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Old 10-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #1
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Exclamation Big ebay rear bumper/tire carrier review>> LOTS OF PICS

So I mentioned I was going to buy a Ebay rear bumper/carrier. At $475 Shipped I figure it was worth a shot. I was pondering a Teraflex hinge, but I wanted protection, looks, and carrier jerry cans and other accessories in the future.

I was trying to stay under $500, so I gave the ebay bumper a chance.

Ok, First..this is not, I repeat NOT E-autogrilles bumper. This is from Truck and Winch out of Cali. Yes they look the same, but the way the handle latches is different and that is all I can tell as of now.

This bumper was a BID bumper and with no one bidding, I got it for $475 shipped to the house.
Ordered Tues 10/8
Shipped Weds 10/9
Received Mon 10/14......That is from Cali to St louis

THE GOOD
Its beefy
The D-ring brackets are support welded on the inside
Comes with 2 3/4" 4T D rings
All the Hardware was correct
It operates smoothly
Does not sag when open. So no "lifting it up to close"
95% of the Powder Coating was excellent. (pics will show the bad 5%)
Its $475
No Rattles, ( I added some reassurance, will show in pics)

THE BAD
Bracket on Driver side of the bumper, the holes didnt line up with the frame.
rail
The 5% of bad coating
The handle looks a little rough.. (See in pic)
The latch mechanism isnt like the E-Autogrill or Smittys.
The studs for the tire carrier are different threads ( easy fix)
No place for a 3rd brake light.

So onto pics....
Here is how it came, 2 separate boxes and the box with the bumper had plywood on the bottom of it. The boxes were a little beat up,but no damage to the parts





Not going to go into details on removing the rear bumper, but it literally takes 5 minutes with air tools. You will have to remove the factory trailer hitch, with has 4 long bolts going through the cross frame, no biggie.



Im using Rugged Ridge 3rd brake light extension..matches the bumper perfect



Now you take the "L" shaped bracket and slide it inside the frame, with the vertical part toward THE OUTSIDE.




Now the suck part...The driver side didn't line up


So after re-slotting the holes, I was able to get it all bolted up. You have 2 bolts on both sides of frame and 4 through the cross frame(were the hitch was), all holding it in place. It sits level at all angles



When you put on the tire carrier, there is a nylon bushing that goes on first, than the carrier, then a snap ring. Install grease fitting, grease and its good to go. *** Make sure to snug the carrier post bolts after it is LATCHED AND TIRE IS ON*** I swapped out the regular nuts and lock washers for nylon nuts on the post bolts, You will NOT have the 2 pieces of metal touching, there will be a gap


Now Im not sure on my bumper to body gap, it might be like this normally, it might not. I couldn't push it in any further and it could've been to having to modify the holes in the bracket and not doing to to the passenger side. But either was, it makes the carrier come in contact with the factory bump stops and makes for a snug, no rattle contact. Plus its even all the way around so Ill keep it that way. And it doesn't contact my CB antenna mount


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Here is the bad spots of the coating





The handle and latch setup...
Like i said the handle looks a little rough, but not a deal killer. What I did to take out some of the wiggle in the handle was, one layer of electrical tape on the shaft of the handle that is inside the housing and a O-ring between the handle itself and the housing. The tape around that pin makes no difference from experimenting with it


Now Latching...You push the carrier against that rubber bushing and it compresses it. Turn the handle and the pin travels up that vertical piece of steel (YELLOW) and into that recess detent. The rubber bushing then keeps pressure applied, keeping that pin from moving out. I added that white shim to see if I can make it lock in place harder, no difference in operation. I think with the rubber bushing on the handle and the bump stops on the tailgate pushing against the carrier, its fine. I even grabbed the carrier and tried pulling up on it in a jerk motion and it wouldn't budge with the handle engaged.


Im running a 35" on here and using the bottom holes for the tire, they claim up to a 37 will fit


Now heres the deal in the studs for the tire. They were tack welded to the plate and were NOT the same thread pitch as JK lugs...not a big deal, cause they supplied 3 lug nuts to mount with. But Im running special locking lugs from DTD which are 1/2" by 20. So I grounded the welds off, knocked out the old bolts and got 3 new ones in my tread size. Had a friend hit them real quick with the welder, spray bomb the plate again, and I was back in business


Now with the plate all the way back, I still have 5/8" gap from my tire contacting the carrier support. Im sure that is optimal for reduce vibration for off road, but for local Mall Crawling like me, it'll be ok for now.
I will be either taking material off the ends of the necks to push the tire in closer, or just add bump stops to the carrier frame to contact the tire





So overall... Im pleased with it. Is it perfect? Of course not. But I like to tinker with things and plus it will serve its purpose for our application...90% on road, 10% off road.

Just dont expect $1500 quality here

I will keep updates here of anything that comes up either good or bad. But as of now, its solid and no rattles at this time

Any questions or if more detailed pics of somethings.. let me know

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Nice review man looks great for the price!
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Very thorough review.
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Looks great! Appreciate the feedback.
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Looks good. Now move the bolt face logo.
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Looks good. Now move the bolt face logo.
I know!!

Time for a new one in a different location
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Looks good. Now move the bolt face logo.
You and OP seem ...... familiar....

Good writeup OP! Are you still happy with the bumper?
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Thanks for the review. I'm thinking about a rear bumper and this helps.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:07 PM   #11
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Sorry haven't checked in lately.....


But yes!!! Still happy with the bumper. No rattles, no hard to open. And if you tighten the bolts down just right on the carrier to bumper, it will even stay open when on a slight camber incline.
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VERY nice review, thanks! Another option to consider for sure.
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Thanks for the write up. been looking at the front and back set from this MFG...
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any sagging yet? im debating on getting this for my 37s and trying to guesset/brace it a bit for my 37... im just not settled on spending $800+ for a name brand lol
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I have the same bumper and am happy with it. Make sure it is adjusted correctly at the pivot point. I had mine too tight and the carrier would not rest correctly at the latch. Because of this, the latch wouldn't latch all the way, and on first test run it popped open. Adjusted it, and havent had a problem in three months.

OP, do you know what the little rubber bumper is for? I cant figure out where it goes...
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OP, do you know what the little rubber bumper is for? I cant figure out where it goes...
I called them and asked... They said it goes on the angle part of the part to bump against the tailgate. To keep it snug... IF NEEDED.

I left my factory rubber bumpers on, the ones used to push the spare against. Those are just in the right spot to keep pressure against the carrier and keep everything snug
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I bought the same rear bumper and carrier a few weeks ago. I cant get the oem bumpstops to line up with the carrier. So now the spare tire vibrates/shakes over bumps. What did you do to get the oem bumpstops to line up?
Btw i used the runber bumpstop that was supplied with the carrier and screwed in into the bottom of the carrier so the back of the inside tire would rest on it. It still did not help with the carrier vibration.
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Awesome write up and I like that alot!
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I bought the same rear bumper and carrier a few weeks ago. I cant get the oem bumpstops to line up with the carrier. So now the spare tire vibrates/shakes over bumps. What did you do to get the oem bumpstops to line up? Btw i used the runber bumpstop that was supplied with the carrier and screwed in into the bottom of the carrier so the back of the inside tire would rest on it. It still did not help with the carrier vibration.
Not sure what you are trying to get at with the bump stops lining up

Can you post pic?
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Got the set from DV8, so far so good
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I new to this and wanted to let you know the Bumper looks Awesome! Thanks for the post. I have been looking at getting the front and rear/tire carrier bumper from E-autogrilles bumper but was unsure of their product. I want to get a nice clean and reliable bumper and not one that I will have to replace in a few years or have something go wrong with it. I've looked for Truck and Winch on ebay and seems like I am unable to find them. Wound you have more details on them? Also you mentioned something about the handle latches different then E-autogrilles, would you know how theirs latches? Also would you know more about E-autogrilles bumpers? Are they good or should I keep looking? I thought about having a rear bumper built but after everything is said and done I looking at spending close to $450 and I'm thinking it might be better just to buy one. Any help on these questions would be great!
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I've got this same bumper and have had it for about 9 months now. My initial review was about the same as the OP's. Few minor details I didn't like but overall happy.

With almost a year on it, carrying a 35" tire there are some things I do not like. There is no way to grease the carrier hinge, which makes it difficult to open now. I'm going to tap the hinge cover and thread a grease zerk in. Maybe that will work.

the tire vibrates like crazy, still haven't found a fix for that.

there were not pre-drilled or cut holes for the trailer chains. I had to drill two holes beside the hitch and use shackels. Works for me.

The whole bumper sagged down, at an angle with the weight of the tire. I had to remove the tire, drill a hole through the frame mount of the bumper and the frame, and put a bolt through it. That keeps the bumper from tilting backwards.

the coating is holding up great. the spots that didn't have coating showed signs of rust. Problem solved now.

My latch came apart at one point, I caught it luckily before I lost the bolt. Put some thread locker on it and problem solved.

Minus the few querks I'm happy with the bumper. It beats paying twice the price for the name brand one. Mine is just as functional!
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You and OP seem ...... familiar.... Good writeup OP! Are you still happy with the bumper?
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