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Old 07-26-2012, 12:44 PM   #31
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what are you using for the glass? some kind of plexi?
For the hard barn door on the LJ I used laminated safety glass, although a production unit would probably use tempered glass.

The soft barn door reuses the factory soft rear window to keep costs as low as possible.

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I think a lot more people would be interested in the modular top rather than the barn door. I can only find minimal scenarios where a barn door would be beneficial over the current split situation, and LOTS of scenarios where it would be worse.....unless you can make a hybrid, where the glass portion opens with the door (like a barn door) but when needed, can open the normal split way (for example, when you want to transport some 2x4s.)

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I think a lot more people would be interested in the modular top rather than the barn door. I can only find minimal scenarios where a barn door would be beneficial over the current split situation, and LOTS of scenarios where it would be worse.....unless you can make a hybrid, where the glass portion opens with the door (like a barn door) but when needed, can open the normal split way (for example, when you want to transport some 2x4s.)
I agree but only as to the hard top. I can see why lots of people might be interested in the soft top barn door option.
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I REALLY like the modular hard top. I have no way to remove/store a full hard top by myself, but the modularity would be awesome. Future 2 door JK owner
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I posted twice in this thread without saying this, so I wanted to get it on the record: All of your work (safari cab, barn door) is really amazing- I think the styling and functionality are really fantastic, and I am extraordinarily impressed. I hope you can find a way to make some decent money from this stellar work.
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I agree but only as to the hard top. I can see why lots of people might be interested in the soft top barn door option.
Sorry, I was talking about the hardtop.
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I posted twice in this thread without saying this, so I wanted to get it on the record: All of your work (safari cab, barn door) is really amazing- I think the styling and functionality are really fantastic, and I am extraordinarily impressed. I hope you can find a way to make some decent money from this stellar work.
Agreed 100%. Time to get an LLC and get to work!
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The LJ hard/mod top is awesome!
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Amazing idea

Yes, yes...you need to produce the full safari top for JK (and JKU, I guess). What a cool concept. I was actually wondering why more companies don't make aftermarket hardtops with different characteristics than stock. This is an amazing product and I'd pay good money for it myself. Given that TJs have not been built since 2006 and Ljs were pretty rare, is it still even worth it for them to pursue the top for those models? There are a million JKs out there with newbie Jeep money. Like me. Want.
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I'd be interested in the barn door if it gets the wiper moved to the bottom which would improve visibility. The safari modular top is also interesting, if the prjce isn't too high. I'd like to see it keep the removable front pannel option like the freedom top.
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I really like the flexibility of the modular top but really like the look with the windows like that... reminds me of the benz suv or H1 a little. My wife will take a barn door with the soft top all day... she hates bending over to slide things into the back when the soft top is on!
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For later JK hardtops with the wider hatch, I'd probably do filler panels to narrow the wide opening in the hardtop to the earlier width.
While I really like the idea of the tailgate-connected rear window, this could be a deal-breaker for me. The potential loss of (already limited) rear visibility gives me pause.
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I like the barn door concept. My dog has little patience and wants into or out of the vehicle as soon as a door is opened.

Thanks for the innovative products!
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I posted twice in this thread without saying this, so I wanted to get it on the record: All of your work (safari cab, barn door) is really amazing- I think the styling and functionality are really fantastic, and I am extraordinarily impressed. I hope you can find a way to make some decent money from this stellar work.
Thank you very much.

I'm not in this for money, it's just a hobby. I enjoy the design challenges and building a first prototype. I've made my designs available to companies for production at very reasonable terms, if someone wants to bring something of mine to market the money isn't a major consideration for me. (But I did go to the bank this morning to cash a royalty check from one of my previous projects/products that's selling pretty well ).
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Yes, yes...you need to produce the full safari top for JK (and JKU, I guess). What a cool concept. I was actually wondering why more companies don't make aftermarket hardtops with different characteristics than stock. This is an amazing product and I'd pay good money for it myself. Given that TJs have not been built since 2006 and Ljs were pretty rare, is it still even worth it for them to pursue the top for those models? There are a million JKs out there with newbie Jeep money. Like me. Want.
The reason most aftermarket tops look like factory tops is that many of the aftermarket tops a started by modifying a factory top just a little bit and then making a mold off that. I design my stuff completely from the ground up, which may not be cost effective for most companies to do because of the design and development cost, but since I do this as a hobby in my home garage, those costs don't matter.

The guys I've talked to in the Jeep hardtop business believe that there's a good market for JK tops that are different (like this one).
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Agreed 100%. Time to get an LLC and get to work!
You won't see me with an LLC or doing this for a job. It's a hobby for me. I love designing these things and building the proof of concept, but once I've done that I want to move on to the next design challenge. If a company wants to turn what I've done into a commercial product I'm happy to work with them to do that.
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I REALLY like the modular hard top. I have no way to remove/store a full hard top by myself, but the modularity would be awesome. Future 2 door JK owner
I've removed/installed the Safari Cab on my LJ dozens of times singlehandedly. The roof panel is pretty large and a bit awkward, but it can be done by one person.
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While I really like the idea of the tailgate-connected rear window, this could be a deal-breaker for me. The potential loss of (already limited) rear visibility gives me pause.
With the LJ version, there is no loss of rear view mirror visibility. I'd expect the JK version to be the same.
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You won't see me with an LLC or doing this for a job. It's a hobby for me. I love designing these things and building the proof of concept, but once I've done that I want to move on to the next design challenge. If a company wants to turn what I've done into a commercial product I'm happy to work with them to do that.
Maybe PM Quadratec. Maybe they would be interested in slapping their name on something like this.
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I've removed/installed the Safari Cab on my LJ dozens of times singlehandedly. The roof panel is pretty large and a bit awkward, but it can be done by one person.
i meant the factory style single piece one would be the problem. something where i could remove sides/roof independently wouldn't be a problem.
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The "soft barn door" concept looks awesome. I hate having to work around the zippered rear window and the tailgate bar to load or unload anything while the soft top is on, and this would be absolutely perfect. The rear window being rigid adds extra appeal, though soft plastic with a frame could make it more stow-able should one want to remove it but keep it in the Jeep.

I'll be monitoring the threads to see if it's a production-likely item!
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not so interested in the barn door, but really love the vertical oval rear windows in the hardtop and roll up sides. I hope the JK version would have those.
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So whom do I make the check out to? Love both the barn door and the top.
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The "soft barn door" concept looks awesome. I hate having to work around the zippered rear window and the tailgate bar to load or unload anything while the soft top is on, and this would be absolutely perfect. The rear window being rigid adds extra appeal, though soft plastic with a frame could make it more stow-able should one want to remove it but keep it in the Jeep.

I'll be monitoring the threads to see if it's a production-likely item!
The soft barn door has a soft window in a rigid frame, not conceptually unlike the hard uppers that go with half doors. The hard barn door has a glass window.
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not so interested in the barn door, but really love the vertical oval rear windows in the hardtop and roll up sides. I hope the JK version would have those.
Yes, the small windows on each side of the back panel are part of the JK Safari Cab design.
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Maybe PM Quadratec. Maybe they would be interested in slapping their name on something like this.
I'd imagine they might be interested in selling it, but as far as I know they're not in the business of manufacturing stuff like this. I have no plans to be in the manufacturing business .
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First post on the site, and I just purchased my first Jeep ever about a week ago. I just wanted to compliment you on the prototypes - they look great!

I'd be interested in the soft barn door for the back of my JKU, if ever made. If the hard top with the rollup windows was available prior to me purchasing, I would have been interested in that too.
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First post on the site, and I just purchased my first Jeep ever about a week ago. I just wanted to compliment you on the prototypes - they look great!

I'd be interested in the soft barn door for the back of my JKU, if ever made. If the hard top with the rollup windows was available prior to me purchasing, I would have been interested in that too.
Looks really cool. Any idea what kind of price range this would end up costing?
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Looks really cool. Any idea what kind of price range this would end up costing?
Not sure what you're asking about. The hard barn door option? The soft barn door? The full JK Safari Cab with all of its options?
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Reminds me of the LR Defender.

How much extra weight do you think the barn door piece will be? People have had tailgate problems (spot welds breaking, tailgate sagging) with bigger spare tires, might need reinforced hinges.

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