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Old 08-27-2014, 09:45 AM   #1
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hello everyone !

asking for some advice from the guys that tried them.

I own a Sahara for short time (first jeep / suv ever) that I use on roads and highways 90% of the time.

it comes stock with 255/70/R18 tires that I find very instable at higher speeds, no steering precision at all (they also look like C...P)

I was thinking to change the tires and maybe even the rims.

18"x9" rim with :
1.BFG 285x65xR18 (great looking tire that I found pretty cheap - under 200$) - 32.6"overall wheel.
2.Handkook Ventus ST RH06 - 285/50/R18 (good reviews on the tire but no clue the jeep would look, I bet that not so good ... 31.4" overall wheel)

Going to wider rims 20"x9"
1. 305x50xR10 tire (wide looks nice, overall 32" wheel but the tallness will hurt I know.. no clue how it looks)

thinking of fuel economy also (as much as you can in a Jeep ... ))

thanks for any advice

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Old 08-27-2014, 12:29 PM   #2
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I do like the Rubicon wheels 255/75/17 (32 inch) - they are good on the street and decent offroad. A set of takeoffs would be not too expensive. Congrats on the new Jeep!

Lots of folks also seem to like Duratracs on the street.

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Old 08-27-2014, 12:46 PM   #3
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Thank you !

Just checked the Duratracs, seems to be like BFG (heavy but nice looking tire). Has a lower speed rating than BFG
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:58 PM   #4
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It's a Jeep forget the low profile tires & the speed ratings mean nothing for a Jeep. It's not a street rod.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:10 PM   #5
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Very true but some need to use it for highways to commute
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:16 PM   #6
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A lot of the instability you feel has to do with the suspension as much as the tires so you should go into this knowing that your Jeep will never handle fantastically at highway speeds. Sure, low profile tires will make it handle a little better on the highway but not by a whole lot. And they will end up making the ride more harsh and unpleasant.

Beyond that, low profile tires don't do well off road. They can't conform to the terrain as well so they don't have the same traction that a similar size tire with a taller profile. The more the sidewall can flex, the better the traction you get off road (to a point).

If you really want on road stability, go ahead and get the lower profile tires. It's your Jeep and you should do what you want with it to enjoy it the most. Just understand that no matter what you do, you're having to compromise between daily driveability and off road performance in a vehicle that really isn't designed for on road performance.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:19 PM   #7
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If you are changing wheels too, consider going to 17's as the tire selection gets way better.

285/70-17 is 32.8 (same as a typical 33) and there are lots of tires to choose from. There are P series tires as well as LT series tires in that size range. From Bridgestones to BFG's to Michelin's. Plus the 17" combination will be less $$ than 18's.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:22 PM   #8
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Ohhh great feedback, so the suspension is part of the "problem", ty at least now i know that a lower profile will not fix* it,
Guess i'll go with the BFG then

How is the fuel economy affected by tires on a jeep ?
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I'm one of those that prefers the 18" OEM Sahara rims.

I ran the stock Duelers to 25k, switched to the largest that would fit without rims/lift/spacers/mega$ and settled on Duratrac-clone Kelly RTS Safari 275/65R18. Excellent for the next 50k, still have most of the rubber on them.

Got amazing deal with 5 wheel set of sipped Toyo A/T Open Country, same size as above, that are working very well too in these summer roads. So far no issues in 3k road miles.

Beware too wide/tall as I had to have bump-stop adjusted to avoid raggedy rub from the Kellys.

I don't need lift/spacers/wheels/ as I like what I got now.

Good luck on your search.
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I'm one of those that prefers the 18" OEM Sahara rims.

I ran the stock Duelers to 25k, switched to the largest that would fit without rims/lift/spacers/mega$ and settled on Duratrac-clone Kelly RTS Safari 275/65R18. Excellent for the next 50k, still have most of the rubber on them.

Got amazing deal with 5 wheel set of sipped Toyo A/T Open Country, same size as above, that are working very well too in these summer roads. So far no issues in 3k road miles.

Beware too wide/tall as I had to have bump-stop adjusted to avoid raggedy rub from the Kellys.

I don't need lift/spacers/wheels/ as I like what I got now.

Good luck on your search.

May i please have some pics, just wondering how the stock rims would look in a setup like that

Did you notice any fuel increase after changing to wider tires ?
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:35 PM   #11
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re: MPG: Despite my own very conservative driving style, and the same circumference as the OEM tires, I lost nearly 1.5 mpg overall average, for reasons still undetermined. GPS tells me I've got 18.3 overall average in the last 50 operating hours.

RE: handling/ride
I delayed proper shocks until around 15000 miles ago. Mistake. I'm now a Rancho 9000 fan. /a true upgrade for sure.

The gifted free Rubi take-offs proved to be unsatisfactory enough after 5000 miles I was ready to put the OEM Sahara used shocks back on.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:37 PM   #12
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I don't have access to image host sites for posting photos.

MPG decreased, perhaps due to extra weight(?) of the 10 ply vs 2 ply Duelers.
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If you stay with the stock 18" wheels as JeeperJake and I have, the 275/65-18 is a great tire upgrade. It is however wider and not really a highway tire size as it should get less fuel mileage than the stock 255's.

Discount Tire Direct has product from $141 up to almost $300 per tire. The non LT rated Cooper AT3 is a highly regarded tire that should give better highway performance than some of the other more aggressive AT's.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:51 PM   #14
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Ty very much for the help
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Ok.

I'm not a professional race car driver. But at one point, I did play one on the weekends. I auto crossed in a couple different circuits and I went through a LOT of tires. Usually two new sets a race. Now, granted I had tech guys that handled all of the performance specs and real technical stuff, but I still had to be able to convey how each set handled in the time trials.

If your wanting a straight up highway tire here's my suggestion.

Go with a small rim. I ran 15" rims on the track for a reason. It may be ugly, but it let's you put more rubber on the road.

The wider the tire, the more dry stability you are going to have, but at the same time, the less wet stability your going to get. (Depending on what psi you run them at.). To me, wider front tires gave a BUNCH of oversteer. So I always ran staggered front and rear.

The taller the sidewall, the more sponge you'll have coming out of the corner. The lower profile you have, the harsher ride you are going to have.


So here is my suggestion, and this is based ENTIRELY on the assumption that this vehicle will ony ever see pavement.

1: for money sake, keep your stock wheels. 18s aren't ideal for ride comfort and fuel effeciency. But it would be better than buying new ones.

2: stagger them. Go with narrower tires in the front. This will improve your handling and increase your fuel effeciency.

3: don't get too much sidewall, but don't get too low pro either, and try your best to match the width of the tire to the width of the rim. I think I wouldn't go over a 6" sidewall. And if the wheel width is 9", you want to keep close to that width.


So that leaves us with a 245/55/18 up front and a 265/55/18 in the rear. The rear size will be 1/5th of an inch taller, but it shouldn't be enough to freak out your traction control. The rear will be 20mm wider (almost an inch) than the front.

As for the brand, I was sponsored by falken, so falken was all I ran. But whatever tire you get make sure it's a highway tire and not an all terrain or anything else.



I'll get flamed for this post, but there it is.

Will it look stupid? Yes. Will it handle and ride like a dream? You bet. It will also give you excellent mileage.

But this post was for information. Not to judge or tell you that a different vehicle may have been a better fit for your needs. You asked about highway tires, and I spit out what I knew. You can apply it as is, or find a mid point between what would work good, and what looks good.

Good luck.
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The stock non-Rubicon Wrangler tires in all sizes are basically the optimum of highway tires for this vehicle. The steering will ALWAYS be darty and "unstable". It is the nature of the vehicle construction. This IS NOT a highway vehicle. That is why every single other SUV on the market has an independent front suspension.

Wider tires will wander more than the stockers. Taller tires will also reduce MPG. Mud tires will make both of those even worse. No all terrain tire will match the stock "highway all seasons" on asphalt. Jeep acknowledges that 80% of their customers are street-only, that is why the Wrangler comes pussified in all but the Rubicon trims.

Good luck making it any easier. Should have bought a Cherokee.
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I changed from 255-75-17 wrangler sra's to Micheline 265-65-17 on my DD 2 door .
Handling , ride , and acceleration are much improved. My offroading will be limited to a few times a year on the beach. These will be fine for that.

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