So it took me a while but I finally found the time to get my install done. Ordered a Banks Stinger system for my 2013 JKU from The Speed Shop in Pomona CA. (Great people and prices!...find them at www.speedshopstore.com) and had it within a week. Started planning on a dyno day to see what I'd be getting from each component and the system as a whole.
A coworker of mine has been doing some testing with his F-150 EcoBoost at a local shop here in town, and after talking to Randy, the owner of Ragin Racin, we set up a window for Saturday.
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Randy and Ragin Racin are late model GM and Corvette specialists...needless to say I felt like I was in the wrong place LoL!
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I don't know if it's a good or bad thing but come to find out I was the first Jeep anything Randy has ever run on the dyno. All strapped down and ready to go
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To start off we ran a baseline stock to see what it was putting to the wheels and immediately we ran into a problem. For dyno pulls you want to get as close to a 1:1 gear ratio as possible. For my 3.73 rear end that would be 3rd...which just happens to be 1:1. Problem was I have an auto and even in "manual" mode it wouldn't let me past 2nd. A quick google produced others that had the same issue, most of which couldn't even get out of 1st. Second gear in 3.73's is about a 1.41:1 so I decided to just go with it. Stock runs 1&2 done back to back produced 202.23hp/173.10tq and 197.16hp/170.35tq respectively.
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Factoring in Jeep automatic loss of roughly 30%, this was actually nuts on and we decided that 2nd gear pulls would be sufficient. So in went the Banks Ram Air intake...
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Install was simple and took about 10min. Right away I noticed a much deeper tone from the intake. As before, we did 2 pulls back to back and MAN! did this thing scream! Under wot much louder than I was expecting...which is a good thing lol. I didn't get pics in between each of the next runs but I'll refer to the final graph that contains all of them. Runs 3&4 with intake produced 216.14hp/182.12tq and 213.29hp/180.49tq respectively.
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I can say with these results I was more than pleased. 14hp and 9ft/lbs to the wheels on intake alone...and such a great sound! We pulled the intake back off and reinstalled the stock box. Up next was the Banks Monster exhaust...out with the old and in with the new!
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Install went smooth...I had pre cut the exhaust the night before so I wouldn't be cutting while strapped to the dyno. After popping the stock exhaust off the hangers, the new Monster went in without a hitch. I used the supplied exhaust clamps while intending to get the system welded up later on. 2 pulls later (runs 5&6) showed 211.53hp/183.47tq and 211.18hp/182.37tq. A gain of about 9hp and 10ish ft/lbs on exhaust alone. What was most surprising was how little it dropped on the second run compared to the stock and intake only runs.
Back on went the ram air intake for the final set of runs...intake and exhaust combined. Again, 2 pulls back to back (runs 7&8) showed 221.33hp/185.43tq and 218.72hp/183.35tq respectively. Final tally showed a net gain of 19.1hp and 12.3ft/lbs...not too shabby for some quick bolt-ons!
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All in all I was very happy with the results and would recommend the Stinger system to anyone. Big thanks to Randy at Ragjn Racin, Kevin for helping me wrench on the dyno, The Speed Shop and Banks for awesome products!
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Btw, I ended up going with the black tip!
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Now on to some bad-ish news/update. Shortly after the install I noticed the exhaust leaking horribly around the supplied exhaust clamps, to the point that there wasn't a whole lot of exhaust coming out of the tail pipe! Planning on getting the system welded anyways...it wasn't a huge deal to me but for someone who hopes to get by on clamps alone...good luck! Some higher quality clamps would do this package a world of good.
The other issue I had...which is my fault...was I wasn't 100% satisfied with the volume of the exhaust. I purchased it knowing that it's one of the quieter ones out there, but it's REALLY quiet. At wot you def know it's there, but I was looking for more sound at regular throttle input...so when I had the system welded up I did the unthinkable...I had the resonator removed (Gasp!) and I must say I'm very pleased with the outcome! The volume that I was looking for is there now and the tone is just right. A little raspy but still very throaty for a V6. And after taking it on the highway I can say that there is little to no drone in the cab at 70mph. My wife even said she barely notices it. Now obviously under acceleration it's there, but once you're at cruising speed you're good to go.
Once I have some good numbers on fuel mileage I'll give an update, and am planning on getting a few sound clips together when I get some time. Hope I didn't waste too much of everyone's time lol.
A coworker of mine has been doing some testing with his F-150 EcoBoost at a local shop here in town, and after talking to Randy, the owner of Ragin Racin, we set up a window for Saturday.
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Randy and Ragin Racin are late model GM and Corvette specialists...needless to say I felt like I was in the wrong place LoL!
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I don't know if it's a good or bad thing but come to find out I was the first Jeep anything Randy has ever run on the dyno. All strapped down and ready to go
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To start off we ran a baseline stock to see what it was putting to the wheels and immediately we ran into a problem. For dyno pulls you want to get as close to a 1:1 gear ratio as possible. For my 3.73 rear end that would be 3rd...which just happens to be 1:1. Problem was I have an auto and even in "manual" mode it wouldn't let me past 2nd. A quick google produced others that had the same issue, most of which couldn't even get out of 1st. Second gear in 3.73's is about a 1.41:1 so I decided to just go with it. Stock runs 1&2 done back to back produced 202.23hp/173.10tq and 197.16hp/170.35tq respectively.
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Factoring in Jeep automatic loss of roughly 30%, this was actually nuts on and we decided that 2nd gear pulls would be sufficient. So in went the Banks Ram Air intake...
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Install was simple and took about 10min. Right away I noticed a much deeper tone from the intake. As before, we did 2 pulls back to back and MAN! did this thing scream! Under wot much louder than I was expecting...which is a good thing lol. I didn't get pics in between each of the next runs but I'll refer to the final graph that contains all of them. Runs 3&4 with intake produced 216.14hp/182.12tq and 213.29hp/180.49tq respectively.
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I can say with these results I was more than pleased. 14hp and 9ft/lbs to the wheels on intake alone...and such a great sound! We pulled the intake back off and reinstalled the stock box. Up next was the Banks Monster exhaust...out with the old and in with the new!
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Install went smooth...I had pre cut the exhaust the night before so I wouldn't be cutting while strapped to the dyno. After popping the stock exhaust off the hangers, the new Monster went in without a hitch. I used the supplied exhaust clamps while intending to get the system welded up later on. 2 pulls later (runs 5&6) showed 211.53hp/183.47tq and 211.18hp/182.37tq. A gain of about 9hp and 10ish ft/lbs on exhaust alone. What was most surprising was how little it dropped on the second run compared to the stock and intake only runs.
Back on went the ram air intake for the final set of runs...intake and exhaust combined. Again, 2 pulls back to back (runs 7&8) showed 221.33hp/185.43tq and 218.72hp/183.35tq respectively. Final tally showed a net gain of 19.1hp and 12.3ft/lbs...not too shabby for some quick bolt-ons!
All in all I was very happy with the results and would recommend the Stinger system to anyone. Big thanks to Randy at Ragjn Racin, Kevin for helping me wrench on the dyno, The Speed Shop and Banks for awesome products!
Btw, I ended up going with the black tip!
Now on to some bad-ish news/update. Shortly after the install I noticed the exhaust leaking horribly around the supplied exhaust clamps, to the point that there wasn't a whole lot of exhaust coming out of the tail pipe! Planning on getting the system welded anyways...it wasn't a huge deal to me but for someone who hopes to get by on clamps alone...good luck! Some higher quality clamps would do this package a world of good.
The other issue I had...which is my fault...was I wasn't 100% satisfied with the volume of the exhaust. I purchased it knowing that it's one of the quieter ones out there, but it's REALLY quiet. At wot you def know it's there, but I was looking for more sound at regular throttle input...so when I had the system welded up I did the unthinkable...I had the resonator removed (Gasp!) and I must say I'm very pleased with the outcome! The volume that I was looking for is there now and the tone is just right. A little raspy but still very throaty for a V6. And after taking it on the highway I can say that there is little to no drone in the cab at 70mph. My wife even said she barely notices it. Now obviously under acceleration it's there, but once you're at cruising speed you're good to go.
Once I have some good numbers on fuel mileage I'll give an update, and am planning on getting a few sound clips together when I get some time. Hope I didn't waste too much of everyone's time lol.
