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Old 03-30-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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Arrow Beach pass paranoia

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I am all set to get a beach pass for Cape Cod this summer for my new JK. Problem is, I have never driven a 4X4 on the beach, and am scared to death I will get stuck often with my open diffs. I will air down to 15psi. This beach has a mix of hard-pack and typical beach sand. Should be ok if I stay in 4-low?
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:26 AM   #2
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Beach driving is some of my favorite off roading. 4Hi is ideal, but, as I recently learned, autos tend to get hot when in 4hi on sand. Sand is a bit like mud, where you want momentum. My solution is aux tranny cooling which I hope will solve this (my next addition). You will most likely not get stuck. airing down is huge on sand, helps tremendously. I would worry less about getting stuck, and more about hot oil. Unless you have a standard transmission, which would make it a moot point.

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^Great advice! Here's another tip. When you stop, back up about 3 feet. Then when you move forward again you are less likely to dig in.
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Got it. Hoping I can make it through the trails to the beach without having to stop. But, traffic on the trails does happen. There is a list of things people need to bring before entering the area. Tow strap, 2x2, jack, must air down, shovel. Everyone is prepared, thank goodness.
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Go with a buddy, a shovel, and a 30 ft recovery strap. If you don't have a buddy still take a recovery strap and shovel but also consider other recovery tools like a hi-lift (should always take anyway), ARB Xjack, ARB Bushranger Xtrax, cash to pay someone to pull you out.
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Warning: This thread is about differentials.

I am all set to get a beach pass for Cape Cod this summer for my new JK. Problem is, I have never driven a 4X4 on the beach, and am scared to death I will get stuck often with my open diffs. I will air down to 15psi. This beach has a mix of hard-pack and typical beach sand. Should be ok if I stay in 4-low?
Assuming you are out at race point you should be fine in 4 Hi for the most part. It will give you no problems and some areas of it can even be done without 4wd. There are a couple steep inclines that may actually require 4 Lo depending on how the sand is at the time. In case you aren't aware they require you to have certain equipment before they will give you a pass. hxxp //www.nps.gov/caco/cape-cod-national-seashore-oversand-beach-driving.htm

The rangers there also frown on tires with extra aggressive tread and you may get an extra lecture about digging up the sand if you have those tires on your jeep.

Either way have a good time and enjoy. Maybe I'll see out there at some point

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Don't forget a way to air back up! I would recommend the MV50.
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I drive in sand every weekend. I usually stay in 4hi unless crawling over a super loose sand dune and then go into 4lo. I use a B&M supercooler to handle the heat in the tranny. Never had the "hotoil" light come back on since the supercooler was installed. AND it was a cheap fix = cooler $60 on amazon and about 90 minutes DIY job.
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Leaned in Saudi desert.....when stopping.. Just before coming to. Complete stop let it roll...thus not letting a build up little hill in front of tyres
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to the OP, i've been on the cape beaches many times, if you go at race point they require you to have a high lift jack.. period ... also use 4lo. it will save your tranny. air down is a must, i run 10 psi.also race point has a air station to air back up.

what daggo said, go back and forth several times to prevent your self from getting stuck when leaving.

have fun hope to see you out there.
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... if you go at race point they require you to have a high lift jack.. period ...
When did this change I have been out there many times and the factory jack has always been sufficient for a pass.

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When did this change I have been out there many times and the factory jack has always been sufficient for a pass.

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I was wondering the same, I haven't been myself but was looking into getting the pass and it specifically says you only need the factory jack and some wood to create a sturdy base.
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Don't forget a way to air back up! I would recommend the MV50.
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Q Industries MV50 - SuperFlow® 12 Volt High Volume Air Compressor by Q Industries - Quadratec

Smittybilt MV50 - Smittybilt SuperFlow Air Compressor - Quadratec

Are they the same thing, only branded differently? They look the same, but I'm not sure. Thanks!
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Exactly the same.
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Exactly the same.
Awesome, same retailer, same product, 2 different prices. Thanks for the assistance!
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Hey all. I know of the requirements, and a standard jack will suffice. I am planning on going to Crowe's Pasture in Dennis. Can you wheel out at Race Point for a daily fee, or do you need a sticker? I don't want to spend more on stickers than gas! Already will have to drop $200 for Dennis. I will only stick with one town, as I am in Chatham most weekends, Dennis is closer.
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The race point sticker is good for the whole national seashore area at the end of the cape. This is that map the show the corridor.



They do week passes for $50 and season passes for $150

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Whoaaa awesome. Def getting a week pass. Thanks.
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I go to Assateague in MD all the time. One of their requirements is a base for the jack. Without one your jack will just sink in the sand. The DNR police will spot check vehicles and I have seen them writing tickits. My wife has seen me watching others get inspected and knowing I am well prepared, she once said, "You wish they would stop you for an inspection, don't you?"
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just a queston for all you beach runners.....doesn't the salt-sand rust things up quicker? or do you guys just wash it down good when you get back. I run o ocean city and rehobith at least a few times a season and have thought about running the beach but have been hesitant because of rusting.

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First of all it's illegal to drive on the beach at OC and Rehobeth. Assateague is where you want to go. I just spray down the undercarriage when I wash it after my trips. Usually the upper part of the Jeep is worse with a film from the salt spray. I've been going weekly in the summer for two years and haven't noticed any issue.
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I go to Assateague in MD all the time. One of their requirements is a base for the jack. Without one your jack will just sink in the sand. The DNR police will spot check vehicles and I have seen them writing tickits. My wife has seen me watching others get inspected and knowing I am well prepared, she once said, "You wish they would stop you for an inspection, don't you?"
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First of all it's illegal to drive on the beach at OC and Rehobeth. Assateague is where you want to go. I just spray down the undercarriage when I wash it after my trips. Usually the upper part of the Jeep is worse with a film from the salt spray. I've been going weekly in the summer for two years and haven't noticed any issue.
Thanks daggo, i knew it wasn't legal at rehobeth and O.C., just thought that since i go outhere quite a bit, i might stop and go for a roll down the beach at assateague. i've gone out there but the thought about all that salt always bothered me plus i didn't have the required 4 x 4 equipment at the time, not to mentiion i didn't have a jeep. good to konw its no issue with only minor maintenance.

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