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Old 04-23-2014, 09:49 AM   #1
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Bikini vs. Bimini?

Hi guys.. So I'm tired of putting the soft top up and down already and the nice weather hasn't even arrived yet.. so I'm looking for a "summer top".

I have a '14 JKUR with a '12 soft top with cables.

My last JKUR was an '08 and had the door surrounds where the bikini would tuck in.

The new bikinis do not.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with Quadratec's Bimini/Windjammer/Tonno cover and how they like it?

It looks like it would seal up not too bad....?

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The windjammer is pretty worthless. If you are ambitious, purchase the two door wrap around version, and stretch it to make it work, just dont forget to undo your seatbelts in the back and run them through it. If you are curious about the new bikinis for your '14, I have an 07, with a '12 cable top, so I bought a new bikini. Very tight fit, and hardly any flapping, actually...little to none. I also have the tonno, and I would suggest finding one of those props for the front of it...water does pool up there. But again, I wouldnt waste money on the windjammer...pretty pointless.

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The windjammer is pretty worthless. If you are ambitious, purchase the two door wrap around version, and stretch it to make it work, just dont forget to undo your seatbelts in the back and run them through it. If you are curious about the new bikinis for your '14, I have an 07, with a '12 cable top, so I bought a new bikini. Very tight fit, and hardly any flapping, actually...little to none. I also have the tonno, and I would suggest finding one of those props for the front of it...water does pool up there. But again, I wouldnt waste money on the windjammer...pretty pointless.
Thanks for your response Mr.Dave.

By "new bikini" do you mean one with the cables?

Quadra combo includes a bimini that fits 07-14 that uses velcro straps around the roll bar. I'm wondering how much flapping/leakage one could expect with that setup with the door surrounds on...?

Anyone have that combo?

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Hi guys.. So I'm tired of putting the soft top up and down already and the nice weather hasn't even arrived yet.. so I'm looking for a "summer top".


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That part made me laugh.

I don't know if you park outside or not....but yeah....after a couple of times of dealing with it...I was like "F this...I'm not going to do this every morning and every night".

The top isn't hard, but dealing with the windows is a hassle.

Sunrider (with Spiderwebshad) and unzipped rear window for me.

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No prob, and yes the one with the cables. I had the velcro bikini before I got the cable one. First off, it requires no surrounds, and flaps like crazy in the wind. There is no seal at all with it. At least with the cable style bikini, it tightens just like the soft top over the surrounds. It is definitely worth the money for the cable bikini in my eyes.

This is your bet bet for no leaking, but theres reports of it leaking some.

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Thanks! That's exactly what I'm looking for..
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That part made me laugh.

I don't know if you park outside or not....but yeah....after a couple of times of dealing with it...I was like "F this...I'm not going to do this every morning and every night".

The top isn't hard, but dealing with the windows is a hassle.

Sunrider (with Spiderwebshad) and unzipped rear window for me.

Good luck with your search.
For me it's dealing with the bows and sunrider top when putting up and down. PITA.

I have a 4 year old so the chances of running completely topless won't happen often, so a bikini is the perfect solution.

I think I will run bikini (cabled) and tonno and make a temp solution with vinyl and velcro to keep water out the back when parked.

Thanks for the input guys!
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I bought the Bestop Trektop NX for my wife's JKU. When you take the side windows and rear window off, it looks exactly like a bikini top, except you get the benefits of door surrounds and a good seal. Added a tonneau cover and it looks exactly like the pic of the silver JKU above ^^^. Personally, if I had an OEM softop, I'd sell it in place of the frameless top and use my hard top for winter.
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I bought the Bestop Trektop NX for my wife's JKU. When you take the side windows and rear window off, it looks exactly like a bikini top, except you get the benefits of door surrounds and a good seal. Added a tonneau cover and it looks exactly like the pic of the silver JKU above ^^^. Personally, if I had an OEM softop, I'd sell it in place of the frameless top and use my hard top for winter.

I like the Trektops as well, however if I were to go that route I'd choose the rampage trail top so I'd have somewhere to throw the windows in the roof envelope.

I'm leaning towards the cable bikini and tonno combo simply because I think it will do what I want, at a more reasonable price than the Rampage top.
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I like the Trektops as well, however if I were to go that route I'd choose the rampage trail top so I'd have somewhere to throw the windows in the roof envelope.

I'm leaning towards the cable bikini and tonno combo simply because I think it will do what I want, at a more reasonable price than the Rampage top.
I thought about this too, but from everything I've read the trektop is superior to the rampage, so I'm wondering if you could fab something together to store your windows in the trektop similar to the rampage.
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I have this exact combo and can be run with or without door surrounds but always requires the tail gate bar for the tub cover.

The cable version is the best with door surrounds as it seals very tight with no flapping at 75MPH.

I tried it with no door surrounds and used the Velcro to wrap around the roll bars, surprising only a slight flap at 75MPH.

My issue with this method is that using the Velcro around the roll bars creates a gap between the doors and the top. Doors off looks good, but doors on...the gap bothers me.
The Window screen WORKS and blocks a lot of swirling wind for the rear passengers.
It can be put behind the driver seats with extender or rear seats without extender.
I am extremely happy with this setup.

I got a 1 week old Bestop combo Black Diamond with extender for sale cause I got a Trektop NX and without the windows it is the bikini top.

PM if interested. I will ship.
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Old 04-24-2014, 12:46 PM   #13
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You used the cable bikini without door surrounds? Ive always wondered about that...they give you bolts to use where your soft top mounts go in the back. I think they were getting at that you can use it without the surrounds. curious to see a picture of that....
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All gave really good information! I've been researching about this for a while debating on what to buy!

So the best option is a cable bikini and a tonneau cover for the back? What brands or where should I buy from? (Anyone have military discount? )
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So the cable bikini with door surround will keep water out on case of a freak summer storm? I know the back is open but if it keep water out from the front and side I might go for it. Maybe with a 2dr windjammer to cover the back area.

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What's the exact brand for this top? Is the one link a few posts up on page 1?

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So the cable bikini with door surround will keep water out on case of a freak summer storm? I know the back is open but if it keep water out from the front and side I might go for it. Maybe with a 2dr windjammer to cover the back area. ☞ Sent from here ☜
I live in ky a freak summer storm is like every other day -_-
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This looks good, maybe have to re-think the my search for a premium this year and go with that.
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I have a hard top, but LOVE the "safari top" look. Is there anything out there that will keep the water out of my vehicle? No door surrounds.
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Yes the water will stay out of the front. The fitment is very tight. Yes the back remains open, thats why i suggest a tonno with some sort of prop for when your jeep is sitting still (the tonno's collect water pretty easily). but when driving, no water gets in the back due to the movement. The brand of this is the bestop cable style bikini for 10+ model years. Again, mine is an 07, but I have the newer style top (cable) and obviously the newer style surrounds. If you have an older jeep with the older style soft tops, the cable bikini wont work, as far as I know. I am going to be running this come friday for the next couple days, I will try to snap some photos. Here are the links to the stuff I mentioned:

Cable Bikini: Bestop 52594-35 - Bestop® Cable-Style Safari Bikini® Top for 10-13 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec
Tonno: Bestop 90031-35 - Bestop Duster Deck™ Cover for 07-13 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door - Quadratec
Tonno Prop: Skid Row Offroad JP-0105 - Skid Row Offroad Tonno Prop™ for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

The tonno prop is not all that necessary right away, as the tonno is tight, but later on it will droop some.
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How long does it take to install and remove the top. Is it less than 10 minutes?


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I have the quadratec combo. I hardly ever use the windjammer. It is connected, just folded under. Mine isn't cabled, since I bought my jeep with a hardtop only, so I have no door surrounds. Not sure about the cabled version, but the rear part of the bikini fastens to straps connected to bolts that screw into the back of the roll bar. I had serious slack until I realized that there a multiple points under the bar cover. Moved the bolts down and tightened... Now minimal flapping.

This "summer" combo is far from waterproof. As mentioned previously, the tonneau collects water and, if there is any water on the top, it will dump between the gap at the rear doors onto the back seats.

In retrospect, I should have put the money towards an ORH combo top, but needed it for a beach run in August and couldn't wait.

Once you've set it up for the first time, it should be feasible to get it off or on within 10 minutes.
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Yeah it doesn't take long at all to undo. Only thing I don't like about it...the buckles. They do get pulled on pretty tight, and its only a matter of time before they go. but you undo the two header screws, undo the two clips that co around the sport bar, and undo the four straps in the back. I think it takes me 5 minutes.
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If I have a 2 door JK - and I get the safari top and the Tonno like the above - I am pretty much water tight if I put a prop under the tonno.

How long does it take to roll up the safari top for open air mororing - and do you store it in the back??

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If you get the full length for your two door, and the tonno, you have a better chance than us jku folks. I would look at the wrap around jammer for best results. Buying all that new is probably going to get pricey tho. I would like to see someone buy the two door cable bikini if they already have the newer style surrounds.
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If I have a hard top only do I have surrounds?

And how long does it take to roll up the safari top if you want to be open air only?

Thanks!
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Hardtop only = no surrounds. You'd have them with the dual option group, probably rolled up in the soft top or in a box. I had an old bikini that used nothing but a header bar and velcro straps...some of the best kite flying I've been a part of.
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