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Old 04-01-2012, 02:37 PM   #1
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Backup camera for 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited???

Need help looking for the right Backup Cam for my 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Want it to connect to my Navi system. Also need a good placement for the camera. Any one have ideas??? Thanx

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Need help looking for the right Backup Cam for my 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. Want it to connect to my Navi system. Also need a good placement for the camera. Any one have ideas??? Thanx
Did you have any luck with this? I've been looking for the same thing.

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I was going to drill a hole into my rear bumper, where It dips for the tire. But I was going to go the route of the camera/rear view mirror. They can be found for about 90. And there are some where the rear view mirror looks boring and stock.
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I'm not good with attaching threads, but I looked at a few threads about installing rear cams before picking my setup. I have a 2012 JKU and just had it installed last night - works well so far, though I really only got to test it when I picked it up in the dark last night. I'll try to post pictures later and all of the equipment information, but I had someone else do the install (I don't trust myself). The installer I used had better experiences with Nav TV (though you'll see a lot of write-ups about the Lockpick as well) so I went with the Nav TV All-Gig (NAV-TV Corporation: ALLGIG_XG-HS Video in Motion bypass for Dodge, Chrysler and Jeep vehicles) with the A/V harness (NAV-TV Corporation: AllGIG A/V & Camera Harness). The camera was an Alpine, though I don't remember the exact model but it had nightvision on it because I was concerned with lighting. I had it mounted with a couple screws right above the hitch and below the 5th wheel. I've seen installs through the 5th wheel but was concerned with the angle and missing a kid shorter than the camera height right up against the vehicle. The bumper location allows me a view of basically the ground at the 5th wheel tire location and then back pretty far, estimating 20 feet but I'll try to get a better sense later. The very top of the screen barely shows the bottom of the 5th tire. I've tried the nav functions in motion and works perfectly.
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Did you do the install on a manual or automatic transmission 2012? I've heard the Lockpick won't work with 2012 manuals and I'm wondering if the Nav TV does. Thanks.
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Who's better NavTV or CoastalTech?
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I have also heard that the Lockpicks aren't set up for manual 2012s yet. When I was doing research and called CoastalTech, they asked me whether I had a manual transmission so I'm assuming that bug hasn't been fixed yet. I'd call them to confirm though. I have an automatic so that wasn't an issue for me. I think the CoastalTech rep recommended the CHR550 unit for the automatic 2012s.

I can't give a fair review of Lockpick vs. NavTV because I haven't tried both. From what I heard, Lockpick is a box and NavTV seemed to be smaller equipment which was less to get in the way. The installer that put it in for me was able to hide everything so it looks completely factory (sorry, no pictures yet but I'll get them soon). It's dark now and I'd like to get some pictures of the camera and wiring. Both units seemed to do everything I wanted (back-up camera and nav in motion). I don't have any need for front camera or other video inputs, though I think both can do it. I can tell you that the NavTV MyGig unit required an update to work with the 2012 730n nav unit but the installer was able to get it updated online and then continue the installation. Thankfully he was able to call the NavTV rep on his cell phone (at 8 p.m. on a Saturday) and get the help he needed to finish the job.

In case anyone cares, the camera I got was an Alpine HCE-C115 (Amazon.com: Alpine HCE-C115 Rear View Camera: Camera & Photo).

Pictures soon...
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Did you do the install on a manual or automatic transmission 2012? I've heard the Lockpick won't work with 2012 manuals and I'm wondering if the Nav TV does. Thanks.
The backup camera works on the locpick with manual transmission. What doesn't work is the in motion overrides (video, nav, etc).
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If you are just looking for the camera, the commander back up camera part # 82211293 works. We have been adding them to a few of our in stock Wrangler Unlimiteds an mounting in the rear bumper. The spare is barely seen at the very top.
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Can I get one that can be used with rear view mirror as I don't have the nav stereo?
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You obviously will need to replace the rearview mirror with one that supports video and auto dimming to do that jaybird but yes you can do it. I have the same setup on mine with the camera being displayed on a nice large rearview mirror. It works great. I had mine installed at a local shop in the DC area. It cost $600 including parts and labor. They replace the rearview mirror with a much nicer auto dimming mirror and the little camera displays in the left side of the mirror when you are in reverse. There are no wires seen and the entire things looks factory. This is the mirror I have:

Amazon.com: GENTEX GENK352 Auto Dimming Mirror with 3.5" Rear Camera Display Monitor: Automotive

And this is the camera I have:

Rydeen Mini-cam -- Rydeen
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Any pictures after install?
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If you are just looking for the camera, the commander back up camera part # 82211293 works. We have been adding them to a few of our in stock Wrangler Unlimiteds an mounting in the rear bumper. The spare is barely seen at the very top.
Does it work without the Lockpic/NavTV or does it still require one of those?
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If you are just looking for the camera, the commander back up camera part # 82211293 works. We have been adding them to a few of our in stock Wrangler Unlimiteds an mounting in the rear bumper. The spare is barely seen at the very top.
When hooked up, does it automatically work when put in reverse? Or is there other mods that need to be done to get the 430 to work?
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Pat, do you have any pics of your installs? I'd love to see what you guys did.

Thanks!
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Does it work without the Lock pic/NavTV or does it still require one of those?
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When hooked up, does it automatically work when put in reverse? Or is there other mods that need to be done to get the 430 to work?
I am researching this now. There are quite a few people on other Chrysler forums with the same nab radios doing this mod.

You do NOT need the Lockpic/NavTV to add just the back up camera function-just the camera. It does not just work after being hooked up. It requires the dealer to reprogram the appropriate accessory function as being installed with the VIN to activate the radio to display the video in reverse. I do not know if it will work with a manual transmission at this time, the vehicles the add on is made for are all automatic only (Commander and Grand Cherokee) and the forums I have browsed so far, all the installations were on automatic vehicles (not Grand Cherokees or Commanders) with the appropriate radios.

These install instructions display what the dealer has to program.

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I am researching this now. There are quite a few people on other Chrysler forums with the same nab radios doing this mod.

You do NOT need the Lockpic/NavTV to add just the back up camera function-just the camera. It does not just work after being hooked up. It requires the dealer to reprogram the appropriate accessory function as being installed with the VIN to activate the radio to display the video in reverse. I do not know if it will work with a manual transmission at this time, the vehicles the add on is made for are all automatic only (Commander and Grand Cherokee) and the forums I have browsed so far, all the installations were on automatic vehicles (not Grand Cherokees or Commanders) with the appropriate radios.

These install instructions display what the dealer has to program.

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Thanks for the work on this - I am very willing to buy an integrated back-up camera. This is one of the best investments you can make on a vehicle - whether you avoid a fender bender or running over a child, just one incident is enough to make it worth it.
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I just got off the phone w/my dealer, they said Chrysler is coming out w/a plug & play kit for the Wrangler in a month or so. They did not want to install the Commander kit.
Pat, have you heard anything about such a back up cam kit for the Wrangler?
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I just got off the phone w/my dealer, they said Chrysler is coming out w/a plug & play kit for the Wrangler in a month or so. They did not want to install the Commander kit.
Pat, have you heard anything about such a back up cam kit for the Wrangler?
I suppose it's possible, but I doubt it.

Where would they mount the thing?

Obviously we find places to mount them, but we also aren't expecting it to look like it came from the factory that way. Normal buyers will.
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I haven't heard anything about a plug and play accessory. The tech that does it for us is going to do one friday and I'll try to get some pics.

He's pretty good at figuring this stuff out. He has a mygig from an 08 in his 05 with no lock pick etc.
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I put the lock pick in my manual sahara 12' JK - I bought the camera off of ebay for 99bucks - there are cheaper ones, but this matched the screen definition to get the best picture.

I had a place run the wires and they drilled a circular hole in the hitch cover to mount the camera. The camera is easily removed if I need to use the hitch. It turns on automatically when you put it into reverse.
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I'm wondering if a Caravan back up camera would work in a 2012 JKU ?
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I haven't heard anything about a plug and play accessory. The tech that does it for us is going to do one friday and I'll try to get some pics.

He's pretty good at figuring this stuff out. He has a mygig from an 08 in his 05 with no lock pick etc.
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Sorry guys and gals,

We have about 15 techs total and our service department sees 70-85 vehicles a day so the back up camera install has been put on the back burner until the tech has time. I absolutely will get pics once he starts it.

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