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Old 09-18-2012, 08:00 PM   #1
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The project turned out better than I imagined...
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:16 PM   #2
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Nice work i did the same

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Old 09-18-2012, 08:32 PM   #3
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The project turned out better than I imagined...
You seem to have painted without removing the hardware, how I'd that go?

Any white spots when you LCD the top in place?

How many cans did it take?
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #4
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Nice work i did the same
Nice work as well. How do you like it?

I was a little worried as my spray paint skills are not the best, but the product was very forgiving.


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You seem to have painted without removing the hardware, how I'd that go?

Any white spots when you LCD the top in place?

How many cans did it take?
1. I used the blue painters tape excessively on all the hardware. Including the nuts that the freedom panel bolts use. Truth be told I was nervous, but it turned out well. The blue tape easily pulled off. I did get nervous when the freedom panels did not fit back properly. I thought the paint may have messed up the fit tolerance by adding 0.003mm of bed lining material... LOL, I forgot to take the tape off the nuts.

2. Yes, there were white spots when I put the top on. Mostly at the flange that bolts to the body along the quarter panel. The second spot was along the lower edge of the side glass. When I saw these I took the top off and quickly resprayed the areas. There were no white marks or scratches caused by installing the top, rather, the white spots were caused by novice painting skills.

3. 4 cans in total provided 2 coats. I need to pick up one more can to have as a backup. I used Rustoleum Bedliner that I purchased at Home Depot. I also used some acetone on the area to be painted.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:06 PM   #5
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Dang that looks great. May have to try that.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:49 AM   #6
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It looks so much better black in my opinion .the rustoleum bedliner stuff is awesome ive sprayed my light covers also the stuff holds up very well. Id did all that work to it and know im trying to sell it. The bedliner paint gives you a nice grip when your takeing out the panels. Only thing that i didnt remove when painting was the wiper motor.
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did you do this just for cosmetic reasons or are there insulation benefits? like interior heat reduction? just wondering. i don't mind the white, but being in FL if i park mine under the sun, the inside of the top can be very hot to the touch. thanks.
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did you do this just for cosmetic reasons or are there insulation benefits? like interior heat reduction? just wondering. i don't mind the white, but being in FL if i park mine under the sun, the inside of the top can be very hot to the touch. thanks.
Any use of bedliner will provide more insulation - sound, temp, etc. Don't know if that was the OP's goal - I know I'm going to do mine eventually just cuz I don't like the white - but those "benefits" come with it regardless.

I'll have to research this project; I'm curious if there was any sanding/prep cuz that inside seems so slick. I wonder how well the bedliner will hold/maintain over time.
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did you do this just for cosmetic reasons or are there insulation benefits.
Initially, I did it for cosmetic reasons. However, the benefits I've noticed include the following:
- more grip when removing panels
- an increase in sound dampening (just took off soft top from summer use, so this may be only my inner ear dyno)

Haven't noticed any insulation benefits regarding temperature...

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I'm curious if there was any sanding/prep cuz that inside seems so slick. I wonder how well the bedliner will hold/maintain over time.
Did not sand the inner surface, just used acetone to clean any foreign material. I'm now hoping that the bed lining material is so sticky that no sanding was required. Time will tell, and it seems like that answer will have to wait for the end of fall.
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I'm slow on the draw I guess, which paint/bed liner did you use and how long to dry?
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Perfect timing I was planning on doing this next week ha, great thread!
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Ya did it a few months ago it I definitely an improvement
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Old 11-02-2012, 09:56 AM   #13
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Are you guys using the spray bombs?
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I'm slow on the draw I guess, which paint/bed liner did you use and how long to dry?
I used Rustoleum Bedliner that I purchased at Home Depot. 4 cans in total provided 2 coats. I also used some acetone to clean up any dirt/grime before on the area before sprayed.

Drying time was relatively quick. After an hour in the sun the material was tacky. I think total time for the entire project from paint to install was about 6 hours.


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If spray bomb = spray can then yes.
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Any update? Has it peeled any?
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I've been tempted to drop mine off at line-x
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:08 PM   #17
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I'm interested to know how it's holding up too...any update??
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I was going to do Plastidip, until I saw this thread....
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As someone who has pretty much every bedliner out there on my XJ. I can tell you from personal experience that that can stuff if absolute crap. I used it on the floors and just the heat from it sitting in the parking lot on a Sunday day would make the bedliner tack up (stick to your shoes and what have you). Secondly not sanding down the paint some is a huge mistake. With bed liner 95% of it is the prep if you don't sand and clean it good it won't stick.
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As someone who has pretty much every bedliner out there on my XJ. I can tell you from personal experience that that can stuff if absolute crap. I used it on the floors and just the heat from it sitting in the parking lot on a Sunday day would make the bedliner tack up (stick to your shoes and what have you). Secondly not sanding down the paint some is a huge mistake. With bed liner 95% of it is the prep if you don't sand and clean it good it won't stick.
I've heard that it gets quite tacky if left in the sun/hot area...which worries me about painting the top of my hardtop with it. I'm leaning more towards rattle can whereas I can touch it up easily and I'm proficient enough with a spray can to do a good job. Luckily, I'm short, so I don't have to look at the hardtop very much, but as mine stands, it has quite a few white/fiberglass apparent from the previous owner just throwing the Freedom tops in the back and having them roll around on one another. It's on my short list of todo's.

I'd rather spend $30 on rattle can paint than $100 on a bedliner kit only to be disappointed. And the Central Valley sun isn't too forgiving...

Any other updates?
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I was also planning to do this albeit with plasti dip, any reason why I shouldn't?
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What I did was prep the hell out of my floors. Mixed the glass beads (used for boat nonskid floors) with some heavy duty black paint. Laid down two coats... Not sticky ever in Miami heat. I can even lay the carpet on top with zero issues.
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Not liking the tacky talk.... It would suck to have it get tacky, and in Texas summer heat it would most certainly be tacky.
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I doubt it. Had it topless all day no carpet in Arizona and not even tacky. Maybe I got that rookie luck.
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I've heard that it gets quite tacky if left in the sun/hot area...which worries me about painting the top of my hardtop with it. I'm leaning more towards rattle can whereas I can touch it up easily and I'm proficient enough with a spray can to do a good job. Luckily, I'm short, so I don't have to look at the hardtop very much, but as mine stands, it has quite a few white/fiberglass apparent from the previous owner just throwing the Freedom tops in the back and having them roll around on one another. It's on my short list of todo's. I'd rather spend $30 on rattle can paint than $100 on a bedliner kit only to be disappointed. And the Central Valley sun isn't too forgiving... Any other updates?
Hey Mike they little quarts of bedliner you can get. I'm sure that would be plenty for the top. Or it could be an excuse to do the floors and the top? Lol
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Seems like it would make the inside awfully dark but some may like that.
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Hey Mike they little quarts of bedliner you can get. I'm sure that would be plenty for the top. Or it could be an excuse to do the floors and the top? Lol
Do you think a quart would be enough? I don't. I think the herculiner brand called for a gallon per 60sq feet (10ft x 6ft). But for two coats, I'd need at least a gallon...That get's pretty expensive.

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I'm actually looking mainly to do just the top where mine has scraped off. Doing the inside seems like a bit jump as I'm not 100% sure about the bedliner products yet...
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As someone who has pretty much every bedliner out there on my XJ. I can tell you from personal experience that that can stuff if absolute crap. I used it on the floors and just the heat from it sitting in the parking lot on a Sunday day would make the bedliner tack up (stick to your shoes and what have you). Secondly not sanding down the paint some is a huge mistake. With bed liner 95% of it is the prep if you don't sand and clean it good it won't stick.
Have you tried monstaliner?
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Do you think a quart would be enough? I don't. I think the herculiner brand called for a gallon per 60sq feet (10ft x 6ft). But for two coats, I'd need at least a gallon...That get's pretty expensive. I'm actually looking mainly to do just the top where mine has scraped off. Doing the inside seems like a bit jump as I'm not 100% sure about the bedliner products yet...
Honestly I don't know. Don't think you'd need more than a half gal to do it. But it's not like you will need more than two coats. It's not like people step on it/ stuff rubs up against it



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No, that stuff is the tits though I've seen it person. When I re-bedliner the floors in my YJ I'm going to use that stuff though.
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So far the rattle can Rustoleum bedliner is holding up well. I did mine a few weeks ago when I was sound deadening the entire Jeep. I've had the tops on and off a couple times and it hasn't scratched. But even if it were to scratch a black sharpie will do a pretty good job of touching up small scratches.




I placed strips of sound deadener tiles under the HotHeads. The black of the Rustoleum matches the HotHeads and factory stuff perfectly. The color of the the front panel on the left side of the second photo is the color it actually is. It smelled for a few days, maybe a week but now the smell is gone and I am left a much nicer looking interior. It kind of feels driving a chop top hot rod. It seems like the roof line is lower now with the black compared to the white. But again, it looks much nicer IMO.

I did too much sound deadening at the time to say if the hotheads and bedliner on the top makes a difference by itself, and the weather has been perfect in PA for the past couple weeks so I can't say yet if it makes a difference in how hot or cold it gets inside the Jeep.

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