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Old 01-24-2013, 12:40 PM   #1
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Best ways to customise cargo area to individual requirements

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I'm hoping someone can help me with a little problem. (I should mention that I'm a newbie [and not a very bright one at that] so I'm not even sure that I'm in the right forum ... but I think a 'Wrangler JK' includes 2010 models.) So, my Wrangler is a 'CRD Sport Unlimited' - 4 door, automatic, hardtop - if that helps? And it's a 'beauty'

I just have one little problem - which is my dog and her gnashers (and her 'penchant' for eating the seatbelts in the cargo area.)

(She used to do this with my last Wrangler and in the end I removed the back seats so the car was 'legal' as I didn't use them for passengers but this time around, I really need the rear seats - and the seatbelts.)

I've checked online and all the pet barriers seem to leave the seatbelts exposed. Does anyone have experience with 'cargo nets' for example? Could I strap these in such a way that the seatbelts weren't exposed? (I do realise she could chew the nets, but I have a cunning plan to stop that happening if I can just figure out a way to somehow block the access to the seatbelts from the cargo area in the first instance.)

Cheers and thanks - any suggestions appreciated!

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Old 01-24-2013, 12:57 PM   #2
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Hotsauce seemed to work marginally with my dog eating the fence to escape. Passengers may take offense, lol

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:15 PM   #3
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A harness with a short leash hooked to one of the tie downs
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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Nah - she's a Labrador (she'll eat anything - hot sauce and leashes included!) Seriously, I tried the whole harness route, but her average was a harness a day. The back of the Wrangler is perfect for her - except the seatbelt issue. If I can block that, I think I'm in with a chance
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I wish I was there to show you how to train a dog not to chew on specific items. Have you watched any videos on the subject? It's not difficult -- even with stubborn mutts -- but, it will likely require you to remove one of the seatbelts (or find/buy a spare) for training purposes.

That said, I really have no clue how to hide the seatbelts completely... I'll have to think on that a bit.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:36 PM   #6
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Ha ha, I knew dog-training was going to crop up here somewhere ... I wish you were here too to show me how to train this particular dog (If it wasn't for her one second memory, it'd be a breeze!) I've tried everything (dog training included but nobody as yet has an answer - not even the vet who thinks the 'chewing is healthy' - just not for my bank balance it would seem.) *big sigh*
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:54 PM   #7
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Haha. I've been there, but not with my vehicles. Took just over three years, three different trainers other than my wife and I. I even brought my two boxers to the same place cook county sheriffs dogs go. 100+ pound male was way more stubborn than the female. I'm not sure if I finally have him trained or he grew out of it. Knock on wood, I have two 5 year old boxers that haven't chewed a wallet, furniture, or clothes in a couple of years now.

I haven't seen a barrier that blocks dogs from seat belts. Maybe a DIY mod. Or one of those cheap stuffed animals that squeak. Every time the dog is back there she can shred that instead.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:54 PM   #8
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How about a really long roll of newspaper? I kid, I kid... I'm glad my big buffoon doesn't wish to eat seatbelts... he could probably pack a couple in one sitting.

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no problems with my dogs eating it but i have an idea.
make a cover that goes all the way round the roll bar.
say a piece of canvas wrapped around the bar with a zipper. your seatbelts wont work freely but it might deter. and at the same time put lots of toys in the back of the jeep. stuff thats easier to get to than the roll bar.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:15 PM   #10
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Why not just undo them when the dog is back there if they aren't needed. Its usually just one or two bolts.
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one or two pain in the arse bolts.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:27 PM   #12
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I have smiled guys so thank you for the chuckles!! The DIY rollbar option seems like the way to go - or better still ... find someone who can make something for me (I'm just lazy and had hoped cargo nets or similar might have the same effect!) I wish toys would work but she does this out of some kind of 'defiance' - it's well weird - I can drive with them for hours sometimes and there's no problem (there's more than one dog, but it's only the one who is destructive). Other times - 30 seconds is all it takes to wipe out a seatbelt - just depends on her mood I guess the little madam!!
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try bungie cords. strap it to the roll bar tight.
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:30 PM   #14
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And yeah, I agree with you @lee indy - pain in the arse bolts!! There's no way I can be doing with that kind of messing about every day - your roll bar idea is definitely the way forward (now I just need to find someone who can make it for me )
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Good thinking - I even have bungie cords so this would definitely be a cunning plan temporarily though I'm liking your idea of a special cover (I think as long as there was some 'give' in it, there would be no reason why the seatbelts wouldn't work properly even with it on) - Thanks for that - really appreciate it!!
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I work with dogs for a living and see this kind of stuff a lot. It sounds like she might be getting nervous in the car and that's why she's chewing, so tying the seat belt will most likely cause her to start chewing something else. Especially if she has a lot of energy built up as well. I'd say just throw the ball or something with her for 5-10 minutes before putting her in the Jeep just to make sure she got some of her energy out.
Another thing you could do is when you put her back there, give her a Kong, fill it with food and put peanut butter over the open end, then freeze it. So when she's in there with you she will focus on chewing that instead of the seat belt or anything else she can get at.

Lee's idea was good too, if the seatbelts are out of the way she will focus her attention elsewhere which means you are able to distract her and have her do what you want.

I have a lab of my own who will eat just about anything within reach of his mouth, so I know exactly how you feel..
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A Kong with food and peanut butter is like crack for dogs, so I agree 100% with Connor's suggestion to preoccupy the pup with said crack!
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Piece of PVC pipe as a surround? Slit it down the side lengthwise?
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Connor - it sounds like you know my dog very well ha ha - she has a silly amount of energy - completely hyper most of the time and what you say makes total sense - the 'chewing thing' tends to happen when we get in the car to go walkies (and hence why long distances aren't often a problem - she's not 'gagging at the bit' so to speak.) I'm loving the kong idea - we have plenty of them kicking about (plus peanut butter) and I think the roll bar cover idea is genius (I'm already on the case and have left a message for a friend whose pretty good with the old needle and thread - I sadly am useless!!) Thanks guys - I really appreciate all your ideas!!
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If the dog chewing through seatbelts and potentially a cargo net type barrier I would probably invest the money in as large a kennel as would fit in the back and not buy the barrier.
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If the dog chewing through seatbelts and potentially a cargo net type barrier I would probably invest the money in as large a kennel as would fit in the back and not buy the barrier.
While that is probably safest for the dog incase of an accident, it may not work in this case. Because if the dog is getting nervous and chewing on the seatbelt, and you put her in a crate, she may feel more confined and chew on the crate. That can make her break teeth, or choke on pieces of plastic/metal. One of my rescues is like that and when I adopted him he had cuts on his face from chewing at the bars and multiple broken teeth.

This could be very good if you have the type of dog who is comforted in a crate, and is actually the safest way to travel in a vehicle, especially if its strapped/bolted down incase of roll overs.

To the OP: you know the dog best so if she is the type that likes a crate this could be very useful. You should try and get her to be as calm as possible. Maybe even let her just sit in the back of the Jeep sometime but don't go anywhere. Just have the engine running and stay in the driveway, just to desensitize her. Then gradually do more. And lots of reward and praise! Good luck
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Maybe something like this would help: JK 4DR Warrior Pet Divider
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maybe try a muzzle just when you leave her in the car alone. Till she gets the hint.
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Call Safari straps. Have them make you a strap or two with one of their metal buckles. They sell their safari straps seperate- not those. The same straps as on their cargo net. With a metal buckle not plastic. Wrap around the roll bar and seat belt. The metal buckles will let you pull it very tight so she can't get her teeth around the belt. Give the folks at Safari a little time to get back to you- but they will and are willing to make one-offs.
I also agree with the prior poster- crate training can do wonders and may be a great idea. Safe for travel and calming for the dog if you make your crate a "happy place". Never used as a punishment.
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How about a dog solution - if you can't block all the chewables, then block the dog instead.
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Good thinking - I even have bungie cords so this would definitely be a cunning plan temporarily though I'm liking your idea of a special cover (I think as long as there was some 'give' in it, there would be no reason why the seatbelts wouldn't work properly even with it on) - Thanks for that - really appreciate it!!
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I'm surprised no one has suggested the Mitt Romney approach. Put the pup on the roof.
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A friend of mine- normally an intelligent guy- picked up his 2 dogs from the groomer one day. They were still a little wet and he wasn't more than 5 minutes from home. Quick drive, wet dogs- what to do? So he put them in the trunk. Now- this was a Mini-suv/wagon thing so a tall type trunk- but still a trunk. Wouldn't you know someone at the pet store saw this and called the police- who pulled him over. So not only was he stupid- he had to explain his stupidity to a cop. Poor Mitt- his stupidity came up 20 years later and in the national news. LOL.
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Thanks for all your suggestions guys - really appreciate it. I'm going with the special cover idea - I think the problem is that the belts kind of 'dangle' and catch her eye. I did a test today and wrapped towels around the rollbar and belts and she wasn't even slightly interested in getting to the belts so I reckon the cover idea will work whilst still allowing the belts to be used (fingers crossed it will anyway!) She was dead funny as it goes - just sat there looking almost disappointed that there was 'no trouble to be had'

I did also wonder about those Safari straps and had emailed them funnily enough. And the cage idea's a great one and in theory, the easiest solution (she loves her cage) ... but, there's another Lab to consider (who has Spondylosis so needs to 'sprawl' rather than 'curl up' and is very wary and sensitive about being 'sat on' by her thug of a sister - so a cage would be too restrictive for her.)

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