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Old 09-06-2012, 05:30 AM   #1
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We all read about reinforcing the front axle with sleeves/gussets etc. But don't see no mention of the rear.

I have a wobble In my driver side tire. Switching tires- the wobble stayed on the driver side.
Rotor seems fine. the shh-shh-shh-shh can be heard and seen with the tire on/off
Def felt while driving at all speeds and sometime squeaks.

Searching- I have come across a good amount of threads--mostly on other forums--concerning bent axle flanges. A weak point of our JK.
More common with bigger tires and wheeling, I've seen mention of stock too

Is this something that can be prevented?
I am considering Chromo axle shafts Anybody have any recommendations for brand. Contacts?

Go figure.. First good romp off road then this :Rolleyes:

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I've had a chromoly axle (just front) on my list of mods for awhile, but haven't done serious research into it yet.

I DO know that most of the major gear mfrs (Alloy USA, Superior) make some version of hardened axle for the JK. Synergy has chromoly versions, as well.

Here's a link page from Polyperformance that lists a lot of aftermarket axle makers: Poly Performance JEEP/TRUCK & BUGGY*::*Axles, CV & Accessories - 4X4 Off-Road Parts, JK Synergy Suspension Systems, Fox Racing Shox, Beard, CNC Brakes, Johnny Joints®, Currie Enterprises, Edelbrock, Pit Bull Tires, Ramsey Winch, ARB, Walker Evans, Wi

Then there are specialty companies like West Coast Differentials...Jeep JK Wrangler Chromoly Performance Axle Shafts | West Coast Differentials

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Part of the fun

I just seen mention of Dave @ northridge selling pre assembled shafts.

There apparently is OEM parts that are retained and have to be pressed in.
Looks like he obtains these parts.
I sent him a email.

Do a search on "bent axle flange" and a ton of sh*t comes up.

Add rears to your list :P
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Part of the fun

I just seen mention of Dave @ northridge selling pre assembled shafts.

There apparently is OEM parts that are retained and have to be pressed in.
Looks like he obtains these parts.
That sounds handy. Gotta love Northridge...


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Do a search on "bent axle flange" and a ton of sh*t comes up.

Add rears to your list :P
Hmm. Have to look into it.

Is there a way to reinforce the flange without buying a new axle? Kinda like the C-gussets up front...
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I don't think so being the outer flange.
Chromo axles is about it.
Not a huge expense like if you were to be the front housing.
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superiors and 10 factorys seem to be the popular rear axle shafts. 10 factory is the only brand that warrenties the bent flange. if you drive a non rubi, finding replacement shafts isn't too bad; if you find a rubi, good luck. most brands seem to be on back order. the upside is for whatever reason there are more people selling rubi take off shafts than non rubis, so you can always go cheap and keep breaking stock shafts.

Personally, I just ordered some 10 factories from rockridge. they dont come pre-assembled, but I got them for 100$ cheaper than what NR4x4 is asking for em, so I'll count it as a win. keep in mind when you order shafts, things you should ask for is the retaining plate, and the tone rings, and if they already come with the bearings and tone rings pressed on. most axles dont seem to include the tone rings (nor the retaining plate) so it'll be on you to source them.
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Dang dude. Did you really do anything nuts to bend it? Only way I could even think you'd bend it is some killer flexing or laying it on its side...

BUT now that's it's broke.... I'd just pony up and get a pro-rock
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Dang dude. Did you really do anything nuts to bend it? Only way I could even think you'd bend it is some killer flexing or laying it on its side...

BUT now that's it's broke.... I'd just pony up and get a pro-rock
not the axle, axle shaft. my wife had a similar freak out when I told her I bent the rear axle shafts lol. I guess I wont get my second prorock for awhile

pretty sure I bent mine when I had stock tires, just swapping to 37s made it worse
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superiors and 10 factorys seem to be the popular rear axle shafts. 10 factory is the only brand that warrenties the bent flange. if you drive a non rubi, finding replacement shafts isn't too bad; if you find a rubi, good luck. most brands seem to be on back order. the upside is for whatever reason there are more people selling rubi take off shafts than non rubis, so you can always go cheap and keep breaking stock shafts.

Personally, I just ordered some 10 factories from rockridge. they dont come pre-assembled, but I got them for 100$ cheaper than what NR4x4 is asking for em, so I'll count it as a win. keep in mind when you order shafts, things you should ask for is the retaining plate, and the tone rings, and if they already come with the bearings and tone rings pressed on. most axles dont seem to include the tone rings (nor the retaining plate) so it'll be on you to source them.
So it's harder to find rubi axles ? Used or new?
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So it's harder to find rubi axles ? Used or new?
new. pretty sure both 10factory and superior are on backorder. not sure about g2, alloy, or synergy.

however used shafts are easier to find. just check out jkf or jko
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not the axle, axle shaft. my wife had a similar freak out when I told her I bent the rear axle shafts lol. I guess I wont get my second prorock for awhile

pretty sure I bent mine when I had stock tires, just swapping to 37s made it worse

I thought when you upgraded to the completed assembly the internals were stronger as well? I knew the housing came "empty"
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I thought when you upgraded to the completed assembly the internals were stronger as well? I knew the housing came "empty"
I replaced my front, not my rear. but no, the internals are not really stronger. however, if you did get say, a pr44 for the rear (dont know why you would, but you might) you could get it with stronger shafts, or even switch from the 30/32 spline shafts you get stock to get a 35spline shaft. if you switch to a pr60, the internals will be stronger, only because they will be bigger and beefier. they still wont be stronger than OEM d60 parts, unless you order stronger parts
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Something with our axles being floating correct ?
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new. pretty sure both 10factory and superior are on backorder. not sure about g2, alloy, or synergy.

however used shafts are easier to find. just check out jkf or jko
Sh*t not signed up over there. I tried JKF with no response ..... Twice,

Anybody over on any of the other forums can find me a driver side rear axle ?
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Something with our axles being floating correct ?
? you mean why they bend? because the load bearing is put on the shaft and flange, because its not floating. folks who upgrade to d60s will usually spend the extra money to upgrade to full float to prevent more damage to the axle shafts.

basic breakdown is with stock axles, the weight of the vehicle is supported by the axle shafts on the bearings located at the flange. when you swap to FF, that load is taken off the flange and placed onto the housing. that way the only strain put on the shafts is from the torque at the drivetrain/wheel
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Kjeeper, you and pluke's threads always scare me.
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? you mean why they bend? because the load bearing is put on the shaft and flange, because its not floating. folks who upgrade to d60s will usually spend the extra money to upgrade to full float to prevent more damage to the axle shafts.

basic breakdown is with stock axles, the weight of the vehicle is supported by the axle shafts on the bearings located at the flange. when you swap to FF, that load is taken off the flange and placed onto the housing. that way the only strain put on the shafts is from the torque at the drivetrain/wheel
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I replaced my front, not my rear. but no, the internals are not really stronger. however, if you did get say, a pr44 for the rear (dont know why you would, but you might) you could get it with stronger shafts, or even switch from the 30/32 spline shafts you get stock to get a 35spline shaft. if you switch to a pr60, the internals will be stronger, only because they will be bigger and beefier. they still wont be stronger than OEM d60 parts, unless you order stronger parts
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Sh*t not signed up over there. I tried JKF with no response ..... Twice,

Anybody over on any of the other forums can find me a driver side rear axle ?
not to give any bias, but the only reason I'm on JKF is for the vendors and the for sale section. if you ever have questions where you need a real answer, JKO and JKFreaks are the sites where the tech people go
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not to give any bias, but the only reason I'm on JKF is for the vendors and the for sale section. if you ever have questions where you need a real answer, JKO and JKFreaks are the sites where the tech people go
That is what I'm looking for. I love this forum but it does lack good tech.

Thanks for your help.

Now I need to figure out on what to do.

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That is what I'm looking for. I love this forum but it does lack good tech.

Thanks for your help.

Now I need to figure out on what to do.

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The squeak lol

Post #2 on the 2nd link reminds me of someone

That's where the search all started
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I have a video but forgot my YouTube account password,
Maybe Sueby can post it
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They make me rethink my setup and second guess myself. Ah well, I'll learn along the way I guess.
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Awesome..... Thanks Sue.

Not the best video lol

Dave @ Northridge does pre pressed axles for $450

http://www.northridge4x4.com/shop/al...a-44-kit-12156
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They make me rethink my setup and second guess myself. Ah well, I'll learn along the way I guess.
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What does the spline count mean ??
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