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Old 01-30-2011, 10:40 PM   #1
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Automatic or Manual

So I'm trading in my 2008 Wrangler for a 2011 tomorrow. I found the exact one i want, but it's automatic. I have had manual since I have owned wranglers... So I'm torn.

I do drive a lot, so I'm hoping it will be a nice change.

Has anyone changed from manual to auto? How do the automatics drive?

Are they descent off road?

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I prefer an auto trans off road, and a manual trans on road. Since I bought the Jeep for off road, I went with an auto trans. The auto trans makes me a better driver off road.

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Once you go auto you will never go back. I think in a lot of ways a auto will be more capable then a manual off road. Oh and they usually last longer too as no clutch or throughout bearing which can be short lived parts.
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First off get used to slappin your left foot to the floor board and reaching for an invisible stick! Happens to me all the time when i switch vehicles! Hope ya have good luck with the auto.
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Once you go auto you will never go back. I think in a lot of ways a auto will be more capable then a manual off road. Oh and they usually last longer too as no clutch or throughout bearing which can be short lived parts.
A manual transmission is just as capable as an automatic, especially with the HSA and HDC features. The argument is old and no longer valid, IMO.

The clutch in my last manual vehicle went out exactly as many times as the tranny in our last auto. Guess which one was more expensive to replace, and by what multiplier.

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Haha, yeah like Jeff stated, this topic has been covered numerous times on this forum. I actually posted this very same question when I was getting my first Jeep about 6 months ago. I understand that you would like to get personal feedback and not some directed to others.
I absolutely love my manual and would never think of going back to an automatic, especially in a jeep(thats just me). I love the control you have over the jeep and choosing the shift points can come in handy pretty often. As for off-roading, many people on here will tell you go with an auto for that. The say for rock crawling you will have more controll and it will be easier. However, I say why not add the extra little challenge of driving a stick??? I just think overall it is more fun to drive, and it makes me love my jeep even more.
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Haha, yeah like Jeff stated, this topic has been covered numerous times on this forum. I actually posted this very same question when I was getting my first Jeep about 6 months ago. I understand that you would like to get personal feedback and not some directed to others.
I absolutely love my manual and would never think of going back to an automatic, especially in a jeep(thats just me). I love the control you have over the jeep and choosing the shift points can come in handy pretty often. As for off-roading, many people on here will tell you go with an auto for that. The say for rock crawling you will have more controll and it will be easier. However, I say why not add the extra little challenge of driving a stick??? I just think overall it is more fun to drive, and it makes me love my jeep even more.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:57 AM   #9
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It is just personal preference - automatic makes it easier if you are driving in traffic every day.

I am the opposite to the above. I love the auto and would never go back to manual. I have been driving an automatic for about 6 years. I went to test drive a manual and it seemed too much hard work.
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Here are a couple of other threads to keep you busy, if you're really interested in what everyone has to say on the matter:

1. Auto vs Manual

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22. http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/stic...uto-21981.html

I'm sure there's more if you keep going back.
Yes, it's preference. They both work. People are happy with both. Do whatever you want.

(Psst, but just between you and me, the answer is "manual." )
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I've had both. For me the auto is just easier b/c it's my daily driver. As for off road...depends on what you get into. Rocks/climbing/odd angles the Auto is WAY easier. Most manuals that rock climb get one of those hand throttle things anyway since they don't have 3 feet. For mud, bog, snow... it's much easier to rock back and forth in a manual to get unstuck.

For me...stick shift is for sports cars.. Jeep is JUST fine with Auto.
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I have had both and used to love a manual back in my younger days. But now it is automatic or I would rather not have one. Still love the manual but just not up to it anymore and automatics these days just have so much more to them then years ago. The thing about manuals too is if you get into trouble were you have to make split second decisions they have definite disadvantages to an auto. Then there is remote start.
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First off get used to slappin your left foot to the floor board and reaching for an invisible stick! Happens to me all the time when i switch vehicles! Hope ya have good luck with the auto.
I actually just did this a couple weeks ago...first time driving an auto in months. Got in, slammed my foot down on the floorboard But hey, at least I showed it who's boss
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I wanted a manual, but the wife wanted an Auto, (Guess who won). The auto is solid on, and off road. It does make heavy traffic a little easier to deal with. You may smack the brake a time or two, and reach for the shifter until you get used to it.
It is all a matter of preference, but I now prefer the automatic, a little less to think about in tight spots.
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I bought a 2008 Rubicon with auto. I kind if wish I would have gone with the manual because the motors are under powered.

Here is what I would use to determine my answer: do you live in a hilly area and/or will you be off-road monthly - manual. If you live in a relatively flat area and/you will occasionally be offroad -auto.
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If you dont live in a city or drive in one alot OR if you dont plan on doing heavy rock crawling the STICK is for you. If you plan on doing moderate trails with elevation changes the STICK is for you. Everything I have read leads to the Stick helping in anything except extreme crawling or of course city driving as it becomes a pain. I personally dont crawl rocks but do trail ride and find the Stick to be helpful when going down steep hills. I also know when I go to my fathers on Long Island I hate my Stick when I'm in traffic for and hour. Its all about what and where you doing what your doing.
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If you dont live in a city or drive in one alot OR if you dont plan on doing heavy rock crawling the STICK is for you. If you plan on doing moderate trails with elevation changes the STICK is for you. Everything I have read leads to the Stick helping in anything except extreme crawling or of course city driving as it becomes a pain. I personally dont crawl rocks but do trail ride and find the Stick to be helpful when going down steep hills. I also know when I go to my fathers on Long Island I hate my Stick when I'm in traffic for and hour. Its all about what and where you doing what your doing.
it's totally preference and I've seen sticks out perform autos on the rocks and vice versa.......it's all about what the driver is comfortable with
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I'm thinking paddle shifters like in a ferrari... just kidding haha, I prefer stick, i just like the feeling of downshifting and that instant impression of acceleration even in a jeep that tops out at 70 MPH, and if you stall on a huge incline just start her back up, after a little ball busting from your buddies you're off to the races again no big deal.
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My last manual was a 93 Geo Tracker, drove it approx 80,000 miles without any clutch issues; I kept it until 2001 when I traded it toward a 2001 Wrangler with automatic. Next vehicle was a Dodge truck with automatic.

When I bought my 2010 Wrangler in December I went with a manual. I'm not planning on off road; I chose the manual because I thought it would be more likely than the auto to actually obtain the advertised gas MPG rating. The auto and manual are rated for the same MPG, but I suspect the manual is more likely than not to actually deliver 1-2 MPG better than the auto. Big deal? Not really... maybe.... yes?

The manual was $850 cheaper up front and that was a big deal because I was stretching myself to get a new Wrangler and not have a payment.

From what I've read, the manual clutch is an extra expense when it needs replacement, but the actual transmission is cheaper to repair than an auto if / when that is ever necessary.

Although I chose initally the manual for economy, if I had it to do over and there was no initial price difference and the delivered MPG was really the same, I would still go with the manual. I didn't think I would really enjoy shifting gears again, but I do. The manual seems at home in the Wrangler and so do I.
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Manual transmission = testament of the DRIVER's capability!
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A manual transmission is just as capable as an automatic, especially with the HSA and HDC features. The argument is old and no longer valid, IMO.
Can't agree with that, the new features have made a bit of a difference but auto is the only way to go off road.

Used to work with a guy who raced serious 4wd in Baja Mexico a few years back, he said all the top racers used autos.

Problem is us guys like the tactile feel of clutches and gear sticks but give me an auto off road any time.
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OK, here's a quick recap of this thread so far. If you're old or lazy go with the automatic. If you're young and cool go with the manual.
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My last manual was a 93 Geo Tracker, drove it approx 80,000 miles without any clutch issues; I kept it until 2001 when I traded it toward a 2001 Wrangler with automatic. Next vehicle was a Dodge truck with automatic.

When I bought my 2010 Wrangler in December I went with a manual. I'm not planning on off road; I chose the manual because I thought it would be more likely than the auto to actually obtain the advertised gas MPG rating. The auto and manual are rated for the same MPG, but I suspect the manual is more likely than not to actually deliver 1-2 MPG better than the auto. Big deal? Not really... maybe.... yes?

The manual was $850 cheaper up front and that was a big deal because I was stretching myself to get a new Wrangler and not have a payment.

From what I've read, the manual clutch is an extra expense when it needs replacement, but the actual transmission is cheaper to repair than an auto if / when that is ever necessary.

Although I chose initally the manual for economy, if I had it to do over and there was no initial price difference and the delivered MPG was really the same, I would still go with the manual. I didn't think I would really enjoy shifting gears again, but I do. The manual seems at home in the Wrangler and so do I.
I'm curious, why would you buy a Wrangler if you're not planning on going offroad? This is just my opinion, but the main purpose of owning one is the ability to go offroad. Otherwise, one is a lot better off just going with any one of the numerous vehicles with much better on road manners, fuel mileage and amenities. No offense meant - I'm just trying to understand this.
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I have an auto so I can text message a lot easier on/off road. Drinking/Smoking much less stressful with an auto as well.
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I have an auto so I can text message a lot easier on/off road. Drinking/Smoking much less stressful with an auto as well.
My TJs were both sticks and I managed to navigate the northern Michigan logging trails with the shifter in one hand and a glass of scotch in the other.

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OK, here's a quick recap of this thread so far. If you're old or lazy go with the automatic. If you're young and cool go with the manual.
^^^Agreed.
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I'm curious, why would you buy a Wrangler if you're not planning on going offroad? This is just my opinion, but the main purpose of owning one is the ability to go offroad. Otherwise, one is a lot better off just going with any one of the numerous vehicles with much better on road manners, fuel mileage and amenities. No offense meant - I'm just trying to understand this.
Do any of those let you take the top and doors off?
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Either one will get from point A to point B. If pushing a petal a lot and shoving a lever around a lot make your day, get a stick. If ease of driving matters to you get an auto. I'm old enough that I grew up pushing petals and shoving sticks around on tractors and cars and trucks. Now I enjoy the ease of driving an auto tranny in everything, even my riding mower.
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Either one will get from point A to point B. If pushing a petal a lot and shoving a lever around a lot make your day, get a stick. If ease of driving matters to you get an auto. I'm old enough that I grew up pushing petals and shoving sticks around on tractors and cars and trucks. Now I enjoy the ease of driving an auto tranny in everything, even my riding mower.
I have a manual, but I hope it's a very long time before I'm "pushing petals."
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Either one will get from point A to point B. If pushing a petal a lot and shoving a lever around a lot make your day, get a stick. If ease of driving matters to you get an auto. I'm old enough that I grew up pushing petals and shoving sticks around on tractors and cars and trucks. Now I enjoy the ease of driving an auto tranny in everything, even my riding mower.
Well by that logic if a vehicle is only a mode of transportation from point A to B, why get a Jeep in the first place? Any vehicle will do, unless you're traversing severe off road terrain on a regular basis.

I think one of the main reasons to buy a Jeep is for the unique driving experience it offers. A manual transmission enhances that driving experience, while an auto waters it down. But to each his own.
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I have had two of each and really prefer the automatic. And, the other reason to buy a Jeep other than going off road is to tow behind a RV....they are the best vehicle to tow on the planet!

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