I am trying to make a decision before I order 2007 Unlimited Wrangler Rubicon. I need to know what is PRO and CON between automatic vs manual transmission.
Thank you for advising if you have answering this question.
I'm still not used to the hill assist feature. The first time it kicked in I thought my brake was on! I just enjoy the manual. I also had an awesome uncle who not only taught me basic mechanics, but also taught me to 'dry my nails while turning a corner, shifting and drinking a soda'. His words, not mine. I am not a soccer mom with a manicure, nothing wrong with being one, it's just not me.
My '99 TJ also has hill-assist. It's called the parking brake. With the right co-ordination between parking brake and clutch I can take off up a steep hill from a dead stop without rolling back one inch. My '75 CJ5 and '81 Scrambler also had this very useful feature
My '99 TJ also has hill-assist. It's called the parking brake. With the right co-ordination between parking brake and clutch I can take off up a steep hill from a dead stop without rolling back one inch. My '75 CJ5 and '81 Scrambler also had this very useful feature
Hell, my truck has that feature. It has enough torque that all I have to do is let the clutch out a little as I move my foot from the brake to the gas, and it won't roll an inch. Which is good, because the parking brake is a foot pedal on the S10....
There really hasn't been any discussion as to the reliability of the auto tranny though...
I like driving stick because it gives mw something to do while driving and its fun to be in complete control. The only times ive wanted an auto is when im running late so im eating breakfast on my way to school lol. But id go with a manual if i had the choice again
I will never own a stick for my Jeep. Imagine this...You are 300' into a 600' sandstone hill climb and you are on a 20-30 degree slope and you must stop. If you let go of the brake even a little you will be rolling backwards and if you do not let out the clutch as smooth as possible the Jeep's front end will come over on you. I know it can be done, but getting your foot from the brake to the gas that fast can be very difficult and in some peoples case impossible. Yes I love sticks for sports cars and around town, but never in my Jeep.
I will never own a stick for my Jeep. Imagine this...You are 300' into a 600' sandstone hill climb and you are on a 20-30 degree slope and you must stop. If you let go of the brake even a little you will be rolling backwards and if you do not let out the clutch as smooth as possible the Jeep's front end will come over on you. I know it can be done, but getting your foot from the brake to the gas that fast can be very difficult and in some peoples case impossible. Yes I love sticks for sports cars and around town, but never in my Jeep.
That's the only reason you bought an auto, for when you stop half way up your 600' climbs, this is a common thing for you? Serious question, not sarcasm.
Actually yes this a common thing for me. I do not live far from Moab and I make it down there to help their economy about 10 times a year in a good year. I live for those trips and my favorite trails are the sandstone hills. This of course is not the only reason I have an auto, but I could not do what I love to do safely in my mind without it, especially with my boys in the Jeep.
Manuals are prone to stalling. Constantly changing gears.
Autos tend to run away down hill. Excessive brake wear. Can take on water during river crossings and lose drive. Autos need fluid pressure to change gears. But autos are harder to stall
On trails-manual. I put my jeep in first right after I air down and usually never touch the clutch the rest of the day till I'm done wheeling. Granted, I don't do much rocks, but stumps and logs have a lot of the same characteristics in getting over. I start and stop with the ignition and in gear (low range) and never had a hot clutch or failure yet. If I go faster than 4-5 miles an hour, I miss stuff in the great outdoors.
On long rides-auto...cause my wife can drive...lol...
Actually yes this a common thing for me. I do not live far from Moab and I make it down there to help their economy about 10 times a year in a good year. I live for those trips and my favorite trails are the sandstone hills. This of course is not the only reason I have an auto, but I could not do what I love to do safely in my mind without it, especially with my boys in the Jeep.
Okay, yeah I can understand with you living so close to Moab, and it being safer, and easier. As someone has said 4lo is a pretty safe solution in that situation with either transmission.
Heh Heh, this post will go on as long as we have sticks/autos !
I've already said that I'll never have a stick in a jeep again and another reason is, changing the clutch, machining flywheel, replacing throwout brg, is all expensive, even if you doit yourself !
I don't know for a fact, but I assume that the new JK "no stall" feature is a computer controlled throwout brg % pressure, that lets the clutch SLIP-I think ths will cause premature wear on clutchs-
Maybe some JK owners with sticks, and over 40,000 miles (having used the "no stall" a lot) will chime in !
Just like the ESP sys causes premature wear on rear brake pads and
The major reason I'll never have another stick in my jeep is
----------------------IT'S MY JEEP--------------------------
So, I drove the 2013 auto and stick, 3.73 gears in both. That auto is the best auto I've ever driven. it shifted fast and precisely, under all conditions. The manual was fun, and I've always had manuals, and the manual is cheaper, all of which are reasons I wanted a manual... but I'm not so sure. With a 6-speed manual transmission, that's an awful lot of shifting. True, I can start off in 2nd pretty easily... the big thing is, I don't think I could ever shift the manual as quickly as the auto shifts. The 2013 has one hell of a motor, and when stomped the auto just takes off. The manual does too, but I don't think I could shift fast enough to win a drag against an auto. Auto also has more leg room because the clutch is actually much closer than the gas and brake, and that doesn't leave a lot of place to put my left foot. With the auto and the doors off, I can hang my left leg outside on the running boards for even more legroom.
I do really like driving a stick... and I like having a ready-made excuse: "no, you can't borrow it, you don't know how to drive a stick"... but at this point I'm really not sure which I would enjoy more.
So, I drove the 2013 auto and stick, 3.73 gears in both. That auto is the best auto I've ever driven. it shifted fast and precisely, under all conditions. The manual was fun, and I've always had manuals, and the manual is cheaper, all of which are reasons I wanted a manual... but I'm not so sure. With a 6-speed manual transmission, that's an awful lot of shifting. True, I can start off in 2nd pretty easily... the big thing is, I don't think I could ever shift the manual as quickly as the auto shifts. The 2013 has one hell of a motor, and when stomped the auto just takes off. The manual does too, but I don't think I could shift fast enough to win a drag against an auto. Auto also has more leg room because the clutch is actually much closer than the gas and brake, and that doesn't leave a lot of place to put my left foot. With the auto and the doors off, I can hang my left leg outside on the running boards for even more legroom.
I do really like driving a stick... and I like having a ready-made excuse: "no, you can't borrow it, you don't know how to drive a stick"... but at this point I'm really not sure which I would enjoy more.
I have a 2013 4 dr manual transmission and I absolutely love it. I haven't had any problems with acceleration speed. I can keep up with just about any automatic jeep/car. I would recommend getting it. Plus it's a jeep, it should be manual !! If you have any questions just let me know
I drove an auto for seven years before I got the jeep and I was SO ready to get back to a manual. I've owned it and the previous jeep now for 6 years and absolutely love the manual in all kinds of driving. Six speeds? Yah, sometimes....most of the time it is less than six, mostly a four speed. I skip gears all the time. I find myself going 1, 2, 4, 6 a lot and even more going 1, 3, 5. Around town in hilly areas I tend to stay in 5th so that she responds quickly to the accelerator.
My wife had an auto PT Cruiser after driving standard for years (she was converted when she met me) and now is driving the Black 2 door Rubi with standard and absolutely loves driving the jeep.
My wife had an auto PT Cruiser after driving standard for years (she was converted when she met me) and now is driving the Black 2 door Rubi with standard and absolutely loves driving the jeep.
My wife was driving a 1973 Chevy C10 with three-on-the-tree when we met*. And yes, she knew how to jiggle the linkage to free it up from when it would bind. It was always such a pain to change the nylon wear spacers to keep that from happening. Sometimes you could wiggle a thin tie-wrap in there and it would work. Sort of.
She grew up learning to drive an early CJ with three speed on the floor. It is still in her family, and maybe someday we will get it.
* I had just sold my "Hairy Chested Man Truck" a 1978 Dodge W150 Power Wagon with 360-4bbl and 4 speed manual. I was able to buy an extended cab 1981 Datsun pickup (manual, 2WD) and a 1981 Datsun 310GX (manual) with what I sold it for!
Well... All that reading and all I got out of it is basically a 50/50 split in preference. Wish there was more objective opinions. Just as undecided as before I read this and many other similar posts.
Fom the other thread just today!!!!!!!
And this has them all beat... Drive this one, city boy!
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