep is a never ending project but then again, that is what makes it fun.
Yes, the mods never end. And even if they do, the project never does. Once you start modding, the constant maintenance (visual inspections, lubing, retorquing, etc.) is a must.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:58 AM   #5
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Whats up guys? I posted this on the new user forum and it was recommended that I post it here as well...

Going to look at, and hopefully purchase, a 2 Door JK tomorrow.

Would like some advice on what kind of lift (how many "s, what brand, etc) to get to roll some 20s on 35s.
(20x8.5 Black XD Rockstar Wheels w/ Nitto Mud Grappler 35x12.5x20 Tires)

I was told by a friend that OME is a great brand, but it seems like the suspension lift kit is just shocks and springs.
(Old Man Emu; Suspension Lift Kit-RH1)

I called the 4WheelParts store about a mile away and they suggested the Pro Comp 2.5" lift for $504. He said installed and everything out the door would be $975.

For now I will just be driving it around town, to and from work (~20 mi/day).

Also interested in buying some painted black fenders. The JK I'm looking at has the grayish textured plastic fenders and I want them to look smooth like the Saharas. Am I able to put replacement Sahara fender flares on my X? I called a reputable shop that quoted me $150 per fender flare to paint them, but also said it would be nobby/texturized still. I'd rather just buy some MOPAR Sahara replacements, if they'll fit, for about the same price.
(MOPAR 5KC87TZZAG - Mopar® Left Front Drivers Side Flare for 07-11 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited Sahara - Quadratec)

The lady also quoted me $350 - $400 to paint the hard top as well, which I plan on doing.

Any input on anything mentioned is greatly appreciated!

Cheers!
2.5" lifts will clear 35's just fine. 3-4"of lift on a 2 door and you're going to want to consider new driveshafts as well, which will run you about $1k.

You're also going to take a huge performance hit if you go to 35's with stock X 3.21 or 3.73 gears. New gears with labor can run $1200-$2000 depending on the shop.

You're speedometer is going to be off after adding larger tires which will also cost money to recalibrate if you don't want odometer discrepancy.

MPG will be greatly affected. I'm averaging 12.5 mpg actual with my 35s and 4.88 gears.

The stock tailgate can't necessarily handle the weight of a 35, especially with a 20" wheel. If you plan on carrying a full size spare, you're going to want a tire carrier as well.

While 20" wheels look nice, your next set of tires is going to cost quite a bit more compared to a 16 or 17" wheel. Its all personal preference though.

If you can find someone who is willing to swap their 2 door sahara fenders, they will bolt right up to your X, no problem.

Just consider what you're getting into before you pull the trigger.

Good luck!
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:37 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the suggestions!

Good to know the stock sahara fenders will bolt right up.

Is there a photo gallery of jeeps with different lift/wheel combos?

I like the look of the 20's on 33's wheel to tire ratio.. thst msy be a wiser decision.

Also can you ellaborate a bit more on the gears? That is new to me. A link to another thread would work. Or I can do a search ::hits head:: Thanks so much
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Gears will help get your low end power back. Just throwing bigger tires on without regearing will feel like you're pulling a camper IMO. It might be okay for some, if you avoid hills. The cost of the parts is relatively cheap, but the labor is what gets you. You also need to do both your front and back differential if you ever plan on using 4wd.

33's should be okay with your stock gearing.

Tire & Gear Ratio Chart at Morris 4x4 Center

I'm running 4.88's with 35's and my rpms are right around 3k @70mph. Stock non-rubicon JKs have 3.21 gears or 3.73 gears if you got the tow package. A small number of non-rubicon 07's got the 4.10's. I would check your build sheet.

Hopefully I explained that okay!

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Old 02-03-2011, 02:31 PM   #8
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