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Old 07-17-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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Bedliner inside of 2011 Jeep Wrangler

I've had problems with the hardtop leaking on my Wrangler, pretty much since I bought the darn thing. It's never been anything major, just annoying. Recently, I've started thinking about possibly having bedliner sprayed on the interior, to completely eliminate the need for carpet. Has anyone done this and what are your thoughts? I was thinking about going with Linex. Of course I understand this won't solve my leak issue, but it would eliminate the musty, wet smell of the carpet!

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I have no experience with bed lining , but my wife's 2010 hardtop as leaked one time since we bought it new and I just took the panels off and reseated them. One of the rubber seals was seat wrong and it has not leaked since. The drip was right above the radio

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I've had a leak there once or twice, but mostly on the back portion of the panels. The seal is probably squished somewhere, I just need to replace it. How hard was it to replace? Did you buy the seal kit from Quadratec?
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I bed-lined my '07 a while back. I go topless as much as possible and when I have the top on, it's just the soft one so getting the floor wet in heavy rains is very likely.
I used the roll-on stuff called Monstaliner, I think it came out well.

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I've had a leak there once or twice, but mostly on the back portion of the panels. The seal is probably squished somewhere, I just need to replace it. How hard was it to replace? Did you buy the seal kit from Quadratec?
I didn't replace the seal I just took the panels off than put them back on. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones so far c.
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I bed-lined my '07 a while back. I go topless as much as possible and when I have the top on, it's just the soft one so getting the floor wet in heavy rains is very likely.
I used the roll-on stuff called Monstaliner, I think it came out well.

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Now, do you keep your drain plugs out all the time or what? Has the rain ever messed up your radio or speakers? What kind of seat covers do you have?
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:26 PM   #7
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I did the raptor spray on with my TJ. Fraction of the cost line x will charge you, but a lot of work for prepping and everything. Same thing with the roll on kits. Mine was an older jeep anyway so i wasn't too worried about messing it up.

Get a lot of freak rainstorms on the coast, got caught with the windows down or top off a few times. Wet carpet sucks, and so does surface rust caused by all that moisture. I love the bedlined interior. Take it to the beach, hose off the sand, squeegee excess water to the drainholes, all clean again.

But if you can fix the leak with a seal or something, far less trouble and expense than lining it.

I will say this though. If you use the raptor, don't stop at 2 or 3 cans because it looks like you coated it good. Just use all 4. I had a few thin spots that i couldn't really see when the liner was still wet.
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Now, do you keep your drain plugs out all the time or what? Has the rain ever messed up your radio or speakers? What kind of seat covers do you have?
  1. Drain plugs = Only pulled out when necessary
  2. Radio/speakers = I have a Tuffy security cover on the radio and no problems w/speakers
  3. Seat covers = I just installed Trek Armor, very tough and water resistant (Smittybuilt over cheap seat covers in the pic)
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Anyone have a soft top on their 2011 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door that they remove? I have a hard top now, but I'm looking to get a soft top. I just spoke with someone at Quadratec and they said when you remove the soft top, to put the hard top back on, you basically have to break it completely back down to pieces again. Is there no way to take it off in one piece, or as few pieces as possible? I'm looking to get the Bestop Supertop NX, in case that helps.
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I think for the most part you have to take apart. I could be wrong but I do not know how it would be stored if you left it together let alone taking off in one piece
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I did raptor liner too. I love it. I now don't have too worry if it might rain. If its just a sprinkle I'll roll out with no windows in. It's super easy to clean. There are no worries about dust, water, pet hair, sand, slightly dirty cargo. It's my favorite mod. It took a good amount of time but only cost me $200 for all the supplies needed. I did a write up. http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-show-tell...hreads-238739/

If you have the $ then line-x is great. If you prep your jeep you can often get the price down. You would want the "xtra" uv coating.

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Anyone have a soft top on their 2011 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door that they remove? I have a hard top now, but I'm looking to get a soft top. I just spoke with someone at Quadratec and they said when you remove the soft top, to put the hard top back on, you basically have to break it completely back down to pieces again. Is there no way to take it off in one piece, or as few pieces as possible? I'm looking to get the Bestop Supertop NX, in case that helps.
I have that soft-top. You undo 4 quick release knuckles and it just lifts off. Of course you also need to take off the door surrounds but that's easy with 2 hand screws on each side. The thing is a major bitch to put together the first time. The directions are not the greatest. It's pretty water resistant, but will have small leaks occasionally.
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Beastmaster & Rooster have you had any rust issues with hardware on the inside? I'm looking to monstaline soon to protect the tub, but I'm already getting some rust on the interior hardware (cargo rings, gate latch mechanism, etc). You guys have any solutions for protecting that?
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Beastmaster & Rooster have you had any rust issues with hardware on the inside? I'm looking to monstaline soon to protect the tub, but I'm already getting some rust on the interior hardware (cargo rings, gate latch mechanism, etc). You guys have any solutions for protecting that?
The only issue I had was with covering the rear seat loops for my 2dr. It chipped there when I tried to force the seat in wrong. With rust I have had no issues. My jeeps only a year old though.

I would sand down the trouble spots to shiny metal, self-etch primer, and spray paint what you can. That is the best solution. If you cannot get in to sand an area then I would hit it with Rustoleum "Rust Reformer "spray paint. It's my understanding that it actually just seriously slows down rust vs totally prevents it, but i could be wrong.

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i have monstaliner in a 2008, did it myself.
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Beastmaster & Rooster have you had any rust issues with hardware on the inside? I'm looking to monstaline soon to protect the tub, but I'm already getting some rust on the interior hardware (cargo rings, gate latch mechanism, etc). You guys have any solutions for protecting that?
Even though my rig is 6 years old, I live in Arizona so rust is not as big a problem as other places. For places I didn't bed line but had slight rust, I did like Rooster76 and sanded, primed and painted the pieces. I used the same paint and primer as Rooster too.
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I had Line X on my TJ and will be adding to my JKU soon. I have already pulled my carpet in the JKU and just run floor liners so not much need for Line X except to complete the look. It was the best mod I ever did for my TJ though. It can be considered expensive, but the tear down and putting everything back together is worth paying someone the money. I would rather use my time doing something else that is far better quality than the DIY stuff out there.
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Thanks guys I appreciate the insight.

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Dallas, how much did it run you to get the LineX if you don't mind my asking? I'm planning to do the monstaliner myself to save some cash (still reeling from the rims and tires purchase), but would love the look of a professional job. I've just heard it can be really pricey.
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Thanks guys I appreciate the insight.

Rooster... saving me money... You're the man! Glad I asked before I bought.

Dallas, how much did it run you to get the LineX if you don't mind my asking? I'm planning to do the monstaliner myself to save some cash (still reeling from the rims and tires purchase), but would love the look of a professional job. I've just heard it can be really pricey.
$750 with them doing the tear down.
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$750 with them doing the tear down.
That is a little steep, but I usually try to break things down in terms of my hourly rate at work to determine if paying someone to do a job is worth my time. Considering how much prep and finishing work is required for lining, 750 might not be too bad.

Do you have any pics of the completed product?
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That is a little steep, but I usually try to break things down in terms of my hourly rate at work to determine if paying someone to do a job is worth my time. Considering how much prep and finishing work is required for lining, 750 might not be too bad.

Do you have any pics of the completed product?
Of course if you do it yourself, you'll probably care more about the job than the pros will, and they've also done it hundreds of times, so they're going to do it faster. I spent about 18 hours just dealing with the toothpaste crap on the floorboards. Tearing it down is easy on a 2 door, the hardest part is the bolts on the front seats which were torqued down by HE MAN HIMSELF.

You could use a nylon cup brush in a drill to do the scuffing instead of the scuffy pad that monstaliner provides, but the scuffy pad is definitely better than sandpaper. Monstaliner took me about 2 hours just to lay a coat down, per coat. Have to use a brush in the tight areas and have to kind of put a little effort into getting a texture with the brush. Guess how many tight areas are on the jeep? The whole darn thing is a tight area. The actual rolling of the monstaliner is super fast though.


Since monstaliner is $150, plus probably another $50 in random stuff i bought to do the job (YOu'll need masking tape, plastic sheeting, MEK, an extra brush, roller trays, i had to get extra scuffy pads because i lost the one that came in the kit somewhere, i had to buy 10 pounds of dry ice and a scraper and use a hammer on the toothpaste...................) i maybe spent 30 hours on the whole project. I think i'm about even with $750. I might be at more like $600.

I would definitely spray the monstaliner if you have the ability to. It would go on SO FAST compared to rolling. But no one will ever guess you rolled it on. I could tell my friends it's rhino liner/line-x/whatever and i paid a pro to do it and they'd believe me. Id rather they know how much blood and sweat i put into the project though.

Want pics of my completed product? http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/bed...ml#post3927751

By the way, the worst part of having bedliner is it always looks dirty. The carpet hides the dirt. LOL.
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I literally LOLd on the he-man statement. I have pulled the front seats out before and had the same thought. I actually went out and bought an impact wrench just to get the damn things off.

I'm definitely still torn on which way to go. I prefer to do things myself because I take pride in the job afterward. However I've got two kids and the prospect of spending a whole weekend working on it is tough.

Yours came out really good I'm thinking of going with the grey to match my silver if I do it myself.

Thanks for the opposing views. Gives me lots to think about.
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This is my guess how much time it will take.

3hrs to take the carpet and plastic trim out. The plastic push pins are a pain. They make special tools for those, but I used 2 screwdrivers. The front seats are in there stupid tight. You'll want at least a 18" ratchet. An impact drill would be ideal.

Add another hour if you want to remove the center console. I just hoisted it up an inch and sprayed under. To remove it you need to take the shifter knobs off.

3hrs if your going to remove the heat sound goop. I did heat gun and putty knife method.

6-8hrs to sand the clear coat off and wipe down with acetone/mek. I could see a drill attachment speeding up the process a couple hours.

3 hrs to mask and tie wires out of the way. I went a bit overboard.

3hrs to spray. 1hr spray, 1hr wait, 1hr 2nd coat

1 day to let dry before re-installing everything. Raptor says 3 days before light use and a week for it to be totally cured. It will be dry to the touch in an hour, but will likely scratch if you install you seats right away. Line-x on the other hand drys totally in like 15 minutes.

I'd throw in there a couple hours for getting stuff at the hardware store.

So it would be around 20 hours. It would be very tight to get it done in a weekend. 2 weekends would be more realistic.
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Do all JK's have that glue on the rear tub area? Well its not really a tub but you get it.. I was going to bed line but when I checked out the wheel wells with the weird cut outs and the glue on the back I am sorta thinking its not really worth it. I bed lined my YJ and thought about doing it to my TJ so I have the stuff sitting around at home..
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When I bed lined mine, I removed the goop on the floor but didn't want to touch the stuff on the wheel well seams.
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Is the Monstaliner as smooth as it looks? I was thinking about lining my '11 Sport, and I don't want too rough of a texture.

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I bed-lined my '07 a while back. I go topless as much as possible and when I have the top on, it's just the soft one so getting the floor wet in heavy rains is very likely.
I used the roll-on stuff called Monstaliner, I think it came out well.

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The stuff on the wheel well seems looks alright if you leave it. Just trim any spots where its shitty looking.

Monstaliner has nothing in it whatsoever to create texture. The texture comes from the special rollers. But you have to do a lot of brushing on the edges and you have to use like a stipling technique cor textjre there.

Or you can spray it with an undercosting gun. Thatll texture it too.

You can walk on monstaliner with bare feet after its been in the hot sun all day in my experience. Dont touch the center console though. Youll burn yourself lmao
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Is the Monstaliner as smooth as it looks? I was thinking about lining my '11 Sport, and I don't want too rough of a texture.
As medtioned, the Monstaliner is quite smooth, that's exactly why I went with it. I tried a small area with the spray of stuff (krylon I think) and it was very rough. It was good and tough but you couldn't wipe it with a cloth because it would leave fibers.

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