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Old 10-04-2011, 11:13 PM   #31
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Mopar HD springs $200?
Rubi takeoffs $600-$700 BF muds 32's/16 wheels.

= good lookin jeep
That works. Could also do BB, some 15" or 16" wheels, 33" Kelly Safaris, and sell his stock wheels. Probably net put at around $1000.

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So a budget boost is a better buy? I may have been looking at all the wrong stuff! Lol
"Better buy"? A good BB is will provide an affordable lift that looks and functions very well. Far and away the most popular way to lift. Is it going to compete with a high end lift from Rock Krawler? No. But do you need to?

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But since I have the money should I just do the suspension lift?
I'd say yes. If I could spend as much as I wanted on my jeep, I wouldn't be looking at BBs.

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That works. Could also do BB, some 15" or 16" wheels, 33" Kelly Safaris, and sell his stock wheels. Probably net put at around $1000.

"Better buy"? A good BB is will provide an affordable lift that looks and functions very well. Far and away the most popular way to lift. Is it going to compete with a high end lift from Rock Krawler? No. But do you need to?
Idk, that's my issue Haha. This is why I've been putting off my lift. Every time I think I've decided I learn something else. Lol
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I'd say yes. If I could spend as much ad I wanted on my jeep, I wouldn't be looking at BBs.
Suggestions on brands? I mean I don't have a buttload of money but I do wanna do it right.
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Suggestions on brands? I mean I don't have a buttload of money but I do wanna do it right.
For BBs or suspension lifts?

BBs are in general all very similar, though TeraFlex, AEV, and the Rubicon Express BBs all review well. For basic suspension lifts (ie, not long arms etc) I've heard good things about TeraFlex, Old Man Emu, and Rock Krawler's entry level kit.

There are zillions of choices though.
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OME is always a nice option.. Teraflex is pretty popular for those on a budget with a JK.
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For BBs or suspension lifts?

BBs are in general all very similar, though TeraFlex, AEV, and the Rubicon Express BBs all review well. For basic suspension lifts (ie, not long arms etc) I've heard good things about TeraFlex, Old Man Emu, and Rock Krawler's entry level kit.

There are zillions of choices though.
It'll def be a suspension
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But since I have the money should I just do the suspension lift?
yes, do ther suspension lift, in the long run you will be happier
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OME is always a nice option.. Teraflex is pretty popular for those on a budget with a JK.
that's what a was looking at. Their 2.5'
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yes, do ther suspension lift, in the long run you will be happier
Suspension it is!
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Suggestions on brands? I mean I don't have a buttload of money but I do wanna do it right.
Dpgoffroad offers OME Suspension lifts from 720 bucks to 2120 dollars.. Something to look into IMO.. dpgoffroad.com | Product Categories Archive | JK Wrangler Kits
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Dpgoffroad offers OME Suspension lifts from 720 bucks to 2120 dollars.. Something to look into IMO.. dpgoffroad.com | Product Categories Archive | JK Wrangler Kits
I can take a look! Thanks!
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It took me a few years to put on first lift (03 sport). Thinking I needed lots of clearance I wasn't sure at first. I ended up going with a 2" budget lift - just new shocks bump stops and coil spacers. Then increased the tires 1". Also put on quick disconnects. Total spent was approx $900. I installed everything myself saving money but learning so much in the process. Due to the low high in extra lift I did not need to do any adjustments to my driveline. I was most worried about that. So in summary learn before you do. Talking about brands and height is pointless unless you know what you can afford and willing to get into.
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It took me a few years to put on first lift (03 sport). Thinking I needed lots of clearance I wasn't sure at first. I ended up going with a 2" budget lift - just new shocks bump stops and coil spacers. Then increased the tires 1". Also put on quick disconnects. Total spent was approx $900. I installed everything myself saving money but learning so much in the process. Due to the low high in extra lift I did not need to do any adjustments to my driveline. I was most worried about that. So in summary learn before you do. Talking about brands and height is pointless unless you know what you can afford and willing to get into.
I reeeeeeeeally wanna do it myself but I don't know much about that stuff
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I reeeeeeeeally wanna do it myself but I don't know much about that stuff
i like to hear that, some one willing to do the work themselves.
if you have never done work like that it can get pretty involved. and you need all the right tools. may i suggest you find a local jeep club, join, befriend the best mechanic in the group and have him\her help you your first time around,,, we all start at the bottom.
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dude, ask me an algebra question and I'll sound like a retard, and I can't tell you what brand of lift is good for what or how each compares, but I been wheeling for 25 years, and I've built most of my mods in my home garage with fairly basic tools...

body lift goes between the frame and the body, it consists of 8-20 poly spacers and longer bolts. it causes issues with stick shifts, steering, and all sorts of controls lining up, which is the main reason people will tell you not to go over 2 inches (you CAN, it's just really not worth the effort). It's generally fairly cheap (JK's are an exception to that, more later) but the only thing you gain from it is that your jeep will look taller and you will be able to run bigger tires.

a suspension lift raises your frame higher up off the axles. it gives you more clearance between the axles (called "breakover") and it has a LOT less issues with everything lining up, because most of the stuff connected to your axles (brake lines, tie rod, drag link, etc.) is designed to move as your axle flexes up and down, so you basically just make it all longer and you're good...(that is WAY over simplified, but I'm trying to keep it simple). with a suspension lift you gain breakover, your jeep looks taller, and you can run bigger tires.

On a JK, the cheapest lift is a "budget boost" "BB" "puck" coil spacer lift... it's a type of suspension lift that consists of 1-2" spacers that sit on top of your coil springs, offsetting them lower without the expense of longer coils. it's technically a suspension lift, but in a "cheating" sort of way.

coil spacers get you up to 2" of lift for $200-500 (depending on the spacers you use, the shop that installs em, etc...), body lift gets you up to 2" of lift for a tad more than that. a "real" suspension lift can go 2" without too much trouble, 4" with a moderate amount of trouble, and if you're a glutton for punishment and like dealing with difficult geometry type problems, then it can go well past that...

the best type of lift is new tires. every two inches larger in tire size you go nets you an inch of lift. tire lift gives you more clearance at the differential, more breakover, better approach and departure angles, and a larger tread patch, especially if you air down the tires. bigger tires are the most functional lift you can add, and generally the most expensive. they also rob power and lower your gas mileage. I'm at 33" on my 2010 JKU sport, and I absolutely won't go any larger without getting my axles regeared. a JK will clear 33" inch tires without any lift at all on the street, off road they might rub depending on how much you get into it. better to run em with a 2" lift.

if you aren't planning to offroad it at all, and you don't care about gas mileage, and you just want it to look "big", you can combine a 2" coil spacer lift and a 2" body lift to get a total of 4" of lift, and stuff 35" tires under it (all three can be done separately for cash flow reasons). it will look really big and tough, but it will get horribly bad gas mileage, it will take off from a red light like your grandma is driving, it will do well off road as long as it's "nothing crazy" (any jeep does really... my DJ-5 is a 2WD jeep with a very old 232 inline 6 with 400k+ miles on it and it does well off road) and it likely won't get up past around 70MPH or so without changing some gears out and spending a lot of money.

that's kinda the basics... hopefully it raises a lot of questions for you and you can surf the forums to fill in the blanks and get you going in the right direction. I wouldn't expect a lot of "just for looks" type advice in this particular forum, and it's the only one I really hang out in, so I can't point ya somewhere better, but hopefully you find what you're looking for...
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i like to hear that, some one willing to do the work themselves.
if you have never done work like that it can get pretty involved. and you need all the right tools. may i suggest you find a local jeep club, join, befriend the best mechanic in the group and have him\her help you your first time around,,, we all start at the bottom.
I wanna do it cuz god forbid something gets messed up on the trail or something I wanna be able to identify and fix the problem. I loathe women who are all 'Omg! Idk what to do lemme call AAA!' *shakes head*
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I wanna do it cuz god forbid something gets messed up on the trail or something I wanna be able to identify and fix the problem. I loathe women who are all 'Omg! Idk what to do lemme call AAA!' *shakes head*
you sound like a very smart woman, hats off to you,, like i said find somebody willing to show you not do ti for you,,, if i lived closer i would have you do all the work while i drank coffee and smoked kools,, i would tell you what not to do and why, i could also explain what you were doing and why.

doing a job and understanding what you did are 2 different things.
31 years as a mechanic and i saw way to many mechanics under me just replace broken parts and not find out why they broke in the first place. waste of time and company money,,
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you sound like a very smart woman, hats off to you,, like i said find somebody willing to show you not do ti for you,,, if i lived closer i would have you do all the work while i drank coffee and smoked kools,, i would tell you what not to do and why, i could also explain what you were doing and why.

doing a job and understanding what you did are 2 different things.
31 years as a mechanic and i saw way to many mechanics under me just replace broken parts and not find out why they broke in the first place. waste of time and company money,,
My ex boyfriend is a mechanic and were on decent terms, I may ask him to help.me out. Hopefully he's willing. Lol. I agree that people should take more tome and figure out why what went wrong went wrong. People need better problem solving skills rather than just 'oh, ill replace it' have fun replacing.it again when it breaks again. Ha
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problem solving skills are 90 % of being a mechanic, anyone can replace parts. i can see from aelwero post, that he is a smart mechanic and does his own fab work .. if we had guys like him at my old job, i might still have it and not be driving a limo.
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problem solving skills are 90 % of being a mechanic, anyone can replace parts. i can see from aelwero post, that he is a smart mechanic and does his own fab work .. if we had guys like him at my old job, i might still have it and not be driving a limo.
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Soooo on the topic of budget lifts......anyone know of the AEV 2" kit will clear 35's for mild use. I want to put my 35s on right away to sell the stock wheels and tires. But don't have the time or patience or cashflow to do a full lift and do it right. By the time it(jeep) comes in It will be snowing and I will be balls deep in work all winter. Figured I'd save the major undertaking for spring after I've gotten my tax return!
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Spend like another 2 or 3 hundred hours on this site then you will know most of what you need to about your jeep
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Soooo on the topic of budget lifts......anyone know of the AEV 2" kit will clear 35's for mild use. I want to put my 35s on right away to sell the stock wheels and tires. But don't have the time or patience or cashflow to do a full lift and do it right. By the time it(jeep) comes in It will be snowing and I will be balls deep in work all winter. Figured I'd save the major undertaking for spring after I've gotten my tax return!
generally you need twice the suspension per inch of tire above the axle. so your rubbing with a 2 inch lift on 35s would be like a stock on 33s. onroad you should be fine except maybe some spacing issues side to side rubbing at full lock, and if you disco'd I think you'd rub some, like mentioned above with a stocker on 33^

So yes, it should work. you can always through a small leveling spacer on if you need it. cheap.
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generally you need twice the suspension per inch of tire above the axle. so your rubbing with a 2 inch lift on 35s would be like a stock on 33s. onroad you should be fine except maybe some spacing issues side to side rubbing at full lock, and if you disco'd I think you'd rub some, like mentioned above with a stocker on 33^

So yes, it should work. you can always through a small leveling spacer on if you need it. cheap.
Yeah it'll only be to get through winter and I don't see myself doing anything involving serious articulation until spring gets here anyway! Just looking to be.able to take the stock wheels/tires off to unload em. Jeep won't be in until the end of October makes me sad. Should have picked another color I guess lol.
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Yeah it'll only be to get through winter and I don't see myself doing anything involving serious articulation until spring gets here anyway! Just looking to be.able to take the stock wheels/tires off to unload em. Jeep won't be in until the end of October makes me sad. Should have picked another color I guess lol.

lol stop complaining you have a brand new wrangler, MY LORD yours will be new when the other 12s will already be tainted. fresh blood.
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Soooo on the topic of budget lifts......anyone know of the AEV 2" kit will clear 35's for mild use. I want to put my 35s on right away to sell the stock wheels and tires. But don't have the time or patience or cashflow to do a full lift and do it right. By the time it(jeep) comes in It will be snowing and I will be balls deep in work all winter. Figured I'd save the major undertaking for spring after I've gotten my tax return!
^ I just installed this 2" kit and AEV conservately said it is desgined for 33's / I think spacers and you might be ok. AEV is working on by the end of the year a 2.5" full suspension lift that will clear 35's

I only play on getting 33's with new wheels soon. The only other changes may be new shocks ( so I can remove the shock brackets ) and maybe -maybe- the RC-1.25" BL - still not sure about it.

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problem solving skills are 90 % of being a mechanic, anyone can replace parts. i can see from aelwero post, that he is a smart mechanic and does his own fab work .. if we had guys like him at my old job, i might still have it and not be driving a limo.
lol, I've never been a professional mechanic... I got no credentials...

I make things and I fix things... wallets, computers, chainmail, cars... wood, metal, plastic, whatever... I don't know why, but I just really grok how stuff works, even things like pocketwatches that look like a big jumble of craziness, I just get it.

I've built sheetmetal brakes, a sandcasting rig and forge, and various other oddities out of stuff lying around, but a professional shop mechanic I ain't...
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